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Bicks said:
Taken from AFL Draft Central, for some reason their links don't work on here.

Pleased to see 2 players I rate very highly do well James Worpel & Brandon Starcevich, don't mind Lachie Fogarty either.

Matt Balmer's notes from the U18 Allstars game.



Scouting notes:

Team Enright:


#2 Lachlan Fogarty – Just gets to the right spots in the attacking half of the ground and is effective in getting the ball inside 50. Had a game-high seven inside 50s and again showed off his attacking flair. Is willing to tackle his opponents and pressure them at every moment.

#7 Brayden Ainsworth – Was effective in getting the ball out of the stoppages by hand and finished with seven clearances for the day. His pronounce influence was around the ground, compared with in at the centre bounces, but he was able to win the contested ball and was willing to work hard defensively.

#23 Nicholas Shipley – Linked up well on the outside and was often at the bottom of the packs attempting to win the ball. Had a few clearances and was able to have a few runs with ball in hand. More of a handball first, kick second player out of traffic.

#24 James Worpel – Was a beast at the centre bounces and didn’t show any signs of soreness after playing some six days before. By hand, he hardly missed a target – whipping the ball out from the centre bounces and clearing it to a teammate. He had a game-high five centre clearances and his contested ball winning was on show. Will be interesting to see where he ends up come November.

#26 Nick Coffield – Coffield is one of the best users of the football, by hand or foot. His burst of speed and efficiency makes him a highly touted top 10 prospect. His work rebounding the ball and kicking it long from either the kick outs or in defensive 50 were very good and he has been a big riser throughout season 2017.

#27 Oscar Allen – Despite hardly taking part in training on the Thursday before the game, the 2017 Larke medalist was a marking machine, pulling off seven for the game. Allen finished with 2.3 in front of goal – including the first goal for the day, but he was impressive overhead and was able to kick effectively for goal in set shot situations.

#32 Sam Hayes – Inside 50 Hayes was far too good for Connor Ballenden early in the contest and could’ve finished with three goals for the day had he kicked straight. He played majority of the game up forward with Lloyd Meek and Ned Reeves rucking – and it allowed him to show his strengths up forward clunking four marks for the day. Probably one of the few games where he has predominantly played up forward rather than sharing the ruck load.

Team Harvey:

#1 Brent Daniels – The zippy midfielder was able to win the football on the outside as one of the bigger ball winners (23 disposals) for Team Harvey. Daniels stoppage work was good around the ground and he was able to get to the hit-zone on multiple occasions. Bobbed up and booted a goal in the final quarter.

#5 Zac Bailey – Started well with five disposals in the opening term and was able to spread effectively from the stoppages. He used his agility well and was willing to work hard up and down the ground. He did have a few clangers by foot throughout the day, but it was a reasonable showing from the inside midfielder.

#6 Ryley Stoddart – While his return of 13 disposals doesn’t look large from the stats sheet, his effectiveness in the third term was huge when Team Harvey put the foot down. Stoddart used it very well going inside 50 and wasn’t afraid to throw out a fend off and back himself to use his agility to get around players.

#9 Lochie O’Brien – O’Brien finished the year with a bang – with one of his best games of the season with 24 disposals and seven marks. O’Brien was able to link up more in the attacking half of the ground and get the ball moving forward. Whilst he had a few ineffective kicks by foot – he was mostly clean and able to hit targets on his left foot. Possess a great burst of speed.

#22 Brandon Starcevich – One of the more impressive non-Victorian players in Saturday’s game, working through the midfield and getting it inside 50. Kicked a nice goal in the opening quarter, running around and snapping from a mark. An inside 50 kick in the second quarter was elite and he also possesses a long right foot kick. A player worth to go back and re-watch again throughout the Under 18 Championships.

#23 Jaidyn Stephenson – Stephenson’s second half of the season has been very good, transitioning from a third tall to an outside midfielder. Stephenson was adjudged best player on the ground, with 22 disposals, eight marks, five tackles, four inside 50s and four goals. Unlike some of his other games this year, Stephenson was largely effective by foot and there’s no doubt he’ll come into the thoughts of clubs such as North Melbourne and St Kilda.

#27 Aiden Bonar – Bonar was another exciting player who would’ve caught the eye of those watching. Bonar finished the year with his best performance, winning 20 disposals (11 contested) and five clearances. He was willing to throw his body around at the contest and was largely effective by hand – when he was tackled, often staying strong and was hard to be brought to ground.
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How many are from Vic metro compared to Vic County?

We should avoid Vic metro kids like the plague and back out player development in to advance country kids to become better players.
 
Ratkins said:
How many are from Vic metro compared to Vic County?

