2017 trade hypothetical thread

[aussierulesrules]

I think Carlton days no. The top 3 are pretty desirable.

How else are they getting Kennedy though? They supposedly don't want to use their 2018 2nd and pick 40 isn't enough for him. What other options do they have but downgrading 3?

 

[SexyBlueGirl]

And if you want something, dont ask for everything.
A lesson SOS has to learn.

Are we going to discuss Carlton missing out on the players they wanted?

Is SOS going to get credit for playing hardball on those too?

We already have Gibbs. Seems to me you're the ones that want something.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Pick 19 (bullshit Motlop compo pick) to Gold Coast for Ablett, to Freo for Weller, to GWS for Wilson?

 

[VanDemonxx]

HOw would people feel about this 3-way trade?

Melbourne receive - Pick 21 (From GCS)

Port receive - Jack Watts (from MELB)

Gold Coast receive - Aaron Young (from Port), Pick 31 (From Port), Pick 65 (From MELB)

 

[Suma Magic]

How else are they getting Kennedy though? They supposedly don't want to use their 2018 2nd and pick 40 isn't enough for him. What other options do they have but downgrading 3?

If they were downgrading 3 I think they could get a better deal.

I think they will trade 2018 second in the end.

 

[Moist Biscuit]

Pick 19 (bullshit Motlop compo pick) to Gold Coast for Ablett, to Freo for Weller, to GWS for Wilson?

19 for Weller? No thanks.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

19 for Weller? No thanks.

From Freo's point of view it's a straight swap for Wilson.

Both quality young halfbacks who are under contract and want to go home.

 

[Moist Biscuit]

From Freo's point of view it's a straight swap for Wilson.

Both quality young halfbacks who are under contract and want to go home.

Weller is 3 years younger and putting up similar numbers every week. Wilson will be 25 next year, he's not young.

 

[Scotty_222]

HOw would people feel about this 3-way trade?

Melbourne receive - Pick 21 (From GCS)

Port receive - Jack Watts (from MELB)

Gold Coast receive - Aaron Young (from Port), Pick 31 (From Port), Pick 65 (From MELB)

We dont want picks we wont use..

Could do the Young trade independent of Port and Melbourne trade.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Weller is 3 years younger and putting up similar numbers every week. Wilson will be 25 next year, he's not young.

Fair enough. If the Suns sent you 39 as well would that even it up?

 

[DangerSloane]

We already have Gibbs. Seems to me you're the ones that want something.

Keep him. He's absolutely no good to you. Poor bloke will prob retire.
What's he played like 2 finals in his whole career?
What a shame getting drafted to the biggest basket-case of the century. Wasted talent.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Pick 19 (bullshit Motlop compo pick) to Gold Coast for Ablett, to Freo for Weller, to GWS for Wilson?

No.

The Cats' No.19 selection is unlikely to be used on Melbourne forward Jack Watts.

Geelong had a list management meeting on Monday morning but Wells did not expect the club's position to change.

"We had good interest in Jack Watts but we just didn't think we could do a deal with Melbourne. Clearly we've got more to deal with now but … I think right now, we'd be holding on to pick No.19 rather than trading it to Melbourne for Jack Watts," Wells said.

The Cats also have No.22, acquired last year in the trade with Carlton for Zach Tuohy. Not that it is going anywhere.

"I think we'd be holding on to that one too," Wells said.

 

[DangerSloane]

No.

The Cats' No.19 selection is unlikely to be used on Melbourne forward Jack Watts.

Geelong had a list management meeting on Monday morning but Wells did not expect the club's position to change.

"We had good interest in Jack Watts but we just didn't think we could do a deal with Melbourne. Clearly we've got more to deal with now but … I think right now, we'd be holding on to pick No.19 rather than trading it to Melbourne for Jack Watts," Wells said.

The Cats also have No.22, acquired last year in the trade with Carlton for Zach Tuohy. Not that it is going anywhere.

"I think we'd be holding on to that one too," Wells said.

Smart.
Geelong know a lot about not recruiting 2nd rate players. They're always very shrewd around the table.

 

[Moist Biscuit]

Fair enough. If the Suns sent you 39 as well would that even it up?

Na I'd be looking to move from 5 to 2 as part of the deal.

 

[SexyBlueGirl]

Keep him. He's absolutely no good to you. Poor bloke will prob retire.
What's he played like 2 finals in his whole career?
What a shame getting drafted to the biggest basket-case of the century. Wasted talent.

Do you realise how bitter you sound.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

No.

The Cats' No.19 selection is unlikely to be used on Melbourne forward Jack Watts.

Geelong had a list management meeting on Monday morning but Wells did not expect the club's position to change.

