Hot Topic 2016 DRAFT

[Beer n Skittles]

Well there is no way he is getting to Hawthorn, is he worth a bud at 25? Adelaides next pick is in the 40"s, it would really mess them.

He topped the clean hands test at the combine, which IMO is the most important. Better off picking one of the mids that tested well at 25 though

lean hands test (score out of a possible 30)
Ben Jarman (28)
Oliver Florent (28)
Ryan Garthwaite (28)
Callum Brown (27)
Jarrod Berry (27)
Will Hayward (27)
Patrick Lipinski (27)
Sam Powell-Pepper (27)
Jack Bowes (27)
Isaac Cumming (26)
Joe Atley (26)
Myles Poholke (26)
Jonty Scharenberg (26)
Harry Perryman (26)
Jack Maibaum (26)

 

[Faz 2000]

Brodie or Taranto look likely at 5. Like the write ups on these two! After that I've got NFI.

But I reserve the right to go off tap if we reach for a mature ager.

 

[DangerousD]

He topped the clean hands test at the combine, which IMO is the most important. Better off picking one of the mids that tested well at 25 though

lean hands test (score out of a possible 30)
Ben Jarman (28)
Oliver Florent (28)
Ryan Garthwaite (28)
Callum Brown (27)
Jarrod Berry (27)
Will Hayward (27)
Patrick Lipinski (27)
Sam Powell-Pepper (27)
Jack Bowes (27)
Isaac Cumming (26)
Joe Atley (26)
Myles Poholke (26)
Jonty Scharenberg (26)
Harry Perryman (26)
Jack Maibaum (26)

Berry"s name bear the top of another test, could he be a mid?

 

[Stefchook]

A few on here are rating Clarke as a possibility for a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Can't see it happening. From what I've seen his kicking is pretty average.

 

[Beer n Skittles]

Berry"s name bear the top of another test, could he be a mid?

Walker was always capable of playing midfield, but it wasn't his best position. I feel like Berry would be the same

 

[Golden Tonsils]

Well there is no way he is getting to Hawthorn, is he worth a bud at 25? Adelaides next pick is in the 40"s, it would really mess them.

Id love that simply to f**k with Adelaide

But on this occasion ill agree with Arrow but dont be surprised if he ends being a similar type to his old man

 

[CRIPPA9]

My updated wishlist:

5:Brodie
25:SPP/Venables
48: Drew/Clarke/Fisher/Kerr
63:Olango
66:Romensky/Ronke
RD: Kerbatieh/Bayok
PSD/DFA: Richards/Barrett/Grigg

Reckon Brodie, if available, should be taken with our first pick. Yes, he doesn't have the best kick, but his KE/HE numbers are down due to the level of pressure he is normally under when he disposes of the ball. There is no doubting his drive and mental toughness. I believe he is the perfect player for what we need at this stage of the rebuild. Later can come the class and outside types.

Really hope that SPP is there at 25, however I have my doubts. I rate him really highly and think he's made of the right stuff. Venables would also be a good acquisition if he's there. His knock is that he doesn't seem to get enough of the ball, but when he does, he certainly makes an influence.

At pick 48 we should go for midfielders who have slid. Drew would be my preferance there, but I'd be happy with Clarke or Fisher instead. I'm aware some people think Kerr will go second round, but if there is one KPP player I see sliding- It's him.

As for our later picks I'd like to see us pick up a project ruckman, potentially Tony Olango, and another midfielder who has slid. Haven't seen much of Romensky or Ronke, but both seem to have a bit to work with.


This is just my take, what are your thoughts?

 

[Golden Tonsils]

Walker was always capable of playing midfield, but it wasn't his best position. I feel like Berry would be the same

Just for context Berry came from a long way back due to injuries just to get to the combine so his fitness results from the combine will prove his mental strength.

As I've said before he screams future captain at AFL level if he gets over his injuries

 

[BobP]

My updated wishlist:

5:Brodie
25:SPP/Venables
48: Drew/Clarke/Fisher/Kerr
63:Olango
66:Romensky/Ronke
RD: Kerbatieh/Bayok
PSD/DFA: Richards/Barrett/Grigg

Reckon Brodie, if available, should be taken with our first pick. Yes, he doesn't have the best kick, but his KE/HE numbers are down due to the level of pressure he is normally under when he disposes of the ball. There is no doubting his drive and mental toughness. I believe he is the perfect player for what we need at this stage of the rebuild. Later can come the class and outside types.

Really hope that SPP is there at 25, however I have my doubts. I rate him really highly and think he's made of the right stuff. Venables would also be a good acquisition if he's there. His knock is that he doesn't seem to get enough of the ball, but when he does, he certainly makes an influence.

At pick 48 we should go for midfielders who have slid. Drew would be my preferance there, but I'd be happy with Clarke or Fisher instead. I'm aware some people think Kerr will go second round, but if there is one KPP player I see sliding- It's him.

As for our later picks I'd like to see us pick up a project ruckman, potentially Tony Olango, and another midfielder who has slid. Haven't seen much of Romensky or Ronke, but both seem to have a bit to work with.


This is just my take, what are your thoughts?

Agree with most of this, only thing I'd say is that we'd need a whole lot of luck to have those players slide.

In other words, I'd be ecstatic if our draft panned out like this.

Also, I don't rate Clarke or Kerr, like Drew and Fisher a lot though.

