Analysis 2016 Draft...

[Danger in Texas]

Why Beech .......if it's a midfielder required to be upgraded ? .....is Beech or Greenwood the better option ?

I agree both play HFF / Midfield ......both were impressive last season .....could be a toss of the coin

BTW is Beech quick enough for AFL level? ......his style of running makes him look slower, but hard to tell off the TV ?

IMO Greenwood will be kept on the rookie list for one more year. Keeps him as an 'extra player' on the list, in addition to seniors/rookies.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

He's a very typical medium forward. Good overhead, good goal sense.

He could play a role in our 22, but is he good enough to become a permanent fixture?

The question is that we don't need a permanent medium forward .......we need a forward who can go thru the midfield ......does Beech have enough midfield nous, tricks, and pace?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

IMO Greenwood will be kept on the rookie list for one more year. Keeps him as an 'extra player' on the list, in addition to seniors/rookies.

Maybe? ......but IMO he has the biggest upside of all our Rookies .....if i was the club, i'd see how both players progressed / developed over the pre-season ......but the club won't have that luxury, as it will need to upgrade a rookie or go to the draft within 16 days .....Damn!

 

[Danger in Texas]

The question is that we don't need a permanent medium forward .......we need a forward who can go thru the midfield ......does Beech have enough midfield nous, tricks, and pace?

I would say no. That's why I said I think he can play a role in the 22 if needed, but I doubt he'll be a permanent contributor for us.

Maybe? ......but IMO he has the biggest upside of all our Rookies .....if i was the club, i'd see how both players progressed / developed over the pre-season ......but the club won't have that luxury, as it will need to upgrade a rookie or go to the draft within 16 days .....Damn!

Oh, I agree. Greenwood has massive upside. I reckon the club knows how he has/will progress(ed) over the course of this year. I reckon they'll be basing their POTENTIAL upgrade on what's best for the list, though - would we prefer to go into 2017 with 45 players, or 46? We might not even upgrade someone.

 

[cammo6556]

Sam McLarty with a late/rookie pick entices me

Great talent, would cost next to nothing, great character... and a great story.

Had a poor year (injuries/form etc) but reckon hes has what it takes.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Hmmm, who was it that wanted to bet me that Graham & Scharenberg would get picked before Hayward?

Come on, don't be shy!

Where is Marty moose ???!!!

Sheesh - he was adamant sharenberg would be taken far far earlier

Hayward has weapons to be one of the best players in this draft , I've said it before but screams potential Fyfe ( I realise it sounds ridiculous at this stage )

 

[DJ75]

Where is Marty moose ???!!!

Sheesh - he was adamant sharenberg would be taken far far earlier

Hayward has weapons to be one of the best players in this draft , I've said it before but screams potential Fyfe ( I realise it sounds ridiculous at this stage )

Does seem to have gone very very quiet.....

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Does seem to have gone very very quiet.....

Going to be interesting when shaz gets picked up in the 3rd round , maybe all 18 clubs will be wrong

 

[Danger in Texas]

Going to be interesting when shaz gets picked up in the 3rd round , maybe all 18 clubs will be wrong

Reckon he'll get picked up somewhere in the 2nd myself, PA won't be able to resist IMO.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Reckon he'll get picked up somewhere in the 2nd myself, PA won't be able to resist IMO.

Nope ....they won't go near him IMO

Reckon he will be heading interstate , 35- 55 range

 

[Danger in Texas]

Nope ....they won't go near him IMO

Reckon he will be heading interstate , 35- 55 range

At this stage, I'm predicting 30-40 for Jonty. Is the type that may slide, though

 

[jackster83]

Nope ....they won't go near him IMO

Reckon he will be heading interstate , 35- 55 range

If he's still there at pick 43, then it's party at Sando's time!

 

[JimmyTheScoop]

Won't be upgrading any rookies, (apparently we are unable to, wasn't there a cutoff point for upgrades, when ROB was moved to the senior list). Will have an extra pick in the draft, around the 90's?

My question is; How many rookies can you have on your list? Can we forgo our last pick and use it on an extra rookie? Potentially 8 new players at the club (if we use all list spots), how long since we had that many?




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[JPetro83]

So we have 7 players that were on our list in 2016 that are no longer on that list.
ROB comes onto the list so that means we have 6 places to fill.
Will we use the draft to fill all the places? or will we upgrade a Greenwood or a Beech?

I'm hoping we pick up a delisted free agent to fill a spot. Grimes from the dees I think is worth a punt. or Jake Barrett from the GWS

Thoughts?

 

[JPetro83]

Six selections now, wow

Hopefully we pick up a delisted FA to fill a spot. 6 selections is massive compared to other years.

I think you're better off picking up a delisted FA rather than picking a kid up over the 100 mark in the draft. use the rookie draft for that.

 

[GrommoT]

Won't be upgrading any rookies, (apparently we are unable to, wasn't there a cutoff point for upgrades, when ROB was moved to the senior list).

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Think you're thinking of in-season? Clubs get to upgrade elevate rookies during draft period using late draft picks .

