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Interesting article re Chris Pelchen's "Star Network" and what they've come up with as their top 20 picks in this draft, looks a very probable order to me. Thoroughly agree with his assessment of Jordan Ridley.

Edit : reckon he's nailed it for mine.

Very good read.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-20/new-model-to-boost-future-recruiting-strategies

STAR Network's top 20 draft rankings
1. Andrew McGrath
POS: Midfielder, Ht 179cm, Wt 75kg, DOB 2/6/98

From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "To us, he didn't put a foot wrong all year. He played in so many positions – he can be a genuine midfielder, a run-with player and even troubleshoot in defence or push forward and create. His versatility makes him the most valuable player."

2. Hugh McCluggage
POS: Midfielder, Ht 185cm, Wt 75kg, DOB 3/3/1998
From North Ballarat Rebels/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "What's ideal about Hugh is that he's a goalkicking midfielder and they are few and far between. He can go inside and outside and things seem to happen after he's had the ball."

3. Jack Bowes
POS: Midfielder, Ht 187cm, Wt 78kg, DOB 26/1/98
From Gold Coast Academy/Queensland
Pelchen says: "Jack is such a smooth mover. Everything he does is normally right and we've looked at him closely this year and he's rarely played a bad game. He's a modern day midfielder and for that reason we've got him rated higher than many people have."

4. Will Setterfield
POS: Midfielder, Ht 190cm, Wt 80kg, DOB 5/2/98
From Sandringham Dragons/GWS Academy/NSW-ACT
Pelchen says: "While he had his injury interruptions, we believe he can play any role through the midfield and he can go forward or back if need be. He's got outstanding character and we've got no doubt GWS are going to end up with a fantastic player."

5. Jack Scrimshaw
POS: Defender/midfielder, Ht 194cm, Wt 80kg, DOB 4/9/98
From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "Jack is an incredibly talented and creative player who can play at half-back and may push into the midfield at some stage. We have him rated this highly because of the way he uses the ball and controls the game from defence."

6. Tim Taranto
POS: Midfielder, Ht 186cm, Wt 82kg, DOB 28/1/98
From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "Tim has really shot up the calculations and it's not hard to see why. He can play in the midfield or up forward. He's hard at the footy and makes things happen. He's good above his head and he's going to be a really impressive AFL footballer."

7. Sam Petrevski-Seton
POS: Midfield/half-forward, Ht 181cm, Wt 76kg, DOB 19/2/98
From Claremont/Western Australia
Pelchen says: "He's a Rolls Royce and a player who's easy to watch. He's a smooth performer and uses the ball well. He'll need to keep his work rate up and I'm sure clubs will stress that to him, hence why he's a better player under pressure."

8. Ben Ainsworth
POS: Small forward, Ht 179cm, Wt 74kg, DOB 10/2/98
From Gippsland Power/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "Ben's a player who has been a solid performer over the last three years. He's hard at the footy, he can play inside midfield and he can play as a talented, dynamic small forward. He's a very hard player to match up on."

9. Harry Perryman
POS: Midfielder/half-forward, Ht 184cm, Wt 75kg, DOB 19/12/98
From Collingullie-GP/GWS Academy/NSW-ACT
Pelchen says: "He's not as pretty to watch as others but he's just so efficient in what he gets done. He uses the ball extremely well and he's exactly what the Giants need – guys who can play one-on-one football."

10. Will Brodie
POS: Midfielder, Ht 189cm, Wt 82kg, DOB 23/8/98
From Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "He's a very competitive kid and he's someone we rate highly as a person. Will's a very safe selection. He's very disciplined in the way he approaches his game and he's meticulous in the way he prepares for his football."

11. Jy Simpkin
POS: Half-forward/midfielder, Ht 181cm, Wt 71kg, DOB 5/3/98
From Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "He's dynamic and he does catch your eye. Despite breaking his leg early in the season, he plays his footy with real spirit and he's a guy that doesn't get caught often because he uses the footy so quickly and efficiently."

12. Tim English
POS: Ruckman/tall forward, Ht 204cm, Wt 86kg, DOB 10/8/97
From South Fremantle/Western Australia
Pelchen says: He's a difficult one to place because he's such a raw talent. At 204cm, to have that sort of agility and ground coverage means he's a very attractive option for clubs. Not many clubs choose ruckmen in the first round of the draft, but I think English will buck that trend."

13. Alex Witherden
POS: Half-back, Ht 189cm, Wt 79kg, DOB 10/9/98
From Geelong Falcons/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "The best is yet to be seen out of Alex and we've had to take his injury into account (a broken leg that wiped out his 2016 season). If he'd played the whole year he would have been even higher – he's just got such composure with the footy."