We should avoid Vic metro kids like the plague and back out player development in to advance country kids to become better players.
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Would have been even wiser to back player development on kids like Jack Graham last year and Ryan Burton the year before and they could have gone home all they wanted


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marty36 said:
Would have been even wiser to back player development on kids like Jack Graham last year and Ryan Burton the year before and they could have gone home all they wanted


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Why are you just posting this stuff for the very first time now?

You should have posted this over and over and over and over for the past 2 years to send some hints to Hamish.
 

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I_Was_There said:
I hope he has lots of 'issues' that makes him very unattractive to interstate recruiters!

Any of course, they are all magically resolved on draft day with Hamish reads out his name ;)
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I think it stands out like dogs balls that recruiters are seduced by the TAC comp when you see players like Graham get to 53 or Burton to 19

Unfortunately our recruiters are seduced by the overhyping


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Bicks said:
I've actually been quite impressed with Jarman in particular in the SA games I've streamed, I actually think he's a better than 50/50 chance to play AFL if we persist..
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Jarman may have actually had the best sanfl season of any of our 2016 draftees

And barely missed a game if any which is a good sign in his body and fitness
 

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Bicks said:
Taken from AFL Draft Central, for some reason their links don't work on here.

Pleased to see 2 players I rate very highly do well James Worpel & Brandon Starcevich, don't mind Lachie Fogarty either.

Matt Balmer's notes from the U18 Allstars game.



Scouting notes:

Team Enright:


#2 Lachlan Fogarty – Just gets to the right spots in the attacking half of the ground and is effective in getting the ball inside 50. Had a game-high seven inside 50s and again showed off his attacking flair. Is willing to tackle his opponents and pressure them at every moment.

#7 Brayden Ainsworth – Was effective in getting the ball out of the stoppages by hand and finished with seven clearances for the day. His pronounce influence was around the ground, compared with in at the centre bounces, but he was able to win the contested ball and was willing to work hard defensively.

#23 Nicholas Shipley – Linked up well on the outside and was often at the bottom of the packs attempting to win the ball. Had a few clearances and was able to have a few runs with ball in hand. More of a handball first, kick second player out of traffic.

#24 James Worpel – Was a beast at the centre bounces and didn’t show any signs of soreness after playing some six days before. By hand, he hardly missed a target – whipping the ball out from the centre bounces and clearing it to a teammate. He had a game-high five centre clearances and his contested ball winning was on show. Will be interesting to see where he ends up come November.

#26 Nick Coffield – Coffield is one of the best users of the football, by hand or foot. His burst of speed and efficiency makes him a highly touted top 10 prospect. His work rebounding the ball and kicking it long from either the kick outs or in defensive 50 were very good and he has been a big riser throughout season 2017.

#27 Oscar Allen – Despite hardly taking part in training on the Thursday before the game, the 2017 Larke medalist was a marking machine, pulling off seven for the game. Allen finished with 2.3 in front of goal – including the first goal for the day, but he was impressive overhead and was able to kick effectively for goal in set shot situations.

#32 Sam Hayes – Inside 50 Hayes was far too good for Connor Ballenden early in the contest and could’ve finished with three goals for the day had he kicked straight. He played majority of the game up forward with Lloyd Meek and Ned Reeves rucking – and it allowed him to show his strengths up forward clunking four marks for the day. Probably one of the few games where he has predominantly played up forward rather than sharing the ruck load.

Team Harvey:

#1 Brent Daniels – The zippy midfielder was able to win the football on the outside as one of the bigger ball winners (23 disposals) for Team Harvey. Daniels stoppage work was good around the ground and he was able to get to the hit-zone on multiple occasions. Bobbed up and booted a goal in the final quarter.

#5 Zac Bailey – Started well with five disposals in the opening term and was able to spread effectively from the stoppages. He used his agility well and was willing to work hard up and down the ground. He did have a few clangers by foot throughout the day, but it was a reasonable showing from the inside midfielder.

#6 Ryley Stoddart – While his return of 13 disposals doesn’t look large from the stats sheet, his effectiveness in the third term was huge when Team Harvey put the foot down. Stoddart used it very well going inside 50 and wasn’t afraid to throw out a fend off and back himself to use his agility to get around players.

#9 Lochie O’Brien – O’Brien finished the year with a bang – with one of his best games of the season with 24 disposals and seven marks. O’Brien was able to link up more in the attacking half of the ground and get the ball moving forward. Whilst he had a few ineffective kicks by foot – he was mostly clean and able to hit targets on his left foot. Possess a great burst of speed.

#22 Brandon Starcevich – One of the more impressive non-Victorian players in Saturday’s game, working through the midfield and getting it inside 50. Kicked a nice goal in the opening quarter, running around and snapping from a mark. An inside 50 kick in the second quarter was elite and he also possesses a long right foot kick. A player worth to go back and re-watch again throughout the Under 18 Championships.

