2017 trade/draft thread

[new breed]

Jarrad Schofield will get the Coaching group jumping and improving ...seems to be on our radar with rumoured big money offered .

 

[Godfather32]

Vozzo also confirmed that Simpson is on the recruitment committee

 

[amazingjoshy]

Jarrad Schofield will get the Coaching group jumping ...

Hopefully brings Liam Ryan with him

 

[greatwhiteshark]

A month or so ago, someone on here wrote a very good post on how kicking can improve significantly once in the afl system. Ben Cousins was used as an example. In his junior days he'd push the ball down onto his boot, rather than guide it. On his left foot, it was even more pronounced. I think another couple of players were mentioned too. Whoever that poster was, point me in the right direction. That was a good read.

Like I said, there will always be odd individuals but as a collective there is little that can be done once they reach AFL level. Otherwise it would simple and they would teach them all to kick like Shannon Hurn right.

 

[former lurker]

It can be taught but it has to be done at an early age. It is simple mathematics that kids growing up now as a collective will not be as good kicks as kids growing up in the 70's. The number of times you would kick a footy growing up in the 70's compared to now could be 15-1 or upward of that.
It's pretty simple really, if you do something often enough you will get pretty good at it, kids today just don't kick a footy often enough for it to become elite. There will always be individuals who can but across the board it's near on impossible for a kid today to be a better kick than some one from the 70's growing up. Just plain and simple numbers.

I'm talking about timing, it can't be taught. You practice enough, you will become proficient. Timing is why some players can kick further than others. Not power.

 

[avishka5]

When I moved to Australia I had to learn the basic skills of the game by watching games and doing it my self as my parents had no clue about the game. Within a year of learning the game I had mastered the art of hand passing and kicking and handpassing on both sides of my body(eventually I became a left handed handballer). few years later my parents put me into junior footy and even though I was one of the worst players in the side, I was one of the better kicks and handballs on my opposite side.

I haven't played footy in ages and picked up the footy for the first time in a couple of years last week and even tho I was rusty at first, I hadn't lost my left foot kicking.


It's a bit sad that an immigrant kid could kick on his opposite but so many elite AFL players can't.

 

[15yearmember]

Did you also wear an onion on your belt because that was the style of the day?

I was undecided on an Avatar. Thanks for your help sonny.....

 

[twce13]

to be fair i doubt you were kicking under afl pressure

 

[new breed]

Peter Matera was the best on the other leg eg GF 40 - 50 metres out on the run no problems goal post height , Matera the best you will see .

 

[matt_bas]

Thought we would see some delistings yesterday

What do you think we did? Giles? That's the closest we will go to delisting

 

[dajesmac]

When I moved to Australia I had to learn the basic skills of the game by watching games and doing it my self as my parents had no clue about the game. Within a year of learning the game I had mastered the art of hand passing and kicking and handpassing on both sides of my body(eventually I became a left handed handballer). few years later my parents put me into junior footy and even though I was one of the worst players in the side, I was one of the better kicks and handballs on my opposite side.

I haven't played footy in ages and picked up the footy for the first time in a couple of years last week and even tho I was rusty at first, I hadn't lost my left foot kicking.


It's a bit sad that an immigrant kid could kick on his opposite but so many elite AFL players can't.

With all due respect Vishy that's a ridiculous post. Just cause you can still kick in a straight line on your left in kick to kick doesn't mean you're better at it than any AFL player. Considering how little time they have to execute these kicks it's a silly comparison. I'm sure they can all happily kick on their opposite foot off one step to a stationary, 25m target.

 

[Obeanie1]

My opinion of Motlop has gone up after this finals series.
Master and Schofield for Motlop please.


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Motlop was definately playing as it was his last few games in Cats colours, also to get a d2cent pay rise. He played well inthe last two finals, one of the few Cats who showed pace and dare I mention it.......swervability.

Ive been saying we should look at him as FA pickup, he would definitely improve our midfield and ability to move the ball up field.

Id rate him ahead of Rockliff as he is yonger, not coming off a shoulder reco and has the traits we need.

 

[mick06]

With all due respect Vishy that's a ridiculous post. Just cause you can still kick in a straight line on your left in kick to kick doesn't mean you're better at it than any AFL player. Considering how little time they have to execute these kicks it's a silly comparison. I'm sure they can all happily kick on their opposite foot off one step to a stationary, 25m target.