14. Jarrod Berry
POS: Midfield/half-back, Ht 191cm, Wt 80kg, DOB 5/2/98
From North Ballarat Rebels/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "He's a tough, rebounding defender and gets the footy and goes. To have the endurance level he's got means he's going to be able to play on talls and smalls. We really like the run and risk he plays with."

15. Oliver Florent
POS: Midfielder/Half-forward, Ht 183cm, WT 74kg, DOB 22/7/98
From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "A player who came up the order later in the year, like he did for most clubs. He can play in so many spots forward of centre, he's a very attractive option. It's getting more difficult to pick midfielders who can rest up forward and kick goals, but this guy can."

16. Griffin Logue
POS: Key defender, Ht 194cm, Wt 92kg, DOB 13/4/98
From Swan Districts/Western Australia
Pelchen says: "This is one lad, because he isn't a midfielder, who will attract a lot of interest. He's got such good athleticism. To run with the endurance at 194cm that he has, means that he'll be able to play on those modern day AFL star forwards."

17. Jordan Gallucci
POS: Midfielder, Ht 183cm, Wt 75kg, DOB 3/5/98
From Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "He gets varying opinions across clubs, but for us his athleticism means that you're really going to be able to mould this player into what you want. He can jump and he can run – he's a true athlete – and he'll be able to go forward, after stints in the midfield, and be a marking option."

18. Daniel Venables
POS: Midfielder/half-forward, Ht 186cm, Wt 81kg, DOB 19/11/98
From Western Jets/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "He's a player who's polarised opinions a little. His natural aggression is something that appeals to AFL clubs and his championships form was excellent. But he's had injuries so there is a little risk there. That ferocity at the footy won't leave you wondering what he's going to do."

19. Will Hayward
POS: Half-forward, Ht 186cm, Wt 76kg, DOB 26/10/98

From North Adelaide/South Australia
Pelchen says: "He is exciting because he can kick goals. As a forward, he's dangerous in the air and he's dangerous on the ground. He can rush his disposal a little bit but we wouldn't be surprised at all if someone picked him earlier because of his talent."

20. Jordan Ridley
POS: Tall defender, Ht 192cm, Wt 79kg, DOB 20/10/98
From Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "He's a bit higher than some clubs may have had him but he's a player who has real upside. Anyone who can kick the ball as well as Jordan, at his height, deserves this standing. He can play as a third tall defender or even on the wing if need be."
 
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Bicks said:
You did see who made that claim?
Think the Rebels Talent Manager Phil Partington might have a better handle on the kid than some bloke that the closest he's ever got to him is through video, replays and highlight reels?..

"Jarrod's an outstanding leader. He's a boy you'd want to go to war with. He does everything possible to become better in everything he does. He jumps on his bike to go to the gym by himself and after games, when everyone else is gone, he'll be the one in here doing his rehab. He's just determined to get the best out of himself and whoever picks him up will be very pleased with the person they're bringing in. He can play in various positions; I don't think you can pigeonhole him. He's showed he can play the half-back role, he's showed this year that he can play on-ball and he's a very dangerous player when he goes forward as well. He hasn't had a good run at it because of injury this year, but he has many strings to his bow."

Phil Partington, North Ballarat talent manager
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...rvester-medium-defenders-20160928-grqd5i.html
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I think you might be suffering from psychosis or you are not reading what I was replying to. My reply was not related to Berry himself. My response was to Damger in Texas' claim that self confidence can improve in a professional environment (i.e. Self doubt can disappear.). Now the topic of conversation might have started by comments about Berry but my reply was purely to the claim that self doubts can disappear in professional environment. Nothing to do with Berry the player or person. I will leave that analysis to Hamish and the team.
 
Wayne's-World said:
IMO Galluci's in the frame, as he's typically the type of player we draft ......IMO plays similar to Richard Douglas

The kicking action is fine, so the AFL environment will tidy that aspect up, as it will with many players in full time training

Not my preferred but can see him thereabouts, and not out as far in the draft as some are predicting (late 1st - early 2nd) ......think Bulldogs
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Douglas was drafted by James Fantasia, how can you say Douglas is an example of the type we draft? There have been 2 different head recruiters since Douglas was drafted.
 
Stiffy_18 said:
I think you might be suffering from psychosis or you are not reading what I was replying to. My reply was not related to Berry himself. My response was to Damger in Texas' claim that self confidence can improve in a professional environment (i.e. Self doubt can disappear.). Now the topic of conversation might have started by comments about Berry but my reply was purely to the claim that self doubts can disappear in professional environment. Nothing to do with Berry the player or person. I will leave that analysis to Hamish and the team.
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OK I must have read it wrong, all good. :thumbsu:
 
Bicks said:
Interesting article re Chris Pelchen's "Star Network" and what they've come up with as their top 20 picks in this draft, looks a very probable order to me. Thoroughly agree with his assessment of Jordan Ridley.

