2016 Draft discussion

[Balony_pony16]

Witherden and Berry would be good, but id want a more inside type to balance those two and ainsworth.

that's why I like Kobe Mutch. I recon he is well underrated and has a nice inside/outside game a bit in the style of Parish

 

[scoman]

Witherden and Berry would be good, but id want a more inside type to balance those two and ainsworth.

Yep it it fell that way I would think the club would try to add a more dominant midfield type. All three of Ainsworth, Witherden and Berry are thought of as types who may eventually move into the midfield. Perhaps someone like Drew, Clarke or Mutch with our pick 22.

 

[Slitherin9]

Surely we go one of these three McCluggage, Brodie, Taranto with our 3rd pick. I don't want to see the lions pick another kid under 180cm playing half/forward pocket. I want a big body midfielder, proven ball winner in and under. I will like the look of our team if we can add them with beams, rocky, zorko, robinson, bastinac, rich. We have the two guys to put forward pressure on with Christensen (when fit) and Taylor. We have Schache and Hipwood up front. We have frost and andrews down back locking down the big forward then we have mayes, cutler, paparone running off the half back starts looking alright. Need more midfield depth.

Hey Mick. I'm 100% with you here.
But it seems like Ainsworth is our guy based off quotes from Cal Twomey et al, and those tweets from Ainsworth pretty much confirm it for mine.
So I welcome Ben to our club and back him in to be the next Cyril
Now I just want some serious mids with at least 2 out of picks 16, 21, and 22!

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Wonder if someone very inside like Joe Atley might come into consideration with one of our 20s pick

 

[captainrich]

think we just need a few blokes who are good kicks of the footy, have enough depth for inside midfielders

jansen still has development left enough to be that big midfielder in the middle along with mathieson and keays

 

[M Malice]

really love the sound of this young bloke, leadership and courage. draft range is stated as 12-25 so a very realistic chance of being available with one of our 3 picks in that range.


JARROD Berry felt he had a point to prove. After a season interrupted by injury issues, Berry hit this month's NAB AFL Draft Combine healthy and ready, and he didn't disappoint.

The value placed on combine performances differs from club to club, but there is no denying Berry didn't hurt his draft positioning with his display. The Vic Country draft hopeful was the best performed of the 80 players in attendance, winning the 3km time trial (9:46), being a joint winner of the beep test (level 15.1) and placing in the top 10 for the repeat sprints and agility tests.

It was a good end to a tough season for Berry, in which he entered with big expectations after a brilliant bottom-age season in 2015. Last year saw him claim All Australian honours as a member of Vic Country's championship-winning team and be named in the TAC Cup side of the year.

This season didn't feature as many highlights, but Berry is a professional, committed player who has weathered the injury setbacks and remains a highly rated choice.



Berry is as tough as they come. He isn't afraid of getting in harm's way to win the ball, and sometimes he could be accused of having too much courage. Late in the year he suffered a bruised kidney early in a game for North Ballarat but played another quarter with the injury, believing it to be just a bump. He spent a couple of days in hospital nursing the injury afterwards.

He matches that hardness with genuine athleticism. He proved that at the combine, and reminded people of his running capacity and competitiveness. His size makes for an interesting player, because at different stages throughout the year he was deployed across half-back, through the midfield and later in the year spent time for the Rebels closer to goal (including back-to-back three-goal performances). He averaged 17 disposals for the Rebels in eight games.

Berry's leadership is also an important part of his make-up. He captained the Rebels, Vic Country and the NAB AFL Academy this year, and was named the academy's Ben Mitchell medallist – an award voted on by his peers for who best displays the values of the academy.



Berry has had an unfortunate run with a range of injuries over the past two years, including shoulder, knee and kidney issues, so clubs will want to be confident in his durability to use an early selection on him.

When he's out there, a knock has been on his kicking. Recruiters have raised it with him and he's worked hard to lift his ball use, and he showed his improvement at the combine when he came equal third in the kicking test (he was also equal second in the clean hands test). And as much as his versatility is a good trait, it also means he hasn't settled into one position, so clubs are varied about where they see his best footy being played.



If Berry settles into a third tall defensive role, he could play in a similar manner to Sydney Swans backman Dane Rampe. Berry is about the same height as Rampe and has the same courage to fly back for the ball in the air and also provide some run out of the backline.



Berry started the year as one of the names floated by recruiters as being in the No.1 pick consideration. He's not there now, but seems likely to fit anywhere between 12-25, with plenty of interest from clubs in the mature prospect.



Character has become the buzzword in recruiting circles in recent years, and Berry has it in spades. He has been described by clubs as their "best kid" in the pool, and that goes a long way. His tough and uncompromising style on the field will give him a good chance of fitting in at the next level.

