Analysis 2016 AFL Trade Week Thread

[SgtSchulz]

the two trades thrown up are:
HH for Gibbs
Pick 9 for Gibbs

...

Hartlett

 

[DazzaTys]

What do ppl think of this trade :

Trade 1

Port : Out - Hartlett | In - Pick 13 (Crows)

Crows : Out - Pick 13 | In - Gibbs

Carlton : Out - Gibbs | In - Hartlett

Trade 2

Port : Out - Pick 9 & Lobbe | In - Picks 15 (GWS), 16 (GWS) & Barrett

GWS : Out - Picks 15, 16 & Barrett | In - Pick 9 & Lobbe

____

Port in : Picks 13, 14 & 15 & Barrett
Port Out : Pick 9, Hartlett & Lobbe

I think you need to apply for the list managers job. I like this, please make it happen.

 

[rumoursofwinter]

What about

Gibbs - Crows
Hartlett - Carlton
Pick 13 - Port

throw a few other picks around and all are happy

I'd do it.

Shame Port doesn't deal with Adelaide because they are Liverpool or Manchester United.

 

[Byrons Firen]

Would not trade HH for Gibbs unless there are big personality/leadership conflicts going on that we're not aware of.

I don't want that smug sniping campaigner Gibbs at Alberton. It'd be like waking up next to Kelly O'Dwyer or Sophie Mirrabella.

 

[Alberton Proud]

From the AFL Trade Hub

If only Eddie knew how to pass

 

[Byrons Firen]

Gibbs at Port would be good just to watch his Dad have kittens.. no chance in hell & no chance we'll be helping the Crers get a deal done either in reality.

My bold
Bryce certainly hasn't fallen far from the tree. His old man was insufferable. Played in a team full of insufferables.

 

[raptalia]

That's a ridiculous trade

From whose perspective the Blues or the Crows?

A first plus a decent player is no more ridiculous than us paying a first and second round pick for Charlie Dixon. Gibbs is less than half way through a five year deal so Carlton have the upper hand just as Gold Coast did with us this time last year.

 

[Andre]

So we wouldn't be happy with pick 13 last week, but throw in a third club and suddenly a reasonable minority thinks it's ok?

I want Hartlett out, but not for trades that simultaneously give us an average pick AND our rival a desperately needed replacement mid for chump change. The mind boggles.

If people are going to screw over a club in fanciful trades at least don't make it Port.
Go something like:

Port - gain pick 5
Lose - Hartlett, O'Shea, Lobbe

Crows - gain Gibbs, O'Shea
Lose - B Crouch + 13

Carlton - Gain - B. Crouch, 13, Richmonds 2nd round pick
Lose Pick 5, Gibbs

Richmond - Gain Lobbe
lose - 2nd round pick

Unrealistic, but at least in our favour. Players we want out and a top pick. Now to solve world peace.

 

[Lagooner]

Somehow the 'dangers wife wears the pants', 'Soft wanting to be with family' type talk from last trade period as Dangerfield and wife moved back to be close to family won't get a big run if they land Gibbs.

I went over their for a quick read before and my Cognitive Dissonance Meter exploded.

At least Danger saw out his contract.

 

[RossFC]

From the AFL Trade Hub

If only Eddie knew how to pass

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Menzel kicks the goal? He's an SANFL player.

 

[raptalia]

I don't want that smug sniping campaigner Gibbs at Alberton. It'd be like waking up next to Kelly O'Dwyer or Sophie Mirrabella.

We could not afford him anyway. Assuming he is not coming home for less, Gibbs would have to be on 500-550k per annum. His five year deal was reported as 'nearly 3 million' over five years.

 

[Lagooner]

From the AFL Trade Hub

If only Eddie knew how to pass

View attachment 298808

Meanwhile at Carlton...

Carlton CEO Steven Trigg reverts back to his paperbag strategy in order to keep budding superstars Sam Kerridge and Matt Wright at Princes Park.

Make them pay Blues, make them pay.

