Hot Topic 2016 DRAFT

[Canyouhearthedrums]

I respect what EP says, but if BRI don't bid on Bowes, I could see GCS taking SPS. Can't see us passing on Brodie after that. Don't see us taking a fly on a kid who 3 months ago was a nobody either. Happier with a Vic kid also. I reckon on SPS getting homesick at some stage.

Could easily be interpreted as Brodie not getting to our pick, as opposed to us not being into him.

Now, what's a Brodie?

 

[Funk]

i have no idea about him so looked him up in the phantom drafts. here is the overview by knightmare. i dont know knightmares credentials but it makes interesting reading especially for us novices:

24. William Hayward (SA)
Best position: General forward
Height, weight: 186cm, 76kg
Recruited from: North Adelaide
Plays like: James Sicily
Projected draft range: second round onwards
Rated last month: Unrated
Rationale behind ranking/change of ranking: Has earned his way onto draft board on the back of an outstanding SANFL Under-18 finals series up forward.
Strengths:
- Marking at highest point
- Marking on the lead
- Timing of leads
- One-on-one marking
- Aerial marking
- Vertical leap
- Attacks ball in the air
- Gets front position in marking contests
- Reads drop of ball
- Scoreboard impact
- Genuine No. 1 option in forward 50m
- Football smarts
-Clean at ground level
Weaknesses:
- Unproven outside forward 50m
- Not a big ball winner
- Possible but unclear midfield potential

So he does all the things our other forwards (except SOSOS) can't do!!!

 

[PumpyChowdown]

If * take Mcgrath then Gws will Take Ainsworth. Fact.

 

[ericpascoe]

Quite the overreaction to my post. See you guys in a couple of years. Ciao

 

[Mr_Plow]

Quite the overreaction to my post. See you guys in a couple of years. Ciao

By BigFooty standards this was an underreaction.

 

[gandaal]

Quite the overreaction to my post. See you guys in a couple of years. Ciao

Not at all mate. We're hardly upset with you. We all appreciate you keeping us informed. It's a great thing.

We're just discussing the consequences of what you've told us.

 

[Toddski]

Hayward is a jet but wow pick 5!?

We need a solid contributor that accumulates and Taranto fits the bill.

 

[gandaal]

Quite the overreaction to my post. See you guys in a couple of years. Ciao

I must also say that I'm actually quite pleased that SPS is the most likely at pick 5. The kid is a gun and given an injury free run he'd probably have had pick 1 sewn up mid year.

 

[zeeCFC]

Quite the overreaction to my post. See you guys in a couple of years. Ciao

It's not directed at you ep, it's a fairly big bombshell you've dropped. We all hugely appreciate what you've told us over the years.

 

[mediumsizered]

Quite the overreaction to my post. See you guys in a couple of years. Ciao

It really saddens me when those in the know get hammered into submission by those who I would consider to be internet bullies.

Your work on here is appreciated by the vast majority. It will be a shame to lose another poster who brings good inside information to our board.

 

[bmaurizio]

Forget Scrimshaw. Would fail the "no ****head" test

Brodie very unlikely
Taranto maybe
Petrevski-Seton probable
Biggest threat to him - Hayward. He's rocketing

Thanks for the insights EP it's very much appricated.

 

[bmaurizio]

I must also say that I'm actually quite pleased that SPS is the most likely at pick 5. The kid is a gun and given an injury free run he'd probably have had pick 1 sewn up mid year.

Exactly this kid is amazing and if CFC is to be so lucky to be able to select SPS , I'd be absolutely stoked.
He's an absolute future gun

 

[thylacine60]

ep, what if I were to tell you that come draft night you can expect cake, a petting zoo and appreciation? Any interest? Probably be marble cake......

 

[Stig O'Hara]

I like cake.

 

[CRIPPA9]

Used to be a Brodie man, but now he's even, if not slightly below SPS in my books. Just think pick 5 would be a bit of a waste for Brodie, seeing as there will be a few similar type players at our 2nd. There will definitely not be someone of SPS's talent and skills there however. I feel this would be our last opportunity to draft someone of his talent as next year we'll probably take a KPP and 2018+ we might not have as high draft picks to use.

I'd be stoked with a SPS/SPP combo. Would be an awesome pair, who would hopefully keep each other at the club. If he's not there, I'd also be keen on Drew/Clarke.

Regardless I'll be happy who we take and will back in SOS and the rest of the recruitment team to pick the right player.

 

[HARKER]

Quite the overreaction to my post. See you guys in a couple of years. Ciao

Come on mate. 99% of posters appreciate your consideration and the odd one just makes a little error of judgement.
Forgive and forget.

It's interesting that we aren't bound to the one player just yet as may be the case for the first three teams in this draft, but who knows what can still come about with little set in stone. McCluggage anyone?

 

[HARKER]

The thing is that we're looking for one player here and one player there, but SOS and co are charged with putting the right group together that should take us north on the ladder.

I don't care for any names but for the sum of the parts....parts that we've attained through the trade period....parts that will come about via the drafts.....in 2016, 17 and 18.

The team won't be built through this draft alone, but we jut have to ensure we put all the pieces of the puzzle together.....in time.

 

[Toddski]

Take a look at the WA game where SPS and Zac Fisher are playing.

Id be stoked with these two, they work very nice together.

Completely off Brodie now.

Taranto or SPS please.

 

[Bronze]

Where's this?

It was in todays HUN. There was a full page article on the draft and he speculation around the first lot of pics. It said Carlton will choose between Petrevski-Seton and Taranto. No mention of Brodie or Scrimshaw.

 

[F_therest]

You've got to be blowing smoke up our arse here EP (or someone is blowing smoke up yours); even if you are onto something with character issues for Scrimshaw (and there is zero public evidence of this, as opposed to the usual hints), he still presents less of a risk at 5 than Hayward.




