List Mgmt. 2018 draft/Young Talent time

[Lach72]

Really interesting draft coming up for us with Carter in the sheds with probably the equivalent of a second round, a first round likely to be in the top ten, and a heap of top end talent including Lukosious, Rankine and Ian Hill.

This is one I actually wouldn't be surprised if we looked at trading our 2019 first for a 2018 first, especially if we finished bottom 6 again. ALthough it i hard to see Rankine and Lukosious going anything other than 1 and 2

 

[nurries]

Really interesting draft coming up for us with Carter in the sheds with probably the equivalent of a second round, a first round likely to be in the top ten, and a heap of top end talent including Lukosious, Rankine and Ian Hill.

This is one I actually wouldn't be surprised if we looked at trading our 2019 first for a 2018 first, especially if we finished bottom 6 again. ALthough it i hard to see Rankine and Lukosious going anything other than 1 and 2

The King twins might have a say in that

 

[Taylor]

We also have no free agents with which to secure new picks as they leave, just Sandi, Johnson, Ballantyne and Mundy qualifying I believe.

 

[theGav56]

We also have no free agents with which to secure new picks as they leave, just Sandi, Johnson, Ballantyne and Mundy qualifying I believe.

a few clubs could be forcing their FAs out the door. May be some interesting options available as a result.

Beyond the top end of the draft, how is it looking? Will we be hurt by the lack of mid range picks?

In terms of needs, what do we need?

 

[Unique Name]

Has anyone heard much about Medhat? He's our other academy player along with Carter but the club hasn't said much about him.

 

[Lach72]

a few clubs could be forcing their FAs out the door. May be some interesting options available as a result.

Beyond the top end of the draft, how is it looking? Will we be hurt by the lack of mid range picks?

In terms of needs, what do we need?

Gaff will be one of them I believe.

We still another key forward. I also think another running back is handy but Carter covers that.
The 2017 draft/trade covered just about every base.
I see the below leaving next year or 2019 at the latest:
Mundy (Brayshaw/Cerra/North/Crowden), Sandi (Darcy/Meek/Jones), Ballantyne (Switkowski/Matera), Johnson/Spurr (Logue/Ryan/Hughes/Wilson), Pearce/Sheridan (inanimate carbon rod), Apeness (Dixon/Cox), Grey (Crowden)
The other option is to lob our first pick 2018 and possibly 2019 for Hogan and a second.
Having Carter locked up gives us flexibility

 

[Freezin]

EF Dillon O'Reilly might work his way up the drafting boards in 2018, though he would need to grow a few more cm above his current 193cm to go first round I reckon as a KP forward.....though Freo do look well serviced in that area if their current guys fufill expectations....

 

[Hazelsnuts]

Gaff will be one of them I believe.

We still another key forward. I also think another running back is handy but Carter covers that.
The 2017 draft/trade covered just about every base.
I see the below leaving next year or 2019 at the latest:
Mundy (Brayshaw/Cerra/North/Crowden), Sandi (Darcy/Meek/Jones), Ballantyne (Switkowski/Matera), Johnson/Spurr (Logue/Ryan/Hughes/Wilson), Pearce/Sheridan (inanimate carbon rod), Apeness (Dixon/Cox), Grey (Crowden)
The other option is to lob our first pick 2018 and possibly 2019 for Hogan and a second.
Having Carter locked up gives us flexibility

If we can secure top end talent next year using our first pick - pick 5-10 what is our biggest need?
A key forward or someone like Ian Hill ?
Our mids look to be positioned well going forward so next year is either an elite wing/half back/forward- both Carter and Hill seem to fit the bill.
If Carter is equivalent to a second rounder then we have had a big win.
Next year is the last year to trade heavy using our pick in the top ten and future picks or draft for the premiership window that we hope will be open 2020 - 2024.
Just get a feeling that we are up to something knowing that the forward line- KPF is unresolved- maybe Dixon changes this or we have someone in play who will be an RFA in 2019?
Who could that be

 

[theGav56]

EF Dillon O'Reilly might work his way up the drafting boards in 2018, though he would need to grow a few more cm above his current 193cm to go first round I reckon as a KP forward.....though Freo do look well serviced in that area if their current guys fufill expectations....