Have you watched the eagles train? Its actually scary how often players are scrambling off for the ball in the warm up kick to kick. Whether they are just being lazy or not... but fm poor attitudes even in warm ups easily push through

 

[bh90210fan]

Motlop was definately playing as it was his last few games in Cats colours, also to get a d2cent pay rise. He played well inthe last two finals, one of the few Cats who showed pace and dare I mention it.......swervability.

Ive been saying we should look at him as FA pickup, he would definitely improve our midfield and ability to move the ball up field.

Id rate him ahead of Rockliff as he is yonger, not coming off a shoulder reco and has the traits we need.

He's not an A grader though, but would probably have an A grader price tag which would make it a no for me

 

[bh90210fan]

Peter Matera was the best on the other leg eg GF 40 - 50 metres out on the run no problems goal post height , Matera the best you will see .

Watch some footage of Darren Jarman kick, poetry in motion

 

[avishka5]

With all due respect Vishy that's a ridiculous post. Just cause you can still kick in a straight line on your left in kick to kick doesn't mean you're better at it than any AFL player. Considering how little time they have to execute these kicks it's a silly comparison. I'm sure they can all happily kick on their opposite foot off one step to a stationary, 25m target.

How disrespectful dude. I was 50m out and hitting campaigners on the tit while manoeuvring around around an enthusiastic Labrador.

Tho my torpedo kicking needs work. Shanked one so hard I nearly hit a sleeping baby on the other side of the park.

 

[Matera92]

Peter Matera was the best on the other leg eg GF 40 - 50 metres out on the run no problems goal post height , Matera the best you will see .

Damn right, was supernaturally balanced.

Shuey of our modern group is the best at it, can easily go either side.

 

[darksquare]

Drawing a long bow here but whatever I feel like having some fun


Somebody recently posted that nizzy was recently seen having coffee with hogan. Got me thinking that it wouldn't be the worst idea to trade jk if we could in fact obtain somebody like hogan plus a midfielder. Would kind of fix our needs both short and long term. A team like geelong would be interested because they need somebody better than Hawkins to win it next year. Anyways I got super carried away...


Geelong

In:

Kennedy, GAJ, picks 43,45,57

Out:

Picks 20, 34, 2018 first and second rounder, motlop, Duncan,Hawkins


Gold Coast

In:

masten, wellingham, motlop, Duncan, schofield

Out:

GAJ, picks22,24,33,37


Saints:

In:

Gaff, lamb

Out:

Pick 7, 43,57


Melbourne:

In:lycett, Hawkins, pick 13,37,48 geelong 2018 second rounder,

Out:

Hogan, pick 45


West coast:

In:

Hogan, pick 7, 22,20,24,33,34, and geelongs 2018 first,

Out:

Kennedy, Schofield, Gaff, Lycett, lamb, wellingham, pick 13,48


We go to draft with:


7, 22,20,24,30,33,34,


We get a long term Kennedy replacement


We get an extra first rounder for next year


Obviously this will never happen but in theory is this fair?

That's about 8 times as many trades as we'll see in the entire trade period!


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[BartBart]

Damn right, was supernaturally balanced.

Shuey of our modern group is the best at it, can easily go either side.

Is that a post talking about yourself in the 3rd person?

 

[Obeanie1]

He's not an A grader though, but would probably have an A grader price tag which would make it a no for me

$600k pa isnt top dollar these days. The average with the new cap is $379k pa.

$600k is about what the bottom end of what A grade talent get paid these days.

The Shueys would be on $700/750k and the elite get $1m a year.

 

[dajesmac]

How disrespectful dude. I was 50m out and hitting campaigners on the tit while manoeuvring around around an enthusiastic Labrador.

Tho my torpedo kicking needs work. Shanked one so hard I nearly hit a sleeping baby on the other side of the park.

Don't pretend you weren't aiming for it

 

[wraglesweb]

I think it's about time I take over the recruiting for the Eagles look at my success in the phantom drafts

 

[Matera92]

Is that a post talking about yourself in the 3rd person?

Meant P. Matera

But yes, I was gods gift until I did a knee, then hit the piss

 

[WCErevival]

What do you think we did? Giles? That's the closest we will go to delisting

We delist players every year. Turns out they are waiting until after trade period before we do it

 

[ArdentEagle]

I think it's about time I take over the recruiting for the Eagles look at my success in the phantom drafts

I'm curious - Post your history for the last 5 years mate.