LanceRomance
Brownlow Medallist
Ahead of Murph and Daisy?
-
Mobile App Discontinued
Due to a number of factors, support for the current BigFooty mobile app has been discontinued. Your BigFooty login will no longer work on the Tapatalk or the BigFooty App - which is based on Tapatalk.
Apologies for any inconvenience. We will try to find a replacement.
Analysis 2017 List Management Discussion - Part 3
- Thread starter zeeCFC
- Start date
- Tagged users None
🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.
- Status
Ahead of Murph and Daisy?
HBF
Flying Scotsman
- Sep 24, 2002
- 156,519
- 102,194
- AFL Club
- Carlton
Thats a fair point. Who knows how good he could have been had he been taught at an earlier age a better action.
LanceRomance
Brownlow Medallist
thylacine60
Post-Human
- Banned
- #9,154
no
Log in to remove this Banner Ad
- Aug 16, 2015
- 13,908
- 24,848
- AFL Club
- Carlton
- Other Teams
- Arsenal
At the start of last season a lot of posters were commenting that Boek was not a high possession getter, that he had never been a big ball winner.
It seemed the club set out to rectify this and by seasons end Blaine was getting a lot of the ball both at VFL and AFL.
If Blaine can increase his numbers then I’m very hopeful cunners can too. He has a better body for AFL and a better attitude.
I don’t think it’s a huge ask for him to get his avg possessions up to 20
Metalcrusher
A God Amongst The People
- Banned
- #9,156
Not leaving much wiggle room there ......
Daisy??????
thylacine60
Post-Human
- Banned
- #9,158
he's been ordinary for ever - his dad has vision of him in the birthing suite falling off the delivery table and missing the floor
My name geoff
Premiership Player
- Jul 2, 2015
- 4,523
- 6,097
- AFL Club
- Carlton
My understanding is that Casboult had relatively good set shot goal kicking efficiency as a junior mainly due to him being so dominant in the air, he was basically taking grabs in the goal square. Or so the legend goes..
- Feb 11, 2015
- 5,245
- 8,902
- AFL Club
- Carlton
Must've caught him. A chip off the old block.
The genes seem strong in this family.
- Sep 30, 2014
- 1,892
- 3,366
- AFL Club
- Carlton
As per article on afl.com...from champion data
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-01-16/revealed-the-afls-most-talented-list
Like to know how they base that.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-01-16/revealed-the-afls-most-talented-list
Like to know how they base that.
Last edited by a moderator:
"Champion Data compares players in the same position and age categories over a number of years to give each a relative rating, which then determines the strength of a club's list."
That's how they do it.
They're comparing players with similar ages and positions against each other using their huge number of metrics, most of which aren't available to the general public... we only get to see the basic stuff outside of when the commentators drop obscure stats mid-game or when Kingy get's in the lab...
Remember not so long ago when CD announced that Collingwood had the best midfield in the comp? It's a similar thing... they're not looking at the mids in the best 22, they're looking at the sum of all the midfielders on the list.
When you look at our list demographic it's not surprising that we land down the bottom. We've got 8 players yet to debut, they effectively amount to nothing as there is no data on them. There's another 11 with less than a full season under their belt who are still finding their feet. 27 players have yet to notch 50 games. That's part of the reason why they're calling us last on overall list ranking but somewhat higher for 22 (as Freo is last). Then again, we all know what most media/pundits best 22s are like so who knows who they've decided makes the cut for that. Or perhaps it's simply the 22 statistically highest rated players on the list who make the cut.
I don't really have an issue with the premise of the article per say, or the way the stats are used in the study. My big issue is the way afl.com.au are taking those results and implying that they indicate talent, which isn't what those stats explicitly show - it's a combination of talent/ability and experience across a list.
Looking forward (not) to a Sydney/PA GF.
ferrisb
Brownlow Medallist
Levi's mum hired Sav as a midwife for the next baby....
- Mar 1, 2005
- 7,766
- 15,778
- AFL Club
- Carlton
- Other Teams
- carlton
Surely a C section would be much easier and less traumatic
Last edited:
- Jun 4, 2016
- 14,593
- 45,345
- AFL Club
- Carlton
Talent is not really quantifiable so a statistical analysis of the most talented list is kind of pointless really. All that tells me is that some clubs have players/ groups of players with better performances under their belts than others. Not much about potential or talent.
How many kids we have that havent fully developed is always going to hurt you on champion data dont even read i to it
On [device_name] using BigFooty.com mobile app
CD provided output stats to the AFL and that Schmook guy who wrote the article decided those numbers illustrated talent instead. Or perhaps he knew it'd spark some debate and get more traffic across the piece so he deliberately penned a piece that would get a rise out of supporters?
Kerridge has nothing on SPS as far as talent, but overall his average output this year from a basic/raw statistical perspective was higher. Samo played some great footy this year but he also came off an interrupted preseason, not ideal for a debut season, and while he was huge some weeks he also had maybe half a dozen quiet games (round 10) and another half a dozen fairly average games. The rest where good to great (round 7...) but he was hardly consistent.
Kerridge's output varied a bit over the season but not nearly as much as Samo's. That's a big part of why he's rated higher than Samo. This year that should swing the other way as Samo improves his tank and week to week consistency. Get rid of those 'bottom 6' worth of games (ie 4 disposals against Richmond in round 11) and I reckon his rating goes up a solid 20%. If he can worth the next 6 'pretty average' games out he's probably pushing 40-50% higher than he is currently. He'll still have a few stinkers & average games but you'd also think his ceiling should go up this year too... it's gonna be fun watching all the pieces fall into place for him over the next couple of years.
🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.
ferrisb
Brownlow Medallist
Thy-esque post is Thy-esque
thylacine60
Post-Human
- Banned
- #9,173
I can't work like this.....
- Aug 16, 2015
- 13,908
- 24,848
- AFL Club
- Carlton
- Other Teams
- Arsenal
Does anyone have any word on the type of team we will be fielding for this AFLX crap?
I would hate to see an important player go down with injury but wonder if the club want to try and use the comp for some exposure.
I would hate to see an important player go down with injury but wonder if the club want to try and use the comp for some exposure.
- Status
Similar threads