#23 Jaidyn Stephenson – Stephenson’s second half of the season has been very good, transitioning from a third tall to an outside midfielder. Stephenson was adjudged best player on the ground, with 22 disposals, eight marks, five tackles, four inside 50s and four goals. Unlike some of his other games this year, Stephenson was largely effective by foot and there’s no doubt he’ll come into the thoughts of clubs such as North Melbourne and St Kilda.

#27 Aiden Bonar – Bonar was another exciting player who would’ve caught the eye of those watching. Bonar finished the year with his best performance, winning 20 disposals (11 contested) and five clearances. He was willing to throw his body around at the contest and was largely effective by hand – when he was tackled, often staying strong and was hard to be brought to ground.
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O'Brien best game of year by country mile and looked like his potential finally

Bonar is good , like him
 
Jeffcrowe said:
Anyone see the curtain raiser on Saturday ?

Updating my top 15 - feeling a bit more clear after last few weeks

Rayner
Stephenson
Hayes
Davies-Uniake
Dow
Cerra
Brander
Constable
Higgins
Coffield
H Clarke
D Fogarty
O'Brien
Bonar
Brayshaw



Hope so !!!!
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Bonar really impressed on Saturday, didn’t he Jeff? He’s up to 13 for mine now, too

Still would have Brayshaw higher than that - definitely has shades of Cotchin I reckon. Was played a lot out of position on Saturday

LOB’s an interesting one, I can see him potentially becoming a Gaff-type (maybe not as much of an accumulator)? That’s a pretty damn good player, but his lack of defensive pressure really worries me

Starcevich and Bailey are another two that have really moved up, for mine
 
Danger in Texas said:
Bonar really impressed on Saturday, didn’t he Jeff? He’s up to 13 for mine now, too

Still would have Brayshaw higher than that - definitely has shades of Cotchin I reckon. Was played a lot out of position on Saturday

LOB’s an interesting one, I can see him potentially becoming a Gaff-type (maybe not as much of an accumulator)? That’s a pretty damn good player, but his lack of defensive pressure really worries me

Starcevich and Bailey are another two that have really moved up, for mine
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Yep that is definitely the risk with Lachie

But the movement , kick and general skill looked very good Saturday

Re Brayshaw - 15 is still highly rated but compared to others Just think he's a bit small and not overly blessed with weapons . He's clean and smart but so was James Aish so that's what worries me ( he will be clearly better than Aish)

Bailey is a top 35 possibly 25 , has a bit of jack Steven I reckon - powerful
 
Jeffcrowe said:
Yep that is definitely the risk with Lachie

But the movement , kick and general skill looked very good Saturday

Re Brayshaw - 15 is still highly rated but compared to others Just think he's a bit small and not overly blessed with weapons . He's clean and smart but so was James Aish so that's what worries me ( he will be clearly better than Aish)

Bailey is a top 35 possibly 25 , has a bit of jack Steven I reckon - powerful
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Brayshaw's 183cm - the same size as, say, a Matt Crouch. He'll be fine, he's got great footy smarts and skills for an inside mid, and is still hard at the contest, too

Yep can see that with Bailey - he's top 25 for mine
 
Bicks said:
I did tell you blokes a quite while ago Bonar and Starcevich were two that had really impressed me.
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Yep on the money Bicks - Starcevich is one that wasn't really on my radar until now. Hasn't really put up great numbers in the WAFL, compared to some others? Definitely seems to have greater upside, though
 
Bicks said:
Still no Worpel....:)

We saw on Saturday what happens in the big games when blokes aren't prepared to straight line the ball and go hard at every contest

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Worpel has been a favorite of mine for 2 years .......underrated, grossly, but it's still early days
 

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Bicks said:
Still no Worpel....:)

We saw on Saturday what happens in the big games when blokes aren't prepared to straight line the ball and go hard at every contest

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Wherever he is next year, I can see him having a SPP-like impact

Not sure of his ceiling, but he's the type of player you want to have on your team for sure. He's at 20 for mine
 
Any thoughts on SA boy Charlie Ballard?
Currently ranked a third rounder by most accounts but intriguing prospect: 195cm wingman seems to be in the Yeo mould from the footage I've seen. Clearly good aerially and from what I've read a good interceptor.
 
Bicks said:
It's not really still early days though, football is over bar the draft Combine and character testing, and I'm not too sure athletic traits in that environment tell us very much we aren't already aware of having seen them in action doing actual football. Personally I think the Draft Combine has just become a feel good PR exercise for the AFL, hell half the top end talent won't even be doing the athletic testing. The most important testing is the character testing IMO, and even then you can get it very wrong. i.e. who would have picked Leaver to be a douche?
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There always seems to be bolters in the last 4 weeks, as clubs leak their thoughts on certain players .......at this stage of his Draft Year, after all the footy was finished, Clayton Oliver was still ranked in the mid to high teens (the little porker)
 

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