 

[M Malice]

here is Knightmares first PT for 2016, he has us taking Ainsworth, Witherden, Gallucci and Bolton. with the players he had as still available at our picks i would rather we went Ainsworth, Berry, Gallucci, Powell-Pepper.

http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/17897568/knightmare-first-2017-afl-phantom-draft

 

[ManeMan]

here is Knightmares first PT for 2016, he has us taking Ainsworth, Witherden, Gallucci and Bolton. with the players he had as still available at our picks i would rather we went Ainsworth, Berry, Gallucci, Powell-Pepper.

http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/17897568/knightmare-first-2017-afl-phantom-draft

Just read that. And I agree, I would rather we take Berry at 16. I do like the sound of Witherden though and wouldn't be too upset if we took him.

 

[Surly Boy]

All very interesting of course, but might wait for Emma Quayle, Twomey and Anderson to release their phantom drafts before getting too worried about who is going where....

 

[Cockliff38]

Gee the Draft Central haul would be an absolute gold mine for us. Not sure about taking BOTH Berry & Witherden, who are coming off injuries. High risk, high reward

 

[jasonrampage2010]

How does Ainsworth compare to former pick 3,small forward Jack Billings?

 

[Davemonkey]

I printed the first sentence on a piece of paper and took it to my local NAB.

They looked at me and gave an almost undetectable nod. Of course, that could have been a signal to security...

Funny, I took mine to Westpac and they charged me a $5 processing fee and sold me a new credit card.

 

[Hollow Knight]

I'm still recovering financially from Mark Robinson telling me to take it to the bank that Beams wouldn't be a Lion.

 

[dlanod]

Mutch is closest to a Rockliff style player. In the right spot at the right time, decent but pretty safe disposal. He won't cut you up on the outside but he can act as the glue in the middle like Rocky.

Of course the downside of this style of play is the Dalziell-Stiller axis, so there's some risk.

 

[SizeMatters]

Would rather Simpkin over Witherden from the phantoms that have been brought up recently. Works well with Schache and Ainsworth already.

 

[chopperduck]

Dont mind how knightmare has it falling for us. Like the balance. Ainsworth im confident will be a midfielder for us. I very much see him being like Zorko playing as a HF mid. TBH with his ability up forward it would be a waste to make him a full time mid. We still need some more options off HB and Witherden or Berry tick the boxes there. Gallucci as a genuine mid option and Bolton as some pace is very well rounded for us. Havent looked into Gallucci much so dont have any strong opinions either way (nor am i a draft expert). Would be happy with a Dylan Clark or similar.

Just feel as if this is a good draft for us to get a number of needs checked off. With picks 16 21 and 22 we should have 2 to 3 options for each of the needs, mid, hb rebounder or outside pace. Think what type gets picked at what pick then just comes down to best available.

 

[jjami15]

All very interesting of course, but might wait for Emma Quayle, Twomey and Anderson to release their phantom drafts before getting too worried about who is going where....

Well they do kind of wait until the last minute and everyone has a fair idea of who goes where.

 

[deklares]

What's happened to Brandon Parfitt? everyone's gone quiet on him..

 

[POBT]

What is the advantage for us in bidding for Bowes?

 

[pulpdriver]

What is the advantage for us in bidding for Bowes?

Absolutely nothing as far as I can tell. Gold Coast won't let him go so they'll just have to use 4 instead of one of their later picks. All it does is screw them out of an earlier pick which they'd no doubt remember down the line when we have some quality academy kids.

 

[a mayes ing]

What is the advantage for us in bidding for Bowes?

keeping GC honest, doesn't really help us tho...

But tbh, l would rather not take the risk and just grab Ainsworth.

 

[M Malice]

What is the advantage for us in bidding for Bowes?

not an expert but i assume if we or anyone bids on Bowes before one of their picks 4, 6, 8 and 10 that means they have to use one of those picks to cover the points for Bowes meaning they can only pick up 3 and not 4 non academy guns leaving 1 extra in the pot for us further down the draft at 16, 21 and 22.

ideal would be if Bowes and Scheer were both bid on before pick 10, as long as Allison/Watson are not bid on before 22 we want as many academy players bid on as possible.

in saying all that i could be wrong.

 

[winged1]

What is the advantage for us in bidding for Bowes?

There is none other than to start a local war, I dont think we should and let one of the southern horde force their hand.

 

[jackess]

What is the advantage for us in bidding for Bowes?

We'd only do it if we rate him best available at that pick. It would also ensure they have to use a top 10 pick on him.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Yeah, I don't get the perception that we'll bid on Bowes. I was kind of getting the impression we didn't rate him as high as others.