Edit : reckon he's nailed it for mine.

Very good read.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-20/new-model-to-boost-future-recruiting-strategies

STAR Network's top 20 draft rankings
1. Andrew McGrath
POS: Midfielder, Ht 179cm, Wt 75kg, DOB 2/6/98

From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "To us, he didn't put a foot wrong all year. He played in so many positions – he can be a genuine midfielder, a run-with player and even troubleshoot in defence or push forward and create. His versatility makes him the most valuable player."

2. Hugh McCluggage
POS: Midfielder, Ht 185cm, Wt 75kg, DOB 3/3/1998
From North Ballarat Rebels/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "What's ideal about Hugh is that he's a goalkicking midfielder and they are few and far between. He can go inside and outside and things seem to happen after he's had the ball."

3. Jack Bowes
POS: Midfielder, Ht 187cm, Wt 78kg, DOB 26/1/98
From Gold Coast Academy/Queensland
Pelchen says: "Jack is such a smooth mover. Everything he does is normally right and we've looked at him closely this year and he's rarely played a bad game. He's a modern day midfielder and for that reason we've got him rated higher than many people have."

4. Will Setterfield
POS: Midfielder, Ht 190cm, Wt 80kg, DOB 5/2/98
From Sandringham Dragons/GWS Academy/NSW-ACT
Pelchen says: "While he had his injury interruptions, we believe he can play any role through the midfield and he can go forward or back if need be. He's got outstanding character and we've got no doubt GWS are going to end up with a fantastic player."

5. Jack Scrimshaw
POS: Defender/midfielder, Ht 194cm, Wt 80kg, DOB 4/9/98
From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "Jack is an incredibly talented and creative player who can play at half-back and may push into the midfield at some stage. We have him rated this highly because of the way he uses the ball and controls the game from defence."

6. Tim Taranto
POS: Midfielder, Ht 186cm, Wt 82kg, DOB 28/1/98
From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "Tim has really shot up the calculations and it's not hard to see why. He can play in the midfield or up forward. He's hard at the footy and makes things happen. He's good above his head and he's going to be a really impressive AFL footballer."

7. Sam Petrevski-Seton
POS: Midfield/half-forward, Ht 181cm, Wt 76kg, DOB 19/2/98
From Claremont/Western Australia
Pelchen says: "He's a Rolls Royce and a player who's easy to watch. He's a smooth performer and uses the ball well. He'll need to keep his work rate up and I'm sure clubs will stress that to him, hence why he's a better player under pressure."

8. Ben Ainsworth
POS: Small forward, Ht 179cm, Wt 74kg, DOB 10/2/98
From Gippsland Power/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "Ben's a player who has been a solid performer over the last three years. He's hard at the footy, he can play inside midfield and he can play as a talented, dynamic small forward. He's a very hard player to match up on."

9. Harry Perryman
POS: Midfielder/half-forward, Ht 184cm, Wt 75kg, DOB 19/12/98
From Collingullie-GP/GWS Academy/NSW-ACT
Pelchen says: "He's not as pretty to watch as others but he's just so efficient in what he gets done. He uses the ball extremely well and he's exactly what the Giants need – guys who can play one-on-one football."

10. Will Brodie
POS: Midfielder, Ht 189cm, Wt 82kg, DOB 23/8/98
From Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "He's a very competitive kid and he's someone we rate highly as a person. Will's a very safe selection. He's very disciplined in the way he approaches his game and he's meticulous in the way he prepares for his football."

11. Jy Simpkin
POS: Half-forward/midfielder, Ht 181cm, Wt 71kg, DOB 5/3/98
From Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "He's dynamic and he does catch your eye. Despite breaking his leg early in the season, he plays his footy with real spirit and he's a guy that doesn't get caught often because he uses the footy so quickly and efficiently."

12. Tim English
POS: Ruckman/tall forward, Ht 204cm, Wt 86kg, DOB 10/8/97
From South Fremantle/Western Australia
Pelchen says: He's a difficult one to place because he's such a raw talent. At 204cm, to have that sort of agility and ground coverage means he's a very attractive option for clubs. Not many clubs choose ruckmen in the first round of the draft, but I think English will buck that trend."

13. Alex Witherden
POS: Half-back, Ht 189cm, Wt 79kg, DOB 10/9/98
From Geelong Falcons/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "The best is yet to be seen out of Alex and we've had to take his injury into account (a broken leg that wiped out his 2016 season). If he'd played the whole year he would have been even higher – he's just got such composure with the footy."

14. Jarrod Berry
POS: Midfield/half-back, Ht 191cm, Wt 80kg, DOB 5/2/98
From North Ballarat Rebels/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "He's a tough, rebounding defender and gets the footy and goes. To have the endurance level he's got means he's going to be able to play on talls and smalls. We really like the run and risk he plays with."

