2015 Draft Discussion

[Bucking Beads]

As petty as it can get between fans, no club is petty enough to compromise pick 1 just to spite another. That would be beyond absurd.

They might just take him because they need a Key Forward just as much as we do.

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

I reckon Weitering has Carlton written all over him. They'll recruit him and immediately describe him as a "potential captain". Which he probably is.

 

[whatboutbob]

I reckon Weitering has Carlton written all over him. They'll recruit him and immediately describe him as a "potential captain". Which he probably is.

You mean hand him the captaincy, don't you...?

 

[Lace Out]

SOS will be frustrated with just the one high pick compared to what he had building the Giants

 

[BuntonRules]

I also think that people have failed to factor in the influence of the Academies in producing more top end talent out of Qld and NSW. 5 of the top 20 look likely to be from Academies. Using Twomey's phantom draft of a couple of months ago, that potentially includes pick 3, 5, 9, 14 and 15. There has never been that sort of production out of the non-football states before. What that means is that the Vic/WA/SA clubs get better players with lower picks. The kid who might have been pick 12 before the Academies started delivering more talent is now available at pick 18.

If the non-football states previously produced about 1 elite junior player a year previously, and the Academies can lift that to 4 or 5 a year, then the quality of the drafts will inevitably improve.

Tell Eddie.

 

[BuntonRules]

If you read which way the wind is blowing, it seems pretty clear that the first two picks in the draft will belong to Carlton and Brisbane. We will get our man.

Lay it on the line, TBD. We are all sick of the burger, give us a Schache avatar.

 

[AFLQLD]

Tell Eddie.

Don't tell Eddie. That's how we got into this mess in the first place.

 

[Caiphus]

Lay it on the line, TBD. We are all sick of the burger, give us a Schache avatar.

No Heppel curse thank you very much.

 

[Roylion]

Nice story on Ben Keays on the AFL site today.

BEN Keays was already a Brisbane Lions supporter when he moved from Melbourne to Brisbane as a five-year-old in 2002. His dad grew up a Fitzroy fan, and Keays attended the 2001 Grand Final when the club clinched a breakthrough premiership win.

They went again to the Grand Final in 2004, when the Lions' run of three flags came to an end. "I was bawling my eyes out when we lost," Keays said. "That was a sad day."

I like him already. He might have to jump aboard my Josh Clayton bandwagon, if he's picked up by the Lions.

 

[BlackGun1]

Nice story on Ben Keays on the AFL site today.

BEN Keays was already a Brisbane Lions supporter when he moved from Melbourne to Brisbane as a five-year-old in 2002. His dad grew up a Fitzroy fan, and Keays attended the 2001 Grand Final when the club clinched a breakthrough premiership win.

They went again to the Grand Final in 2004, when the Lions' run of three flags came to an end. "I was bawling my eyes out when we lost," Keays said. "That was a sad day."

I like him already. He might have to jump aboard my Josh Clayton bandwagon, if he's picked up by the Lions.

I know his dad through my prior involvement at Morningside. He played Fitzroy under 19's and had a grandfather who played a couple of games for Fitzroy too. He and his family absolutely bled Fitzroy and his love carried through to the Brisbane Lions. As mad as a Lions family you'll ever meet. Pretty good story considering the retention issues and perceived cultural issues we're having at the moment.

 

[Albi_Mangler]

I notice the consensus here is that Schache is a lock for our first pick. Reading a bit on Francis this morning, wondering if we may opt to take him first with Hipwood available to us also.

http://www.theroar.com.au/2015/09/17/the-top-60-draft-prospects-of-2015/

 

[iBeng]

33. Wylie Buzza – Redland/Brisbane academy (Forward 198cm/97kgs)
This kid has instant cult figure status. Crowds will be going BZZZZZZZ every time he’s around the ball. He’s big, strong and has good hands. A genuine match-winner in the making.

 

[jackess]

I notice the consensus here is that Schache is a lock for our first pick. Reading a bit on Francis this morning, wondering if we may opt to take him first with Hipwood available to us also.

http://www.theroar.com.au/2015/09/17/the-top-60-draft-prospects-of-2015/

He's definitely a great option.

Clayton Oliver is one I like the sounds of if we have a spare pick available. Sounds like a well rounded midfielder to develop along with Keays, Robertson and Taylor.

