Hot Topic 2016 DRAFT

[Stefchook]

As I said, Clarke is a pure inside beast. He did finish in the top 10 for kicking at the combine. Smart, huge tank and work rate, great pick up for 25

Kicking test at the combine doesn't really tell you much. Quite a few 'poor' kicks did well in it. As much as I love Ed Curnow, not sure SOS would be looking to add another like him onto the list.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

I remember hearing that Brodie finished off the year battered and fatigued after a long year of hard work shouldering a lot of clearance responsibility for his rep sides. Is that true??? How did he loom early on when fresh???

As the standout no.1 pick

 

[Stefchook]

Bit of discussion about the merits of a 'pure' midfielder vs. a 'hybrid'. Been interesting to see the way Toby Greene and Clay Smith (who were drafted as pure 'inside' midfielders) have been developed into really capable small forwards. If you're good enough to win the ball in the midfield, there's a fair chance you'll be able to win it up forward as well.

Not that I'm committed to Brodie ahead of Taranto. Just saying.

 

[El Topo]

I don't see Brodie as a Cripps clone at all. He has pace and a sidestep and kicks as much as he handballs. He is not purely a get hands on the ball and dish it out to advantage type of inside midfielder. He's be a second wave behind Cripps who takes the ball at speed and busts through a stoppage. He is good at overlap running and spotting up inside 50 targets from stoppages.

Let's not forget we suffer in contested ball and clearances still. Gibbs is our second best clearance player and may only be here another year. If you get another 6 clearance per game player who can also use pace to run into space and link up, then you are probably adding another couple of strings to your midfield. Win the ball, grow the midfield, add the cream next year. Pickett, Palmer, Gibbs and Murphy can be the goalkicking mids until then.

Add to this, another strong clearance player allows Cripps to develop his forward game.

 

[Azul]

Add to this, another strong clearance player allows Cripps to develop his forward game.

I'm not convinced on Cripps as a forward.

For a big man he's not a great overhead mark and his conversion rate is 16.28

 

[1981]

100%


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Ditto
Brodie can run which is great for A ball winner

 

[Arr0w]

Thanks Arrow , agree then Clarke would be our nuts and bolts man at pick 25 I just wasn't sure about he's kicking skills , shutter when we select lads that are slow and can't kick.
This would allow fitness and skill at pick 5 , say SPS, Scrimshaw, Ainsworth or hopefully, Mc Cluggage.

Well he still needs to build his strength, like most kids, but in the open, he has reasonable delivery.

Number 1 contested player, average 29+ possessions a game

 

[Arr0w]

Kicking test at the combine doesn't really tell you much. Quite a few 'poor' kicks did well in it. As much as I love Ed Curnow, not sure SOS would be looking to add another like him onto the list.

Everyone is saying our first priority is a pure inside mid to help Cripps and Clarke is certainly that

 

[1981]

But he won't go at 5 and mighty be there at 25

 

[Arr0w]

But he won't go at 5 and mighty be there at 25

Your right, no way he will go at 5, and if he is not there at 25, Drew is a very good option

 

[Aphrodite]

Tim Taranto has been compared to Geelong great Jimmy Bartel with his overhead marking a highlight .......


Video:-

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2016-11-02/tomorrows-heroes-tim-taranto

 

[Aphrodite]

Todd Marshall is one of the most promising key forwards in this year's NAB AFL Draft .......


Video:-

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2016-11-02/tomorrows-heroes-todd-marshall

 

[Aphrodite]

Tim English has been compared to West Coast great Dean Cox and looms as an early pick in the NAB AFL Draft .......


Video:-

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2016-11-02/tomorrows-heroes-tim-english

 

[Pafloyul]

2016 draft is exciting of have a Jacob type expectations, that's very strong Silvagni will bring home plenty of X factor and grunt in 3 quality players with our first three picks.
Go Baggers

Tried Google Translate...still nothing.

'The 2016 draft will be exciting because we all have expectations for the first pick just like we did regarding Jacob (Weitering). My anticipation is very strong with Silvagni likely to bring us home three quality players with grunt and 'upside' with our first three selections.'

 

[Bic]

Welcome, Tim Taranto.

 

[DIG]

Today's Afl.com article on Ainsworth wasn't exactly glowing. Read that he's absolute gun yes, but queries over his attitude, discipline and talk that he's arrogant too. Sounds like a smart arse to me and not the sharpest tool in the shed either.