 

[Jeffcrowe]

If he's still there at pick 43, then it's party at Sando's time!

Prefer many others eg Poholke Drew and Lipinski

 

[Scorpus]

Won't be upgrading any rookies, (apparently we are unable to, wasn't there a cutoff point for upgrades, when ROB was moved to the senior list). Will have an extra pick in the draft, around the 90's?

My question is; How many rookies can you have on your list? Can we forgo our last pick and use it on an extra rookie? Potentially 8 new players at the club (if we use all list spots), how long since we had that many?



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You can have 44 players in total across the regular rookie and senior lists. 38-40 on the senior list and 6-4 on the rookie list

 

[crows dude]

According to Vader list lodgement for rookie upgrades was two weeks ago when we added O'Brien and re-contratced Beech, Greenwood, Keath to the Rookie list. So it appears we are looking at using that pick 89 or going to the pre-season draft or playing one short on the list.

List lodgemtn dates

Friday 25 September 2pm - Draft Eligible Academy Player Nominations Lodged

Friday 9 October - AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period Commences

Monday 12 October 10am - NAB AFL Trade Period Commences

Sunday 18 October 5pm - Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Wednesday 21 October - AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends

Thursday 22 October 2pm – NAB AFL Trade Period Closes

Friday 23 October 5pm - Application to Relist a Player Close

Friday 30 October 2pm - List Lodgement (1) ; Rookie Promotion to Primary List; Retained 2nd & 3rd Year Rookies; International Scholarship Player; Alternate Talent Player Nominations; Club Notification of Rookie Players Not Accepting a Contract of Offer; Nomination of Draft Eligible Father/Son Players Lodged; TPP Pre-Season Estimates (1).

Saturday 31 October - AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) Commences

Monday 9 November 5pm - AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) Closes

Monday 9 November 2pm - Out of Contract Listed AFL Primary List Players Draft Nomination Form and Player Request for Removal from List Form Lodged with AFL

Tuesday 10 November 2pm - List Lodgement (2); TPP Pre-Season Estimates (2)

Wednesday 11 November - AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) Commences

Tuesday 17 November 2pm - Delisted Primary List Draft Nomination Form Lodgement; Non–Retained Rookie Players Draft Nomination Form Lodgement; Players Not Registered or Played for Three years Rookie List Form lodgement; New or Expired (after 3 years) Draft Nomination Form Lodgement.

Friday 20 November 5pm - AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) Closes

Tuesday 24 November - NAB AFL Draft Selection Meeting (Adelaide Convention Centre) including Father/Son & Academy Players Bidding.

Wednesday 25 November - AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) Commences

Thursday 26 November 2pm - AFL Delisted Free Agency Period (3) Concludes; AFL Club List Lodgement (3).

Friday 27 November 11am - NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft Selection Meeting (Telstra Webex)

Friday 27 November 11:05am - Notification of Pre-Selected Rookies if not selected in the Pre-Season Draft.

Friday 27 November 11:10am - NAB AFL Rookie Draft Selection Meeting (Telstra Webex)

Tuesday 1 December 2pm - Final AFL Club List Lodgement; Final TPP Pre-Season Estimates

Friday 4 December 2pm - International Players Inclusion on Rookie List Form Lodgement.

 

[cammo6556]

According to Vader list lodgement for rookie upgrades was two weeks ago when we added O'Brien and re-contratced Beech, Greenwood, Keath to the Rookie list. So it appears we are looking at using that pick 89 or going to the pre-season draft or playing one short on the list.

List lodgemtn dates

Friday 25 September 2pm - Draft Eligible Academy Player Nominations Lodged

Friday 9 October - AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period Commences

Monday 12 October 10am - NAB AFL Trade Period Commences

Sunday 18 October 5pm - Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Wednesday 21 October - AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends

Thursday 22 October 2pm – NAB AFL Trade Period Closes

Friday 23 October 5pm - Application to Relist a Player Close

Friday 30 October 2pm - List Lodgement (1) ; Rookie Promotion to Primary List; Retained 2nd & 3rd Year Rookies; International Scholarship Player; Alternate Talent Player Nominations; Club Notification of Rookie Players Not Accepting a Contract of Offer; Nomination of Draft Eligible Father/Son Players Lodged; TPP Pre-Season Estimates (1).

Saturday 31 October - AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) Commences

Monday 9 November 5pm - AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) Closes

Monday 9 November 2pm - Out of Contract Listed AFL Primary List Players Draft Nomination Form and Player Request for Removal from List Form Lodged with AFL

Tuesday 10 November 2pm - List Lodgement (2); TPP Pre-Season Estimates (2)

Wednesday 11 November - AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) Commences

Tuesday 17 November 2pm - Delisted Primary List Draft Nomination Form Lodgement; Non–Retained Rookie Players Draft Nomination Form Lodgement; Players Not Registered or Played for Three years Rookie List Form lodgement; New or Expired (after 3 years) Draft Nomination Form Lodgement.