He is a great potential target, but assuming we have a top pick may not be in the mix. Early days though.

The speed and skills of Hill and Carter excite me. Fits well with our recent drafting.

Will live pick trading be happening?

 

[fnerd]

Gaff will be one of them I believe.

We still another key forward. I also think another running back is handy but Carter covers that.
The 2017 draft/trade covered just about every base.
I see the below leaving next year or 2019 at the latest:
Mundy (Brayshaw/Cerra/North/Crowden), Sandi (Darcy/Meek/Jones), Ballantyne (Switkowski/Matera), Johnson/Spurr (Logue/Ryan/Hughes/Wilson), Pearce/Sheridan (inanimate carbon rod), Apeness (Dixon/Cox), Grey (Crowden)
The other option is to lob our first pick 2018 and possibly 2019 for Hogan and a second.
Having Carter locked up gives us flexibility

Yep i agree regarding gaff.
think it played a part in tbem trading their first for next year ,reckon hes gorn.
If they have an very average season (which think they will) it ll make me sick if they get a first round pick( ie after what would of been their first) for that soft c@#k
On us def will be interesting,really think we ll trade our 2019 first and reckon it ll be a great move.
Most areas covered except kpf. Hopefully young oreilly comes on board. Id be concentrating on natural fwds/goal kickers with perhaps a back up kpd

 

[Joao]

It will be interesting to see how this draft shapes up early in the season next year. They are always overrated this far out it seems.

Mostly interested in the KPF options. I think Lukosius will stay the course but would not be surprised to see the Kings fall and O'Reilly is a bit unknown at this point.

 

[Taylor]

The 16 year old hype is a bit of a curse, it is all based on the assumption that players develop and grow their game into their U18 year. They are expected to be better, but how do you quantify that for a guy getting 10-18 touches a game? Does he need to get another couple of kicks a match, does that even make a difference?

I would like to see what would happen if players could be drafted as an U17, unable to play for the AFL team for a year but in the draft pool. Would those players talked up this year would have been selected? The media ratings of them at this stage have zero skin in the game, there is no way for them to be held to account over it. We don't know whether that underage form is actually worthy of a top ten pick.

Especially with the talls, U18s will separate the tall skinny twigs from the beefed up athletes. Guys like Rankine look golden but I wouldn't be willing to call his career prospects yet.

 

[M_rash]

H
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Make it happen

 

[yyou]

Gaff will be one of them I believe.

We still another key forward. I also think another running back is handy but Carter covers that.
The 2017 draft/trade covered just about every base.
I see the below leaving next year or 2019 at the latest:
Mundy (Brayshaw/Cerra/North/Crowden), Sandi (Darcy/Meek/Jones), Ballantyne (Switkowski/Matera), Johnson/Spurr (Logue/Ryan/Hughes/Wilson), Pearce/Sheridan (inanimate carbon rod), Apeness (Dixon/Cox), Grey (Crowden)
The other option is to lob our first pick 2018 and possibly 2019 for Hogan and a second.
Having Carter locked up gives us flexibility

But the burning question is:
Did we in fact attain an inanimate carbon rod?

 

[Hazelsnuts]

H
O
G
A
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Make it happen

I’m with ya moot rash

 

[IAMJUNGLEMUFFIN]

The 16 year old hype is a bit of a curse, it is all based on the assumption that players develop and grow their game into their U18 year. They are expected to be better, but how do you quantify that for a guy getting 10-18 touches a game? Does he need to get another couple of kicks a match, does that even make a difference?

