2017 Afl Draft

[HeHateMe]

How many list spots at this stage look like they need to be filled?

Priority Re-sign: Hardwick, Lovell, McEvoy, ORourke, Stewart, Sicily, OBrien, Ceglar.

Possible Retire: Gibson, Burgoyne, Hodge.

Possible Trade: Duryea, Hartung, Schoenmakers.

Possible Delist: Heatherley, Henderson, Willsmore.

Picks: 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th...

We may have to hit the draft 4 or 5 times. Luckily for us we have a number of Zone/FS selections to look at.

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[Lethal44]

How many list spots at this stage look like they need to be filled?

Priority Re-sign: Hardwick, Lovell, McEvoy, ORourke, Stewart, Sicily, OBrien, Ceglar.

Possible Retire: Gibson, Burgoyne, Hodge.

Possible Trade: Duryea, Hartung, Schoenmakers.

Possible Delist: Heatherley, Henderson, Willsmore.

Picks: 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th...

We may have to hit the draft 4 or 5 times. Luckily for us we have a number of Zone/FS selections to look at.

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Puopolo should be a trade option, I reckon your being harsh on Henderson, he's been more than serviceable this year.
Do you think Cousins will get upgraded also.
Might bite the bullet on O'Rourke if he can't get his body sorted by the end of the year.


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[HeHateMe]

Puopolo should be a trade option, I reckon your being harsh on Henderson, he's been more than serviceable this year.
Do you think Cousins will get upgraded also.
Might bite the bullet on O'Rourke if he can't get his body sorted by the end of the year.


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No your right, but i just used the list of un-signed players to compile the list.

Dont take it as rock solid.

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[Billyc]

Leaving trades aside:

Retire: Hodge, Gibson
Delist: Schoenmakers, Duryea, Willsmore
Upgrade: Cousins

I reckon we will give Henderson, Langford and Whitecross another year each. They will be delisted at the end of the next year. Age, not performance, will save Heatherley, O'Rourke and Hartung. But if they deliver nothing next year, they too will be gone.

Gives us 4 picks this year (all of them probably 40+ after Academy / F/S selections)

 

[Lethal44]

Leaving trades aside:

Retire: Hodge, Gibson
Delist: Schoenmakers, Duryea, Willsmore
Upgrade: Cousins

I reckon we will give Henderson, Langford and Whitecross another year each. They will be delisted at the end of the next year. Age, not performance, will save Heatherley, O'Rourke and Hartung. But if they deliver nothing next year, they too will be gone.

Gives us 4 picks this year (all of them probably 40+ after Academy / F/S selections)

Good read, but you would let Schoenmakers walk in free agency.
He is a first rounder, a premiership player and we are a bottom four side, the compensation should be decent.


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[Billyc]

Good read, but you would let Schoenmakers walk in free agency.
He is a first rounder, a premiership player and we are a bottom four side, the compensation should be decent.


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No club will want him.

 

[Hawk Dork]

We need depth

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Puopolo should be a trade option, I reckon your being harsh on Henderson, he's been more than serviceable this year.
Do you think Cousins will get upgraded also.
Might bite the bullet on O'Rourke if he can't get his body sorted by the end of the year.


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30 years old so I can't see anyone giving much for him.

 

[Hawk Dork]

30 years old so I can't see anyone giving much for him.

GWS gave up a fair bit for Deludio and he and Stevie J will need replacing

 

[Verhawk]

Good read, but you would let Schoenmakers walk in free agency.
He is a first rounder, a premiership player and we are a bottom four side, the compensation should be decent.


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Don't bet on this being kind to us even with our projected bottom 4 finish.
The AFL will spin some B/S reason for us getting maybe a 4th rounder if anything if Schoey walks.

 

[Hawk Dork]

I dont think you get compo if you get a FA as well as lose one

 

[Walshawk]

GWS gave up a fair bit for Deludio and he and Stevie J will need replacing

Poppy not even close to those two.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Poppy not even close to those two.