"We had good interest in Jack Watts but we just didn't think we could do a deal with Melbourne. Clearly we've got more to deal with now but … I think right now, we'd be holding on to pick No.19 rather than trading it to Melbourne for Jack Watts," Wells said.

The Cats also have No.22, acquired last year in the trade with Carlton for Zach Tuohy. Not that it is going anywhere.

"I think we'd be holding on to that one too," Wells said.

So how does the Ablett deal get done?

 

[DangerSloane]

Do you realise how bitter you sound.

Why would I be bitter?
Its just simple logic that you're losing any value that Gibbs has every minute that goes by.

If you want to keep him to retirement that's fine, but you get no value for him then, given you're nowhere near a premiership.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

So how does the Ablett deal get done?

This is what amuses me, all throughout this week or so opposition fans have mooted trades for picks and suggested what was originally pick 20 and now also pick 19 could/should go there. They made it clear very early on they want an established player, we gave them a list of players to choose from and yet they focused on pie-in-the-sky ambit claims of Cockatoo and Duncan which just wastes time.

So far every other player they've enquired about has refused to be traded north so we're at a stalemate but picks are still off the table, as far as we're concerned 19 or 22 is overs, and it is for a player his age and with less than 40 games left in him you'd think. Pick 35 on the other hand is useless to them

We may need a 3rd club, I liked the idea of Port, we give them a pick and they send Young to GC but we'll see, both clubs have put off talks until Thursday out of respect to the Ablett family.

 

[SexyBlueGirl]

Why would I be bitter?

Maybe because your inept trading last year potentially cost you a flag? haha

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

We may need a 3rd club, I liked the idea of Port, we give them a pick and they send Young to GC but we'll see, both clubs have put off talks until Thursday out of respect to the Ablett family.

That was my thinking in linking it to them getting Weller.

 

[Jeremias]

Keep him. He's absolutely no good to you. Poor bloke will prob retire.
What's he played like 2 finals in his whole career?
What a shame getting drafted to the biggest basket-case of the century. Wasted talent.

How can you possibly post the above and claim you're not bitter and/or upset about the situation?

You're having more of a sook than your club did last trade period, and I thought that would take some doing.

It's been explained to you countless times that the statement "he's absolutely no good to you" couldn't be further from the truth. You know saying it ad nauseum doesn't make it true, right?

 

[DangerSloane]

Na I'd be looking to move from 5 to 2 as part of the deal.

Does Freo have a target at that high end?
Is there a WA kid who they have looked at? Or you just spit balling?

 

[DangerSloane]

How can you possibly post the above and claim you're not bitter and/or upset about the situation?

You're putting in a better sook than your club did last trade period, and I thought that would take some doing.

It's been explained to you countless times that the statement "he's absolutely no good to you" couldn't be further from the truth. You know saying it ad nauseum doesn't make it true, right?

Im using logic, not emotion.
If I were a Carlton fan I would want a deal done ASAP.
Get a young kid and a first round pick in who might be there for the next tilt.

2 years time you end up with Gibbs a one-club player, but no better off?
Is it because we've taken some good Carlton players already? I dont see why the blow-back is so heavy on Gibbs. Its not like he's Luke Hodge type leadership material.

He is no good to you if you consider that winning a premiership is the only goal.
He isnt going to be there for the next one, I think that has been well established?
Thats what I mean by that statement, not that he cant play good footy for Carlton. I'm sure he can, but in the longer term a trade would suit Carlton (IMO of course).

A first and a young player would surely be appropriate compensation?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

That was my thinking in linking it to them getting Weller.

I just highly doubt we'll expend a pick 19 or 22 for a 33yo. GWS can afford to be cavalier with their picks but we can't, 14 years of by and large being one of the last dogs at the bowl on draft night and have traded away our last 3 first round picks, but did so for guys that were 25-26 at the time.

If we are going to spend 19 or 22 it won't be for Ablett. I think they're sitting and waiting to see if the Dons can't get a deal done for Stringer and it's probably why Watts hasn't nominated a club, he probably doesn't want to leave Victoria but his only Victorian option won't commit to him until we know what's happening with Stringer.

I'd only trade 19 for Ablett if we could get one of their picks in the 20's thrown back but that's unlikely with Cochrane in charge.

 

[Jeremias]

Im using logic, not emotion.

Then you're failing even harder. In reality there's no logic being applied to any of your posts in here - that much is very obvious.

He is no good to you if you consider that winning a premiership is the only goal.
He isnt going to be there for the next one, I think that has been well established?

I love it when this argument is raised, because it's a complete cop-out.

If there was any truth to that, there'd be a hell of a lot more trades going through than what we see every year.