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Analysis 2016 List Management Discussion
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He also had a boatload of draft picks. If you think that the list management team doesn't have contingencies for unlikely scenarios then you have a lowly opinion of them. Due diligence is vital
Due diligence is not taking the 'needs' or 'best available' angle too literally, just like we did last year. We have to rate the players first. I hear we were chasing Harry's brother with our fourth pick, until the Kangaroos chopped in before us. I think it's telling that we then didn't take someone like Collins with that pick, and went for a midfielder instead, especially since we went ahead and drafted a KPD with our first rookie choice.
It's about being creative and using the strengths of each draft to suit the picks we have. We haven't really done that before, we've been very rigid and single-minded.
It's about being creative and using the strengths of each draft to suit the picks we have. We haven't really done that before, we've been very rigid and single-minded.
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No. It was always Cuningham unless a Parish dropped down here.
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We took 3 talls... if either Harry or Charlie had gone before our relevant picks where we took them, then strategies change. When we got to (nominal) pick 19, we had addressed the talls situation with Jack still to come. The club needs outside run... we needed pace and Cuningham supplies it in droves.
Despite what Harks said... if an Oliver or a Parish had slide to pick 8, all bets would have been off.
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I agree, Parish and Oliver were seen as the only elite picks that were not academy picks, they were gone so made sense to go after a tall. The next non academy mid taken was Gresham at 18.
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Cale Hooker is a free agent after this season (and serves his CAS suspension)
Can't hurt to give his manager a call, quality player, especially as Jamo and Rowe are near the end, another KPD to help Weitering etc would be handy.
Can't hurt to give his manager a call, quality player, especially as Jamo and Rowe are near the end, another KPD to help Weitering etc would be handy.
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Computer says "**** no!"
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Yeah, go in hard, leave them sore.
Weideman would have got the nod ahead of McKay also.
Curnow was the bonus and Cuningham the icing on the cake.
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Thats the way that I look at it. I think that McKay would have still been there at 10... but the club wanted to nail down the bookends. Charlie with his indiscretion was less of a risk to be there with our third pick. And Cuningham, by the looks of the training vids, is a perfect counterpoint to Boekkie on the outside...
And then we had Jack, who at 191 is a fraction small to be a KPP, but I reckon that this year will see him grow another 4-5cm and get him to KPP height. He will also start filling out a bit as well. I'm sure that everyone who was around at the time remembers how skinny SOS was when he first started playing for the club... and then he filled out as well.
I really don't think that people realise how well the SOS kicked off our rebuild and it will be a couple of years down the track before the light over people's heads go bing and they suddenly realise how well we did.
To the best of my understanding, McKay would not have been there after our second as Adelaide were very keen on Harry.
There were some fun and games going around in regards to Adelaide but things worked out where we didn't miss on Curnow for taking McKay before him.
Had have we taken Curnow first McKay would not be with us now.
Can he be seen as an 8-year veteran when technically 2 of those years shouldn't count?
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Edit: just checking
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I doubt anyone's really thought about it... Seems to me it's not really reasonable...Apparently it does count
Love what we did at this years draft. Feel we got some real value for the picks we had.
Finally the club is playing the long game at the draft table.
Harry McKay could be anything, his still so young and raw. It's is looking good so far.
His already a beast of a kid and his only going to get bigger.
His deceptively quick and has a lovely left foot kick.
With some luck in a year or two he will be able to wheel around on his left and drill goals from outside 50
Buddy Franklin style.
From what I've seen of his brother Ben his nowhere near as natural a footballer.
His a right footer and looks a bit cumbersome and awkward.
Interesting that he gave up on footy for awhile because he felt that he couldn't break out from his brothers shadow.
Finally the club is playing the long game at the draft table.
Harry McKay could be anything, his still so young and raw. It's is looking good so far.
His already a beast of a kid and his only going to get bigger.
His deceptively quick and has a lovely left foot kick.
With some luck in a year or two he will be able to wheel around on his left and drill goals from outside 50
Buddy Franklin style.
From what I've seen of his brother Ben his nowhere near as natural a footballer.
His a right footer and looks a bit cumbersome and awkward.
Interesting that he gave up on footy for awhile because he felt that he couldn't break out from his brothers shadow.
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If we had gone Curnow at our second, and Adelaide did grab Harry, I could see us taking his brother with our third and still taking Cuningham with our 4th.
But it worked out, we got the brother that I wanted us to grab along with the other brother and ended up with SOSOS
Wins all round unless you are that Buckland idiot...
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HalAlaric mentioned this in the bluemour discussion thread... and I feel that it would be better discussed in here.
I think that we might be looking at, in the draft, getting 2-3 midfielders and using a late pick on a tall (the opposite of last year).
If we end up with pick 1 or 2, I can see us downgrade it for 2 first rounders (GWS possibly) and trading our second and third round picks to GC17 or BL for their first round picks.
The club has quite possibly identified the mids we want out of this years draft.
As for getting in more talls, I think that you are going to find that the club is going to look at using, as I said, a late draft pick on a good young tall player and then go to the rookie draft to see if we can score a couple more talls there.
But the emphasis this year is on midfielders.
I think that we might be looking at, in the draft, getting 2-3 midfielders and using a late pick on a tall (the opposite of last year).
If we end up with pick 1 or 2, I can see us downgrade it for 2 first rounders (GWS possibly) and trading our second and third round picks to GC17 or BL for their first round picks.
The club has quite possibly identified the mids we want out of this years draft.
As for getting in more talls, I think that you are going to find that the club is going to look at using, as I said, a late draft pick on a good young tall player and then go to the rookie draft to see if we can score a couple more talls there.
But the emphasis this year is on midfielders.
I think it's hard to predict what we'll do until after the season. They'll have a clearer picture of our needs once they have a clearer picture of how the current kids are going....but I agree, as of right now, midielders seem the priority.
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Bottom 4 (not in any order, will be Brisbane, Essendon, Us and Gold Coast) this season.
The Suns intrigue me, if as expected they lose O'Meara and Gablett has another injury plagued season, maybe we can try trade Gibbs and steak knives for Tom Lynch or perhaps trade for one their surplus talks like Peter Wright and hit draft for another skilled outside mid type.
If we were in Premiership contending mode, no way would we trade Gibbs, but we're not, and Tommy Boy could be the 'Lynch Pin' for our next premiership flag window (which Gibbs likely won't be)
The Suns intrigue me, if as expected they lose O'Meara and Gablett has another injury plagued season, maybe we can try trade Gibbs and steak knives for Tom Lynch or perhaps trade for one their surplus talks like Peter Wright and hit draft for another skilled outside mid type.
If we were in Premiership contending mode, no way would we trade Gibbs, but we're not, and Tommy Boy could be the 'Lynch Pin' for our next premiership flag window (which Gibbs likely won't be)
I was previously partial to the trade Gibbs argument but I'm not sure it's right to say he won't be a part of the next flag tilt. If you look at the Geelong/Hawks juggernaughts, they had plenty of key players in the 29-33 bracket. Gibbs has four more seasons before he hits 30, by which time we would hopefully be on the up again. Murphy/Gibbs in their early 30s could be crucial. I guess it depends how quickly they think we can turn it around.
Tom Lynch is one year younger than gibbs
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