 

[iBeng]

Also interesting:

Players who are training at AFL clubs

Adelaide: Stephen Tahana, Ryan Burton, Keiran Agius
Brisbane Lions: Ben Keays, Eric Hipwood*
Carlton: Tom Cole, Sam Skinner
Collingwood: Darcy Parish, Josh Schache
Essendon: Aidyn Johnson, Yestin Eades
Fremantle: Callum Ah Chee, Jordan Snadden
Geelong: Rhys Mathieson, Charlie Curnow
Gold Coast: Ben Crocker
Greater Western Sydney: Jacob Hopper
Hawthorn: Jake Sushames, James Parsons
Melbourne: Harley Balic, Liam Jeffs
North Melbourne: Dylan McDonald, Sam Weideman
Port Adelaide: Luke Partington, Aaron Francis, Tim Sullivan
Richmond: Nick O’Kearney, Gach Nyoun*
St Kilda: Jacob Weitering, Keiran Collins
Sydney Swans: Callum Mills, Josh Dunkley
West Coast: Kade Stewart, Greg Clark
Western Bulldogs: Darcy Tucker

 

[jackess]

33. Wylie Buzza – Redland/Brisbane academy (Forward 198cm/97kgs)
This kid has instant cult figure status. Crowds will be going BZZZZZZZ every time he’s around the ball. He’s big, strong and has good hands. A genuine match-winner in the making.

He's a curious prospect. Given he hasn't played in our reserves team and was only just added to the academy you think the club either doesn't rate him or are trying to keep him under wraps. You worry that it could come back to haunt us if we don't take him.

 

[Milk Steak]

I've seen very little of either apart from some highlight clips,but a part of me thinks Francis could end up being the better option between him and Schache. The club would never pass on Schache because it would be smashed for it,but I would more than happy if we picked up Francis. I'll be happy either way though.

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

He's definitely a great option.

Clayton Oliver is one I like the sounds of if we have a spare pick available. Sounds like a well rounded midfielder to develop along with Keays, Robertson and Taylor.

I have seen quite a bit of the Bushrangers this year and really like Clayton as a footballer. He wins his own ball, is clean with his disposal and, contrary to some opinions expressed, does have an outside game. Would be a very good pick up but with his late season form and winning of the Morrish Medal I suspect he will go before any spare picks we might have.
This pic is from the TAC cup semi final two weeks ago.

 

[Milk Steak]

I have seen quite a bit of the Bushrangers this year and really like Clayton as a footballer. He wins his own ball, is clean with his disposal and, contrary to some opinions expressed, does have an outside game. Would be a very good pick up but with his late season form and winning of the Morrish Medal I suspect he will go before any spare picks we might have.
This pic is from the TAC cup semi final two weeks ago.
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If you look closely you can see the ghost in the middle of the photo.

 

[theteamtobeat]

He's a curious prospect. Given he hasn't played in our reserves team and was only just added to the academy you think the club either doesn't rate him or are trying to keep him under wraps. You worry that it could come back to haunt us if we don't take him.

His over aged I think. So a 19 year old prospect. Maybe a late pick will do.

 

[theteamtobeat]

I have seen quite a bit of the Bushrangers this year and really like Clayton as a footballer. He wins his own ball, is clean with his disposal and, contrary to some opinions expressed, does have an outside game. Would be a very good pick up but with his late season form and winning of the Morrish Medal I suspect he will go before any spare picks we might have.
This pic is from the TAC cup semi final two weeks ago.
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[jackess]

I have seen quite a bit of the Bushrangers this year and really like Clayton as a footballer. He wins his own ball, is clean with his disposal and, contrary to some opinions expressed, does have an outside game. Would be a very good pick up but with his late season form and winning of the Morrish Medal I suspect he will go before any spare picks we might have.
This pic is from the TAC cup semi final two weeks ago.
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It will be interesting picking up 3 or 4 extra picks in the 20-30 range what we do and will probably give an indication on how we rate the draft and how we will be impacted by academy bidding. It may be quite useful to try and keep a pick in that range instead of looking to top up with someone like Bell or Suckling but if the academy bidding is likely to push our picks back into the late 30s we might be better off trading that pick.

 

[royboys4eva]

Ben Keays has a Fitzroy connection i love it.

 

[Toffee Lion]

If we walk away with Schache, Francis, Keays & Hipwood.

Well I don't think it could get much better then that, would be massive for us.

 

[SizeMatters]

I have seen quite a bit of the Bushrangers this year and really like Clayton as a footballer. He wins his own ball, is clean with his disposal and, contrary to some opinions expressed, does have an outside game. Would be a very good pick up but with his late season form and winning of the Morrish Medal I suspect he will go before any spare picks we might have.
This pic is from the TAC cup semi final two weeks ago.
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looks like a powerful unit but his right leg looks a bit weird... why is it all bent?

 

[iBeng]

With Wagner, Dennis and Wylie, as well as Chol I think it is and Rueben? Through rookie/late picks. We are going to have a fair few slots available in the seniors with our retirements and delists.