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Analysis 2017 List Management Discussion Part II

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Looking back at the trade we did with the crows for Menzel, barring some miracle game from Troy this weekend, I think it's safe to say that it has been another big win for SOS' trade this year..

In:
686 disposals, 216 marks, 120 tackles, 10 goals

Out:
38 disposals, 10 marks, 13 tackles, 4 goals

In fact if we go one step further and look at our total player in/out vs the Crows, the output doesn't look as bad as some may think..

In:
1302 disposals, 356 marks, 247 tackles, 46 goals

Out:
614 disposals, 157 marks, 138 tackles, 59 goals,
 
His VFL form DD. He has had a couple where he has kicked 4 goals and has dominated some other games as a CHF. He's 23 y.o, has good skills and obviously a poor attitude. My view is some young blokes take a long time to mature, so give him every chance. If he doesn't, then so be it. But he has the skills and attributes so I reckon one year more won't hurt; particularly when there are a lot more before him to be culled.

In saying that, I'm 99% sure he will be cut.

I get the depth comment in regards to Graham, Boek, Smedts, Kerridge as we have all seen these guys at AFL level and know what we are going to get. Some have peaked and some are still improving but i don't see how its the same for KJ. The fact he has not had a call up at all this year is a real worry. If he gets 1 more year or demoted to a rookie spot then i trust the club but i don't see it happening.
 
Looking back at the trade we did with the crows for Menzel, barring some miracle game from Troy this weekend, I think it's safe to say that it has been another big win for SOS' trade this year..

In:
686 disposals, 216 marks, 120 tackles, 10 goals

Out:
38 disposals, 10 marks, 13 tackles, 4 goals

In fact if we go one step further and look at our total player in/out vs the Crows, the output doesn't look as bad as some may think..

In:
1302 disposals, 356 marks, 247 tackles, 46 goals

Out:
614 disposals, 157 marks, 138 tackles, 59 goals,

In isolation, we got reamed for:

Jacobs
Betts
Menzel

Let's not pretend otherwise.

What SOS did with the assets received from Menzel are what makes this look ok. Adelaide should still be considered winners if Menzel pulls the finger out though. Imagine what he could've been under Bolts.
 
In isolation, we got reamed for:

Jacobs
Betts
Menzel

Let's not pretend otherwise.

What SOS did with the assets received from Menzel are what makes this look ok. Adelaide should still be considered winners if Menzel pulls the finger out though. Imagine what he could've been under Bolts.

Jacobs - We wouldn't be saying that had have we taken Luke Parker and not McCarthy, but yes, we accepted unders.
Betts - If we did what Eddie says we did to him,............well, we better have got a little smarter.
Menzel - We didn't get reamed given the output and we did effectively get Kerridge, Plowman, Lamb & Phillips for him.
 
Looking back at the trade we did with the crows for Menzel, barring some miracle game from Troy this weekend, I think it's safe to say that it has been another big win for SOS' trade this year..

In:
686 disposals, 216 marks, 120 tackles, 10 goals

Out:
38 disposals, 10 marks, 13 tackles, 4 goals

In fact if we go one step further and look at our total player in/out vs the Crows, the output doesn't look as bad as some may think..

In:
1302 disposals, 356 marks, 247 tackles, 46 goals

Out:
614 disposals, 157 marks, 138 tackles, 59 goals,

Are you leaving out Eddie and Sauce on purpose so it doesn't look as bad? :)
 
Has to be Rowe we keep.

If Casboult moves on Rowe would be the prefect big body foil to play up forward to provide a bit of size and bulk.

Sam's 30 next year, don't know contract status is, and don't know how many more years he can give. Having returned from a knee reconstruction, big Sammy would have trouble turning around in the forward line, as apposed straight line in defence.
May take most of the season to get his confidence back?
 

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In isolation, we got reamed for:

Jacobs
Betts
Menzel

Let's not pretend otherwise.

What SOS did with the assets received from Menzel are what makes this look ok. Adelaide should still be considered winners if Menzel pulls the finger out though. Imagine what he could've been under Bolts.


We didn't get reamed on menzel at all and Betts left as a free agent
 
Jacobs - We wouldn't be saying that had have we taken Luke Parker and not McCarthy, but yes, we accepted unders.
Betts - If we did what Eddie says we did to him,............well, we better have got a little smarter.
Menzel - We didn't get reamed given the output and we did effectively get Kerridge, Plowman, Lamb & Phillips for him.

We also converted a late 1st rounder for a mid 1st rounder and got McKay
 
All living in fairy land Kelly is not coming to Carlton

He wont go to North nor will he the Saints.

He'll either be in Navy or he'll re-sign.
 
We also converted a late 1st rounder for a mid 1st rounder and got McKay

I usually note that but thought we had enough of a win, even without it. :)

Would have been interesting what may have come about without having upgraded that pick by 3 selections.

It's not out of the question that we may have missed on Curnow, but much more likely that we wouldn't have got McKay and if we didn't get Mckay?
Maybe Milera? Maybe Gresham? Burton? Not out of the question that we would have taken Cuningham earlier.
 

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Every time a player announces there retirement I cant but think that what those players are able to contribute is still significantly better than what we get from Daisy.. Not knocking Daisy here but if you were given the choice between going into next year with Luke Hodge, Nick Riewolt, Sam Mitchell, Matt Priddis, Stevie J, Matthew Boyd, Robert Murphy or Daisy... the decision is very easy.
Not the best way to assess if we should keep him on the list.
 
We also converted a late 1st rounder for a mid 1st rounder and got McKay
In 2 years time this is quite possible..

Crows:
Eddie (retired)
Sauce (retired)
Menzel (delisted)

Carlton:
Ed Curnow (29 y.o club leader)
Matty Wright (40 goal season)
Sam Kerridge (ave 30 disposals)
Lachie Plowman (all-Australian)
Jed Lamb (22 games)
Andrew Philips (back-up ruckman)
 
Menzel was traded because his dedication to AFL wasn't what it should be. You would think Carlton trading him would be a wake up call but he never responded. I actually think bolts would of been good for him to develop now his stuffed.
 
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