 

[Blue__Balls]

Today's Afl.com article on Ainsworth wasn't exactly glowing. Read that he's absolute gun yes, but queries over his attitude, discipline and talk that he's arrogant too. Sounds like a smart arse to me and not the sharpest tool in the shed either.

I miss our idiots, though - maybe we need a new one?

 

[coryne]

Today's Afl.com article on Ainsworth wasn't exactly glowing. Read that he's absolute gun yes, but queries over his attitude, discipline and talk that he's arrogant too. Sounds like a smart arse to me and not the sharpest tool in the shed either.

So he is in line to be their next captain when Rockliff leaves in a year or two ??? ........

 

[El Topo]

I'm not convinced on Cripps as a forward.

For a big man he's not a great overhead mark and his conversion rate is 16.28

Certainly not as a full timer, but it wouldn't take much improvement for Patty to be a consistent 1-2 goal per game resting forward, and that's what he needs to become a genuinely dominant player.

 

[HBF]

Todd Marshall is one of the most promising key forwards in this year's NAB AFL Draft .......


Video:-

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2016-11-02/tomorrows-heroes-todd-marshall

Has the talent, I just worry about when goes on above his shoulders.

 

[Funk]

Tim Taranto has been compared to Geelong great Jimmy Bartel with his overhead marking a highlight .......


Video:-

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2016-11-02/tomorrows-heroes-tim-taranto

Watched the Taranto video.

It may be his Italian roots but he seems to have a bit of "Silvagni" about him.

His running style, posture, handball technique and the way he avoids tacklers looks uncannily like SOS and SOSOS.

SOS secret love child??????

Must get!!!!

 

[Jimmae]

Today's Afl.com article on Ainsworth wasn't exactly glowing. Read that he's absolute gun yes, but queries over his attitude, discipline and talk that he's arrogant too. Sounds like a smart arse to me and not the sharpest tool in the shed either.

Massive article, and you hone in on this:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-02/going-places-a-splitsecond-call-goes-wrong-for-ben-ainsworth

Recruiters are already interested to see how Ainsworth handles various setbacks. He was told after the American tour that some scouts perceived him as arrogant around his teammates. It annoyed him. "I really don't like that tag," he says. "Sometimes you can ignore people by accident if they're joking around or whatever, but because of your stature or what you do, they might think you're arrogant. I hate when people call me that.

"None of them said it to me directly, which probably annoyed me the most. Don't be passive about it. I like to keep to myself a bit. I'm outgoing, but I don't like being the person making the most noise." Ainsworth knows his suspension has given recruiters reasons to probe further into his attitude. He understands they will want to know why he was undisciplined, whether he can cope with a tight tag, and if he can control his frustrations.

He might be a slight hot-head (claims the nature of the bulk of his suspension was a poorly timed hip & shoulder, not him wanting to hurt someone), but this reads like a beat-up from old-school recruiters.

 

[Azul]

Yet the hometown video on Ainsworth paints him as a likeable country lad a little overawed by the big smoke and sense of belonging.

 

[Blue__Balls]

Massive article, and you hone in on this:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-02/going-places-a-splitsecond-call-goes-wrong-for-ben-ainsworth


He might be a slight hot-head (claims the nature of the bulk of his suspension was a poorly timed hip & shoulder, not him wanting to hurt someone), but this reads like a beat-up from old-school recruiters.

Sounds like someone's trying to do a "Curnow" on him and scare a few higher placed clubs away.

 

[jimmyshell]

The Swans midfield only has Kennedy who is comparable to Cripps. Hannebery can spread very well, Parker can play forward and middle. They're both very good at contested ball but they aren't the contested beasts Like a Kennedy, Cripps or Priddis. They might get 25 possessions with 15 contested but they will have 12 handballs 13 kicks or something around that mark. Cripps and Kennedy will get 25 possessions 20 contested and 21 handballs with only 4 kicks. You can't have a midfield with to many guys like that.

It's great to have one and I'm not talking down about Cripps at all (he's probably my favorite player at the moment), but having more than one or two of that style at a max and you'll have an unbalanced midfield. You need the guys like Hannebery and Parker to feed off of Cripps inside work, which Murphy and Gibbs were doing well until Murphy's injury.

You're begging the question that Cripps plays 100% game time though, and all of it at the centre clearance. Even The great Crippa needs a rest, or god forbid, what if he gets injuried. Cripps and Brodie in the same team is not unbalanced in the slightest.