Friday 20 November 5pm - AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) Closes

Tuesday 24 November - NAB AFL Draft Selection Meeting (Adelaide Convention Centre) including Father/Son & Academy Players Bidding.

Wednesday 25 November - AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) Commences

Thursday 26 November 2pm - AFL Delisted Free Agency Period (3) Concludes; AFL Club List Lodgement (3).

Friday 27 November 11am - NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft Selection Meeting (Telstra Webex)

Friday 27 November 11:05am - Notification of Pre-Selected Rookies if not selected in the Pre-Season Draft.

Friday 27 November 11:10am - NAB AFL Rookie Draft Selection Meeting (Telstra Webex)

Tuesday 1 December 2pm - Final AFL Club List Lodgement; Final TPP Pre-Season Estimates

Friday 4 December 2pm - International Players Inclusion on Rookie List Form Lodgement.

its thursday the 10th today... are the days or dates wrong?

 

[crows dude]

its thursday the 10th today... are the days or dates wrong?

Must be last years

Below is this years

ALL AFL clubs were required to submit club lists to the AFL by 2pm, Monday October 31, in preparation for next month's NAB AFL Draft, to be held on Friday November 25 in Sydney.

Please find detailed the additions and deletions to each club primary list since the conclusion of the 2016 Toyota AFL Premiership Season, along with retained rookies. Please note that the selection order for the 2016 NAB AFL Draft is not finalised until the second delisted free agency period is concluded on Friday November 18. Please also find below the remaining key dates in the Draft process.

Adelaide Crows
In: Reilly O’Brien (upgraded from rookie list).

Out: Nathan van Berlo (retired), Mitch Grigg (delisted), Ricky Henderson (delisted), Matthew Jaensch (retired), Luke Lowden (delisted), Jarryd Lyons (traded to GC Suns), Keenan Ramsay (delisted).

Retained Rookies: Jonathon Beech, Hugh Greenwood, Alex Keath, Paul Hunter.



AFL Remaining Key Dates:
Tuesday 1 November - AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) Commences

Tuesday 8 November - AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) Closes, Out of Contract Listed AFL Primary List Players Draft Nomination Form and Player Request for Removal from List Form Lodged with AFL

Wednesday 9 November 2pm - List Lodgement (2); TPP Pre-Season Estimates (2)

Thursday 10 November - AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) Commences

Friday 18 November 2pm - Delisted Primary List Draft Nomination Form Lodgement; Non–Retained Rookie Players Draft Nomination Form Lodgement; Players Not Registered or Played for Three years Rookie List Form lodgement; New or Expired (after 3 years) Draft Nomination Form Lodgement, AFL Father-Son Bidding Nominations.

Friday 18 November 5pm - AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) Closes

Friday 25 November - NAB AFL Draft Selection Meeting (Sydney) including Father/Son & Academy Players Bidding.

Saturday 26 November - AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) Commences

Sunday 27 November 2pm - AFL Delisted Free Agency Period (3) Concludes

Monday 28 November - AFL Club List Lodgement (3).

Monday 28 November 4pm - NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft Selection Meeting (Telstra Webex)

Monday 28 November 4.05pm - Notification of Pre-Selected Rookies if not selected in the Pre-Season Draft.

Monday 28 November 4.10pm - NAB AFL Rookie Draft Selection Meeting (Telstra Webex)

Wednesday 30 November 2pm - Final AFL Club List Lodgement; Final TPP Pre-Season Estimates

 

[marty36]

Where is Marty moose ???!!!

Sheesh - he was adamant sharenberg would be taken far far earlier

Hayward has weapons to be one of the best players in this draft , I've said it before but screams potential Fyfe ( I realise it sounds ridiculous at this stage )

Oh sorry has the draft been?

Out of these fantastic write ups of these many players on average 35% play in excess of 100 games so that is going to mean 30 out of the 80 will succeed the other 50 will fail, it may be esier to pick the ones who will have no impact than those that will

 

[Betts are off]

Oh sorry has the draft been?

Out of these fantastic write ups of these many players on average 35% play in excess of 100 games so that is going to mean 30 out of the 80 will succeed the other 50 will fail, it may be esier to pick the ones who will have no impact than those that will

Did you know that 72% of all stats you read on the internet are made up?

Including that stat I just typed!

 

[Betts are off]

So we have 7 players that were on our list in 2016 that are no longer on that list.
ROB comes onto the list so that means we have 6 places to fill.
Will we use the draft to fill all the places? or will we upgrade a Greenwood or a Beech?

I'm hoping we pick up a delisted free agent to fill a spot. Grimes from the dees I think is worth a punt. or Jake Barrett from the GWS

Thoughts?

Has Clem Smith found a home yet? I was interested in him during his draft but haven't really followed his career. I know he's a WA lad with pace. Might be worth a crack on the rookie list

 

[marty36]

Did you know that 72% of all stats you read on the internet are made up?

Including that stat I just typed!

go on footy wire it will show the numbers on each dradt and how many from each year play 100, those stats are from 2000-2009 bit unfair at looking at 2010 upwards or the percentages would be worse but not justified

Its amazing how many dont make it