Never said he was

Value is determined by need

 

[Walshawk]

Burgoyne needs to retire. He has had quite a few good games but watching him on Saturday was sad - he simply could not get to contests. Next year this will happen much more frequently - like Gibbo this year.
Off - Hodge, Gibbo, Burgoyne, Wilsmore, Heatherlea, O'Rourke, Hartung, Shoe, Duryea, Henderson - most of these are poor decision makers but try to trade for upgraded draft picks.
On - Cousins + nine draftees.
Happy for us to bottom out next season. Start from scratch.

 

[Snoref]

Dont think 2 of the 3 of hodge, gibson or burgers can play on. Gibbo will finish this yesr and it up between hodge or burgers. Would rather 1 of them continue as losing all three will be too much experience missing

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Burgoyne needs to retire. He has had quite a few good games but watching him on Saturday was sad - he simply could not get to contests. Next year this will happen much more frequently - like Gibbo this year.
Off - Hodge, Gibbo, Burgoyne, Wilsmore, Heatherlea, O'Rourke, Hartung, Shoe, Duryea, Henderson - most of these are poor decision makers but try to trade for upgraded draft picks.
On - Cousins + nine draftees.
Happy for us to bottom out next season. Start from scratch.

9 draftees in a year we have **** all draft picks ?

 

[Bradkli]

9 draftees in a year we have **** all draft picks ?

It shows how bad the list currently is. There is no way anyone can argue. The list of players above is 100% correct. Not one of those players should be playing senior football next season. O'Rourke is unlucky but he's body is already cooked. You can't carry players that are always injured these days. Willsmore is 50/50 but looks to be a depth player at best.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

It shows how bad the list currently is. There is no way anyone can argue. The list of players above is 100% correct. Not one of those players should be playing senior football next season. O'Rourke is unlucky but he's body is already cooked. You can't carry players that are always injured these days. Willsmore is 50/50 but looks to be a depth player at best.

Not disagreeing with that, just saying we won't be able to get 9 players this draft.

 

[Walshawk]

9 draftees in a year we have **** all draft picks ?

It's only the first round we don't have a pick isn't it?

 

[Gralin]

It's only the first round we don't have a pick isn't it?

we are not picking up 9 players in the draft
between the draft, rookie draft (if they still have it will be interesting to see if it is phased out as part of the new CBA), trades and free agency we could make 9 list changes, but not just in the draft

We made 9 changes last year but they were not all from the senior list, and I don't see that happening this year, we've already lost Surman and I expect Fitz will go as well due to concussion.

That is two from the rookie list, to then add 10 from the senior list like your post did would be turning over 25% of the list in one year, it just wouldn't happen.

We have to delist/retire two to make the necessary draft picks, I expect more than two to go but not another 10

 

[HODGEYROAD]

It's only the first round we don't have a pick isn't it?

We have also traded our 2nd rounder for GWS 2nd rounder, so to use that many picks in a draft when our 1st pick isn't until 35 would be stupidity.

 

[Bumps"N"Grins]

We have also traded our 2nd rounder for GWS 2nd rounder, so to use that many picks in a draft when our 1st pick isn't until 35 would be stupidity.

You are right Hodgeyroad, to use nine picks solely in the draft starting with pick 35 would be stupidity but when using all avenues to turn over say nine players then mechanisms such as father son, academy, free agents, trade, draft and rookie listing, all make light work of the turn over.

 

[Dank You Steven]

I still reckon that Omeara is as good or better than everyone on this list.

Pick 4 in the draft:
2000 Luke Livingston
2001 Graham Polak
2002 Tim Walsh
2003 Farren Ray
2004 Richard Tambling
2005 Josh J. Kennedy
2006 Matthew Leuenberger
2007 Cale Morton
2008 Hamish Hartlett
2009 Anthony Morabito
2010 Andrew Gaff
2011 Will Hoskin-Elliott
2012 Jimmy Toumpas
2013 Marcus Bontempelli
2014 Jarrod Pickett
2015 Clayton Oliver
2016 Ben Ainsworth

Give me The Bont and Oliver at this point in time.

 

[threesixpio]

9 draftees in a year we have **** all draft picks ?

Have to clear space for Fyfe, Dusty, May, Lynch, Trengove, Kelly, Lever, Rocky and um Cousins!!

 

[Dank You Steven]

I'll just be happy when Chang Jaith is picked up with our 2nd rounder, the kid can play and he's exactly what we need, an athletic outside player with poise.





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