No left foot, and doesn't have enough lateral moves to compensate for it (not horrible agility either, just not enough). Smart player, but he's going to need a lot of work to be a midfielder, and he under pressure he looks an atrocious passer by foot and inconsistent with his technique to the point of failure when slightly off-balance.

That's a Hughes/Rogers pick.

Hold up a second...

Isn't ericpascoe acknowledged to be a reliable poster that gets solid inside info? No one really questioned his posts during trade week, so why are you questioning this now?

The arguments you present here are flimsy at best and no offence, but typical 'BigFooty knowledge' bravado.

Do you watch these kids constantly to be able to make judgement? If so, it would give your appraisal more weight, but it looks like you're just basing your opinion on some videos and general consensus we hear about Brodie, Taranto, SPS being our pick.

The public evidence thing about Scrimshaw's character really means jack all. Obviously our recruiters would have interviewed him personally, his family, his junior coaches etc and have more of an idea of his character.

I just think that if this is true, SOS hasn't given us any reason to doubt him yet and i'd imagine Bolton would have some input and if he's happy with it then im comfortable with it.

 

[Azul]

does Sam Burgerlands have info or is he just reading the bigfooty winds like most 'journalists' at the Herald-Sun?

(argumentum ad hominem, I know)

 

[Jimmae]

Hold up a second...

Isn't ericpascoe acknowledged to be a reliable poster that gets solid inside info? No one really questioned his posts during trade week, so why are you questioning this now?

The arguments you present here are flimsy at best and no offence, but typical 'BigFooty knowledge' bravado.

Do you watch these kids constantly to be able to make judgement? If so, it would give your appraisal more weight, but it looks like you're just basing your opinion on some videos and general consensus we hear about Brodie, Taranto, SPS being our pick.

The public evidence thing about Scrimshaw's character really means jack all. Obviously our recruiters would have interviewed him personally, his family, his junior coaches etc and have more of an idea of his character.

I just think that if this is true, SOS hasn't given us any reason to doubt him yet and i'd imagine Bolton would have some input and if he's happy with it then im comfortable with it.

Read my post again please, I've made some pretty straight forward arguments, and merely made the point that on face value, the info beggars belief. I'm also not interested in us picking Brodie or Taranto, so I'm not sure why you're big on putting me in with the usual groupthink.

At no point was my post intended as an attack on EP (who is rapidly proving themselves to be extremely temperamental when people comment negatively on the ramifications of the info, rather than having the info brought to us), and you can see what commentary I did direct at EP was tempered by the notion they are likely passing the information in good faith (I even liked the post).

My point re: Scrimshaw's character is valid, if unconfirmed. We've normally heard a whisper by now if they are genuinely suspect. The only issue I can think based on what we've seen is that his dad was a Richmond player and he might have mouthy about the idea of playing for Carlton (though not likely in an official interview with the club). That's hardly the standard character knock, and frankly we should be capable of smoothing such things over and sell the club as an opportunity for him.

Even if you put a line through everything said on BF by a wide variety of posters, Scrimshaw is still very much a bolter alongside Hayward, so I'd be shocked if Gold Coast aren't looking serious at both. Sydney may be a consideration for Hayward given they need a genuine spark up forward. In lieu of a promising key forward, they might see him as the best attacking option available in the draft (or they may lock onto Logue).

Depending on how we pick/bid, I can see GC winding up with Bowes, then three of Scrimshaw, SPS, English, Brodie, Taranto and Hayward, with them burning future picks to pay for Scheer and later-rated academy kids.

 

[Blubagger71]

Forget Scrimshaw. Would fail the "no ****head" test

Brodie very unlikely
Taranto maybe
Petrevski-Seton probable
Biggest threat to him - Hayward. He's rocketing

What's Scrimshaw's major malfunction? Is it something Bolton could rectify?

 

[Blue By Blood]

Read my post again please, I've made some pretty straight forward arguments, and merely made the point that on face value, the info beggars belief. I'm also not interested in us picking Brodie or Taranto, so I'm not sure why you're big on putting me in with the usual groupthink.

At no point was my post intended as an attack on EP (who is rapidly proving themselves to be extremely temperamental when people comment negatively on the ramifications of the info, rather than having the info brought to us), and you can see what commentary I did direct at EP was tempered by the notion they are likely passing the information in good faith (I even liked the post).

My point re: Scrimshaw's character is valid, if unconfirmed. We've normally heard a whisper by now if they are genuinely suspect. The only issue I can think based on what we've seen is that his dad was a Richmond player and he might have mouthy about the idea of playing for Carlton (though not likely in an official interview with the club). That's hardly the standard character knock, and frankly we should be capable of smoothing such things over and sell the club as an opportunity for him.

Even if you put a line through everything said on BF by a wide variety of posters, Scrimshaw is still very much a bolter alongside Hayward, so I'd be shocked if Gold Coast aren't looking serious at both. Sydney may be a consideration for Hayward given they need a genuine spark up forward. In lieu of a promising key forward, they might see him as the best attacking option available in the draft (or they may lock onto Logue).

Depending on how we pick/bid, I can see GC winding up with Bowes, then three of Scrimshaw, SPS, English, Brodie, Taranto and Hayward, with them burning future picks to pay for Scheer and later-rated academy kids.

I remember reading an article on him on the AFL (or herald sun..can't remember which) website a week or so ago and at the time he came across as a bit of a suspect character (maybe that's just arrogance/belief in his abilities). Of course this is just an assumption but that's the vibe I was left with. Not going to sit back and character assassinate though and will happily welcome him if we draft him.

 

[bmaurizio]

EP we need the sanity and stability of intellegent and well connected insights coming so keep up with the updates please.
Thanks