I would like to see what would happen if players could be drafted as an U17, unable to play for the AFL team for a year but in the draft pool. Would those players talked up this year would have been selected? The media ratings of them at this stage have zero skin in the game, there is no way for them to be held to account over it. We don't know whether that underage form is actually worthy of a top ten pick.

Especially with the talls, U18s will separate the tall skinny twigs from the beefed up athletes. Guys like Rankine look golden but I wouldn't be willing to call his career prospects yet.

They used to have bottom agers in the draft, but changed the rules.

I remember hearing a few underagers suggested for late ND or even rookie picks that ended up going 1st quite high in the 1st round for their final year. I remember thinking why didn't more clubs gamble on bottom agers, but can understand why with puberty making it essentially a lottery.

Obviously it's significantly more speculative the younger you ho

 

[Bigtrev41]

Astounded we have so many guys over 30 still - not many draft picks in the bank! Come on down live trading/midseason draft.

 

[Joao]

Astounded we have so many guys over 30 still - not many draft picks in the bank! Come on down live trading/midseason draft.

We have 6 over 30. I think there is a reasonable chance that 5 are retired/delisted at the end of 2018 (Mundy remains). Assuming no other delistings I am sure we can find 4-6 draftees to replace them. We took 8 in the ND with only two picks below 59 this year. It will be fine.

Edit: 3 picks sub 60

 

[M_rash]

We have 6 over 30. I think there is a reasonable chance that 5 are retired/delisted at the end of 2018 (Mundy remains). Assuming no other delistings I am sure we can find 4-6 draftees to replace them. We took 8 in the ND with only two picks below 59 this year. It will be fine.

Huge Dixon says hello from 42?

 

[Joao]

Huge Dixon says hello from 42?

Yeah typo - did post that at 3 in the morning.

 

[Bastyy]

Izak Rankine is more than definitely the number 1 player in the draft at the moment (I've heard Max King as well).

Lukosius, M King, B King and O'Reilly should be options as strong tall players. Brander was potential number 1 coming into the year so Lukosious and M King could fall and be available at a potential pick for us (I expect around pick 9?).

Ian Hill is an interesting option, he seems like a strong player, but would we take a small forward over a potential tall forward such as O'Reilly?

There's some overage/mature age players who we should pay attention to. Ninyette, Kreuger, Martini, Roe and Chris Scott are all players unlucky this year who could improve and go next year. Schloithe, Jono Marsh, Jye Bolton, Jonty Schraenberg, Francis Kinthari and Angus Litherland could all do something this year and might be worth a shot.

Other than those, players like Jye Caldwell, Thomas Berry and Tom Joyce are midfielders that we could look at (I know we don't need them, but if we have more than one pick and say we've picked a key forward and Ian Hill is gone, would we pick the best midfielder then?).

 

[Freo Shark]

Schloithe let him get built up as something special and then still not get drafted. I'd be happy to see the campaigner have that every year til he retires. Karmas a bitch.

 

[TheMcManusNose]

Lukosius, M King, B King and O'Reilly should be options as strong tall players. Brander was potential number 1 coming into the year so Lukosious and M King could fall and be available at a potential pick for us (I expect around pick 9?).

I'm still more of the opinion that we need to draft a really really talented KPF if we want a good one, so the depth up there is pleasing. With the number of talls rated top-5 now, plus O'Reilly, and the amount of mids you have to fit around them it is hard to see us not getting a crack at a KPF. Even if we scrape finals with a pick around 10. Or maybe they all do a Brander and have an average year.

Lach72 presents the other option in that this would probably be the best year to throw 2 1sts at Hogan. I give that 2% of actually working but it makes sense with the sheer amount of young talent we have - it is now more about seeing who steps up and who doesn't now than it is drafting x position because we're lacking.

 

[Taylor]

I'd want to see 18+ games and 50+ goals from Hogan to be paying two firsts for him in the 2018 off season.

 

[IAMJUNGLEMUFFIN]

He's restricted FA at the end of next season isn't he?