2016 Non Crows AFL Discussion thread Part 2

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Lol someone on the port board mentioned getting pick 1 from Essendon for Hartlett.

 

[adelaidecrows]

How would that possibly affect you or the team? If that's their views and they're being sincere, then good on them. They're expressing their views in a way that doesn't harm anyone.

Disagree. On grand final day team comes first. Its the ultimate game. To do a protest tells their team mates their mind simply isnt in the game. The issue may be important to them and i respect that but its a grand final. Simply not the time or place.

 

[Geoffa32]

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I cringe any time I see the word "International" in the context of coffee....

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[Geoffa32]

How do you define "Powerful Players Union" .......what have they actually done, other than huff and puff?

Any time a player requests a club he what's to go to in a trade, they always end up there. The threat of PSD is moot now.

I tend to think there is an "invisible hand" with the Union's backing at play there.



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[WaynesWorld19]

Any time a player requests a club he what's to go to in a trade, they always end up there. The threat of PSD is moot now.

I tend to think there is an "invisible hand" with the Union's backing at play there.



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Need to remove the PSD ....players should not have that option ... Not needed nowadays

 

[Geoffa32]

Need to remove the PSD ....players should not have that option ... Not needed nowadays

The players have all the power when it comes to trading.

That is the work of their union.

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[WaynesWorld19]

The players have all the power when it comes to trading.

That is the work of their union.

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Disagree .... It's more the weakness of the clubs .... They buckle too easily & don't call the bluff for fear of supporter backlash

 

[Geoffa32]

Disagree .... It's more the weakness of the clubs .... They buckle too easily & don't call the bluff for fear of supporter backlash

Ever since Nick Stevens I can't recall a player not ending up at a club he nominates.


I would bet the AFL and clubs have some sort of gentleman's agreement to ensure that does not happen again. In fear of players striking and/or wanting more money.

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[Bicks]

How would that possibly affect you or the team? If that's their views and they're being sincere, then good on them. They're expressing their views in a way that doesn't harm anyone.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

He's proud of our anthem? Way to have low standards Buddy.

 

[MarcusP2]

Ever since Nick Stevens I can't recall a player not ending up at a club he nominates.


I would bet the AFL and clubs have some sort of gentleman's agreement to ensure that does not happen again. In fear of players striking and/or wanting more money.

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Think Ryan O'Keefe is the closest in that he wasn't traded at all.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Ever since Nick Stevens I can't recall a player not ending up at a club he nominates.


I would bet the AFL and clubs have some sort of gentleman's agreement to ensure that does not happen again. In fear of players striking and/or wanting more money.

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1. Want a trade to a club of YOUR choosing and mid contract .......you have a contract, we expect you to honor it .......play in the seconds if your hearts not in it ......should be contract payment components for AFL games v seconds games (like other incentives)

2. Want to break a contract .....you're being wooed by another club to break the contract and come to their club? ......ok the destination club must honor the contract PLUS pay the host club a breach of contract penalty, say 30% of the contract value over the term

 

[Geoffa32]

1. Want a trade to a club of YOUR choosing and mid contract .......you have a contract, we expect you to honor it .......play in the seconds if your hearts not in it ......should be contract payment components for AFL games v seconds games (like other incentives)

2. Want to break a contract .....you're being wooed by another club to break the contract and come to their club? ......ok the destination club must honor the contract PLUS pay the host club a breach of contract penalty, say 30% of the contract value over the term

What about players like Huston who were uncontracted and nominate a club after their initial contract ends.


We had to deal with Hawthorn even though other clubs may have wanted him and had more currency for us.


That is where it falls down and is weighted in the player's favour.


The reason all trading is in the player's favour is the strength of their union.

The hold up in the 2017 Salary Cap is them wanting more.


The game has moved too far in their favour.

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[WaynesWorld19]

What about players like Huston who were uncontracted and nominate a club after their initial contract ends.


We had to deal with Hawthorn even though other clubs may have wanted him and had more currency for us.


That is where it falls down and is weighted in the player's favour.


The reason all trading is in the player's favour is the strength of their union.

The hold up in the 2017 Salary Cap is them wanting more.


The game has moved too far in their favour.

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IMO you have to remove the threat of entering the PSD ......your contract finishes, you go back into the draft pool, if a suitable trade can't be completed with your desired club.

Problem is the thinking (amateurish) that clubs won't attempt to draft the players becuase he doesn't want to go to any other club .....this is what differentiated professional sport v amareurish still AFL

 

[Drewie11]

If anyone feels like having a good laugh, swing on over to the mud buttons board and read the Lobbe signs until 2019 thread. It's only 10 pages long but very, very entertaining.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Grand Final tomorrow .....if you haven't heard this pre match address ......worth a listen, spine tingling stuff

 

[Dixie Normous]

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If anyone feels like having a good laugh, swing on over to the mud buttons board and read the Lobbe signs until 2019 thread. It's only 10 pages long but very, very entertaining.

Lobbe looks Prince Harry and has the same work rate as him probably

 

[latinoheat]

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If anyone feels like having a good laugh, swing on over to the mud buttons board and read the Lobbe signs until 2019 thread. It's only 10 pages long but very, very entertaining.

Lol... Post 64 where it went from back slapping to reality that they had signed a dud for 4 years

 

[Drewie11]

Lol... Post 64 where it went from back slapping to reality that they had signed a dud for 4 years

Haha yeah they start to realise that they might have made a mistake. Then it works it's way to why didn't we take pick 11 and then right towards the end it is they will be lucky to get a 4th rounder.

So good

 

[WaynesWorld19]

 

[Mego Red]

And if Buddy is sincere in his views that's fair enough too.

Their beliefs don't impact me and I'm happy for them to act as they think they should.

Personally, even I think Australia Day is a bit suspect. I think the anthem doesn't have a color - but I can see why indigenous folks think Australia Day is a bit on the nose.

 

[jo172]

Very very strong argument Cramer was a bigger out than Ryder

Port will do well to crack the top 12 next year

 

[Mattrox]

I'm happy for them to act as they think they should.

I agree.

Mundine's statement seemed headline grabbing. But if he feels the need to boycott, that's up to him but to jump on the bandwagon of the #blacklivesmatter campaign against police shootings in the US seems to be insensitive and bandwagon-ish.

 

[Mego Red]

I agree.

Mundine's statement seemed headline grabbing. But if he feels the need to boycott, that's up to him but to jump on the bandwagon of the #blacklivesmatter campaign against police shootings in the US seems to be insensitive and bandwagon-ish.

This I agree with.

Mundine's words were more floggish from a USA perspective.

 

[SydCrow]

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