 

[Leon Black]

Ultimately I Trust Sos in whatever decision he makes, but I'm big on building a midfield with a core of tough inside mids. People are looking at Bont (and rightly so) as a player we should look to draft but I feel we need to build that tough inside core first. The dogs were the best contested side in the leauge and that allows Bont to play the way he does. That's why in my eyes it has to be Brodie, you could add all kinds of silk and runners to a core of Brodie and Cripps at the coal face. Hard and competitive mids wins flags, if Josh Kennedy had a little bit of help we would be looking at his game as one of the best individual pereformances we have see, those are the players I want. #insoswetrust

 

[bigdog43]

Is Fisher a chance to last until 48?

Love the look of him.

I wouldn't mind if we took him at 25, just looks a footballer.

 

[ParapMarkets]

Athlete, that has poor disposal skills by foot, especially over longer distances. I have others in front of him, 3rd rounder at best

I haven't watched anywhere near as much under 18's as I did last year, but watching him as an underaged player I thought he was going to be a top 5 selection, he looked all class. Obviously hasn't come on this year which isn't a good sign.

I'll have to watch a few of his games more closely but I still wouldn't mind him at our second pick. SOS rookie listed his brother, not much of an indicator I know, but family life/upbringing does play a part in recruitment so there is probably a tick there.

 

[Kramer1]

Can any draft watchers compare Brodie with other highly rated contested kids of past years? Thinking Ziebell, Cunnington, Vlastuin, Brayshaw and the like.

I do wonder about scope for improvement with these types.

 

[fnm_just a man]

I hope this makes sense but pure speed is overrated. It's all about speed of decision, speed of ball movement. Don't get me wrong you need players with genuine speed but to me they are the cherry on top. I look at the Hawks and as a group they really aren't overly quick. They have Smith, Hartung, Rioli and Duryea that offer them real pace but they are the last links in the chain. Without the smarts before that they are irrelevant.

I'm sorry, but you can't include Rioli in this context.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Can any draft watchers compare Brodie with other highly rated contested kids of past years? Thinking Ziebell, Cunnington, Vlastuin, Brayshaw and the like.

I do wonder about scope for improvement with these types.

Brodie is nothing like Ziebell, Cunington or Vlastuin

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[Sin City]

Can any draft watchers compare Brodie with other highly rated contested kids of past years? Thinking Ziebell, Cunnington, Vlastuin, Brayshaw and the like.

I do wonder about scope for improvement with these types.

I compare him to Kennedy. Really good contested ball winner and while he's not as creative as Cripps he is an accurate hand baller and has a lot of time when he has the ball. Real gut runner who drags his team over the line. There's been some very questionable assessments of him in this thread from people who haven't watched much of him.

 

[Blue and Silver]

I compare him to Kennedy. Really good contested ball winner and while he's not as creative as Cripps he is an accurate hand baller and has a lot of time when he has the ball. Real gut runner who drags his team over the line. There's been some very questionable assessments of him in this thread from people who haven't watched much of him.

I thought the most notable part of the footage I was watching with Brodie was how long each clip was. He makes multiple appearances in the same play frequently. People are talking about Taranto like Bartel, but Jimmy made a career out of doing the little things excellently and that's what I am seeing in Brodie, a top of the line workhorse.

 

[HARKER]

I compare him to Kennedy. Really good contested ball winner and while he's not as creative as Cripps he is an accurate hand baller and has a lot of time when he has the ball. Real gut runner who drags his team over the line. There's been some very questionable assessments of him in this thread from people who haven't watched much of him.

Kennedy was the guy I thought of also, although Cunnington did cross my mind.
It's funny that when some relative short-comings do prop up, that they can become magnified over time.
If I read the negative comments only, I'd think him to be more Barlow than Kennedy.

I'm still 50/50 on him and Taranto, but I have been on Taranto for some time.
I guess it will only be on draft night, after we take the #5, that I'll say; "That's the guy I wanted"


........that Setterfield fellow goes O.K. too. Maybe GWS will............no they won't.

 

[blue_trinity]

I compare him to Kennedy. Really good contested ball winner and while he's not as creative as Cripps he is an accurate hand baller and has a lot of time when he has the ball. Real gut runner who drags his team over the line. There's been some very questionable assessments of him in this thread from people who haven't watched much of him.

I agreee on Kennedy, in some aspects for sure. I feel he is more athletic/dynamic though.

To me, he reminds me most of Fyfe. Haven't seen anyone compare the two, but they really do share a lot of traits.

From the sounds of things he may also share a similar personality type too...

 

[Blue and Silver]

I agreee on Kennedy, in some aspects for sure. I feel he is more athletic/dynamic though.

To me, he reminds me most of Fyfe. Haven't seen anyone compare the two, but they really do share a lot of traits.

From the sounds of things he may also share a similar personality type too...

The hair?

 

[Dochearty]

With so many good players still available at pick #5, I have a feeling that SOS may have a surprise in store for the Carlton faithful.
We are only 22 games into our rebuild, with that in mind, I believe we will go for a player with big upside, not necessarily ready made.. ie Brodie.
I hope we bid on Setterfield!

 

[ESKIE]

I reckon Brodie will be gone prior our pick

 

[Azul]

'Upside'?
Please no, we have had plenty of those already

 

[ESKIE]

We do Azul...how about solid?

 

[Blue Doormat]

'Upside'?
Please no, we have had plenty of those already

Why can't SOS try and get both?
Surely at 5 someone will be both"ready" who also has upside.
If he thinks that is Brodie or someone else I'm fine either way.
Agree though, no to a purely "upside" selection at 5 thanks.
At 5 & 25 we should be able to get footballers.