 

[Adz2332]

Im sick of this go home crap....
IF a player uses the go home thing, every state he can go to has 2 afl teams now or more in vic.
He chooses to go home, the club has the right to negotiate the best trad efor him from any of his home team states willing to pick up his current contract.
Hes not a free agent he shouldnt be able to choose which club in his home state he wants to play for

 

[Schulzenfest]

Hes not a free agent he shouldnt be able to choose which club in his home state he wants to play for

He's a human being and he should have the same right to choose his workplace as you or I do.

 

[DaTBird187]

What do ppl think of this trade :

Trade 1

Port : Out - Hartlett | In - Pick 13 (Crows)

Crows : Out - Pick 13 | In - Gibbs

Carlton : Out - Gibbs | In - Hartlett

Trade 2

Port : Out - Pick 9 & Lobbe | In - Picks 15 (GWS), 16 (GWS) & Barrett

GWS : Out - Picks 15, 16 & Barrett | In - Pick 9 & Lobbe

____

Port in : Picks 13, 15 & 16 & Barrett
Port Out : Pick 9, Hartlett & Lobbe

**** helping the Crows get this over the line.

 

[Adz2332]

He's a human being and he should have the same right to choose his workplace as you or I do.

what a crock. he wants to play football in a NATIONAL competition. Wants to get paid big money. Why have a draft anymore? as i want to play for Port and im a human i choose to go there?
Look at the NBA. they way it should work

 

[Byrons Firen]

Hes not a free agent he shouldnt be able to choose which club in his home state he wants to play for

I hear what your saying but section 92 of the constitution "restraint of trade" says otherwise.
When push comes to shove clubs roll over or else the whole draft falls apart.

 

[ScooterBrother]

Just a quick guide for people looking to evaluate draft picks:

Pick Range - Average Games
1 to 10 - 111.54
10 to 20 - 94.72
20 to 30 - 71.88
30 to 40 - 79.89
40 to 50 - 72.47
50 to 60 - 59.17
60 to 70 - 57.17
70 to 80 - 54.57
80 Plus - 76.20*

* Probably explained by recycled players

 

[Adz2332]

I hear what your saying but section 92 of the constitution "restraint of trade" says otherwise.
When push comes to shove clubs roll over or else the whole draft falls apart.

Clubs have zero power and its only getting worse

Harts is contracted, we wont to trade him wont go....
Harts says he wants to go to freo is contracted we would just about have to trade him to freo and no one else... crazy

 

[Adz2332]

Just a quick guide for people looking to evaluate draft picks:

Pick Range - Average Games
1 to 10 - 111.54
10 to 20 - 94.72
20 to 30 - 71.88
30 to 40 - 79.89
40 to 50 - 72.47
50 to 60 - 59.17
60 to 70 - 57.17
70 to 80 - 54.57
80 Plus - 76.20*

* Probably explained by recycled players

Interesting... so from pick 20 to 50 is about the same....

 

[ScooterBrother]

Interesting... so from pick 20 to 50 is about the same....

Strangely, you're more likely to get a player with picks 40-50 than 20-30.

I would suggest that in the 20-30 range falls the "talented with high upside but flawed" projects which don't always work out.

 

[mic59]

He's a human being and he should have the same right to choose his workplace as you or I do.

When you or I choose our workplace we don't sign a piece of paper holding them to pay us X amount of dollars for X years. You shouldn't be able to agree to one thing that suits you and then just change your mind. But if the player wants to break the contact then he can expect that to only be done under the terms set by the club AND if they agree to him doing so.

 

[Waspy79]

Just a quick guide for people looking to evaluate draft picks:

Pick Range - Average Games
1 to 10 - 111.54
10 to 20 - 94.72
20 to 30 - 71.88
30 to 40 - 79.89
40 to 50 - 72.47
50 to 60 - 59.17
60 to 70 - 57.17
70 to 80 - 54.57
80 Plus - 76.20*

* Probably explained by recycled players

Demonstrates perfectly how over rated draft picks are

 

[Andre]

He's a human being and he should have the same right to choose his workplace as you or I do.

Yep, so like any other company with a number of offices (clubs), if head branch wants him elsewhere and he doesn't want to go he can always go to another company. Of course those (SANFL, WAFL) pay much less, but if lifestyle is paramount that's fully his choice.

 

[Andre]

lol why not... offer pick 9 make adelaide trump it

We've been squeezed enough on trades lately. Leave our precious bits left unassaulted.