15. Oliver Florent
POS: Midfielder/Half-forward, Ht 183cm, WT 74kg, DOB 22/7/98
From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "A player who came up the order later in the year, like he did for most clubs. He can play in so many spots forward of centre, he's a very attractive option. It's getting more difficult to pick midfielders who can rest up forward and kick goals, but this guy can."

16. Griffin Logue
POS: Key defender, Ht 194cm, Wt 92kg, DOB 13/4/98
From Swan Districts/Western Australia
Pelchen says: "This is one lad, because he isn't a midfielder, who will attract a lot of interest. He's got such good athleticism. To run with the endurance at 194cm that he has, means that he'll be able to play on those modern day AFL star forwards."

17. Jordan Gallucci
POS: Midfielder, Ht 183cm, Wt 75kg, DOB 3/5/98
From Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "He gets varying opinions across clubs, but for us his athleticism means that you're really going to be able to mould this player into what you want. He can jump and he can run – he's a true athlete – and he'll be able to go forward, after stints in the midfield, and be a marking option."

18. Daniel Venables
POS: Midfielder/half-forward, Ht 186cm, Wt 81kg, DOB 19/11/98
From Western Jets/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "He's a player who's polarised opinions a little. His natural aggression is something that appeals to AFL clubs and his championships form was excellent. But he's had injuries so there is a little risk there. That ferocity at the footy won't leave you wondering what he's going to do."

19. Will Hayward
POS: Half-forward, Ht 186cm, Wt 76kg, DOB 26/10/98

From North Adelaide/South Australia
Pelchen says: "He is exciting because he can kick goals. As a forward, he's dangerous in the air and he's dangerous on the ground. He can rush his disposal a little bit but we wouldn't be surprised at all if someone picked him earlier because of his talent."

20. Jordan Ridley
POS: Tall defender, Ht 192cm, Wt 79kg, DOB 20/10/98
From Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "He's a bit higher than some clubs may have had him but he's a player who has real upside. Anyone who can kick the ball as well as Jordan, at his height, deserves this standing. He can play as a third tall defender or even on the wing if need be."
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This is really good , Bowes is definitely at the pointy end, Ridley I like in late 1st round

I'm massively bullish on Hayward so obviously disagree a little with his rating

Galluci a little high for mine and good positive view on Witherden who has the skill set for AFL footy and belongs around there

Interesting no Marshall

Also agree with McGrath at 1 and Scrimshaw top 5 prospect
 

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Footy prophets mock draft is finished, we end up with:

15 Will Hayward
49 Jacob Allison
57 Oscar Junker
65 Mitchell Hinge
87 Luke Strnadica
105 Ben Davis

Some new names to check out.
 
lunacy said:
Douglas was drafted by James Fantasia, how can you say Douglas is an example of the type we draft? There have been 2 different head recruiters since Douglas was drafted.
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Comment was in relation to the athletic testing at the combine ....and that we have typically placed a high weighting on testing

The fact there's been two different recruiters assumes that they make the sole decision .....there's a bloke called Stewart whose opinion is highly regarded
 
FAITH said:
Who is footy prophet? Would we be happy with hayward, is he what we need?
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He's my number 2 hope after Scrimshaw

So he's basically my number 1 realistic want

We won't get much out of him next year but I'm expecting big things long term ( mid/forward )

He's got a nice dose of nasty to go with his talent but needs weights room/ running track and self belief
 

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FAITH said:
Who is footy prophet? Would we be happy with hayward, is he what we need?
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Certainly wouldn't be unhappy with Hayward .....his elevation into potential top 10 calculations is based on club views that the 186cm can transition to the midfield

You simply don't take 186cm medium forwards in the top 10
 
marty36 said:
Especially Adelaide who are crying out for inside midfielders
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You could say the same of Gallucci .....but both he and Hayward are part of the 18 going to Sydney as potential top 10 selections

Just a qualifier on our need for an inside midfielder .....it is not a slow inside mid, which is why i am slightly puzzled that people have us bidding on Perryman ??
 
Captain Furious said:
Ok folks, this a second hand rumour that I can't verify (obviously) so take with a grain of salt but word is we're set to spring another (not as big as last year) surprise with Cedric Cox looking likely if projections fall as expected. Apparently we're into his mix of speed and kicking prowess and feel he has a ton of upside. Obviously there's others ranked above him but seems we rate him higher than a lot of names being bandied about.

To be honest, I hadn't really considered him before but looking into him, he was playing local footy at the start of the year, so has had virtually no time in a professional environment. Could have some sharp improvement and definitely has some x-factor.
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I watched some vision of him and really like his attack on the ball, a while ago someone on here mentioned that we were checking him out at a Ballarat game? Said we appeared keen. (he hasn't played a lot of footy, you mean like Charlie?)


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