List Mgmt. 2018 List Management: Contracts, Trading, Drafting, Academy

[Danny88]

This is a forum correct? We can throw thoughts around.

Nobody at GWS is going to look at this and use it as a blueprint for the club, these are just ideas.

I think Tomlinson has some of the specs of a champion but for whatever reason we rarely see it. He was terrific in the Prelim last year and several of his games at the G have been A grade. That said he is pretty inconsistent, lacks agility and often lacks game smarts. He has trade value as someone would back themselves to unlock the key to him.

Patton has basically had his career wrecked by the two knees. He has the aggression and desire of a star, is generally a good kick for goal (although not so much this year) and is about as good a field kick for a bloke standing over 6ft5 that I’ve seen. I think sadly for him the game has evolved to a point his lack of agility is a major handicap. He can still have a nice career and can kick 30-40 goals but I think we can safely say he won’t be an A grader, and he is on pretty good money.

Perryman has some pure footballer qualities and instincts. He has had flashes where he has done some really important things but his body shape is a few years away. He lacks strength and is too slow. He can have a career but is an investment in time.

Guys like Hopper were mentioned because they have currency. He is a guy who may well just need some more coaching. Love the way he cracks in just wish he had a yard more pace.

Speed isn’t everything but it is a very important ingredient of the modern game. You can teach blokes to tackle but you can’t coach them to run faster. We need a reboot.

Of course u can. But conversely if u post on a forum u open yourself up to scrutiny

But that’s a gross over reaction imo

I think any of those trades make us worse in 2019

 

[Andre the Giant]

Of course u can. But conversely if u post on a forum u open yourself up to scrutiny

But that’s a gross over reaction imo

I think any of those trades make us worse in 2019

They could well do but would be be good enough anyway with those players? We have to keep building and if we feel players have plateaud then we need to move them on. Tommy and General have not improved and in fact have regressed for where they were in 2018.

This isn’t about wholesale changes but more about strategic moves to improve the list, if you do nothing you go backwards.

The difficult part is they are foundation players and have been incredibly loyal. Were it not for that it would be an easy decision but their loyalty has been second to none.

Tommo looks a bloke Taylor made for the MCG. He has played some massive games there and it just seems to be his ground. If I was him I’d be trying to get there more than once a year.

General is a bloke who could kick 6 in a big game but he has been badly exposed by the modern trend of quick movement. He’s quite one dimensional although does still clunk a good mark when he’s on.

We are now feeling some pain of some poor list management and drafting decisions but moreso at being targeted and picked off by Eddie and his merry group of butt lickers in Melbourne.

There is not a doubt in my mind that there has been a strategic alliance aimed at destabilising our talent base and bringing us back to the field.

Well it’s succeeded, so what will they do if we start struggling which looks on the cards?? Probably blame us for stuffing it up.

 

[captainMyCaptain]

In general I'm very much of the view we need to hold on to our players and not reduce our depth any further. With the only exception being if we have guys who will be free agents at the end of 2019 and have made it very clear that 2019 will be there final year with us then if we can get a better deal now we need to look at it.

 

[Colonial]

Keep the players we have a draft smart this year.

The issue is coaching and our medical staff.

Yes im in the sack Leon department BUT if you are going to stick with him get him some experience in support FFS.

As for our medical staff we need a clean slate and actually do some research into it.

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[dlanod]

Yes im in the sack Leon department BUT if you are going to stick with him get him some experience in support FFS.

Honestly (and I think I've posted this before) I don't see the point. Leon is more experienced than most "experienced" assistants and has already had more success recently than most too. I can understand the "fire him" or "keep him" positions but there's not much evidence that an experienced assistant will do anything at all.

 

[Danny88]

Is the sky still falling?

 

[Colonial]

Is the sky still falling?

Brilliant win very proud of the whole club. Singing the song loud and proud.
But
Its one win. Lets see how we back it up.

 

[Danny88]

Brilliant win very proud of the whole club. Singing the song loud and proud.
But
Its one win. Lets see how we back it up.

After the month we have had... we pull that out of the bag against all odds and played like the team we have always wanted to support...

And you STILL have a but

Smile more

 

[Colonial]

After the month we have had... we pull that out of the bag against all odds and played like the team we have always wanted to support...

And you STILL have a but

Smile more

Mate I'm on my, hmm lost count, bourbon with a tears of happiness.
There is a but though if we are being serious.

 

[captainMyCaptain]

Hopefully this is on the money

GWS defender Jeremy Finlayson has resisted offers from rival clubs and is expected to re-sign with the Giants in the coming weeks.
Foxfooty.com.au understands discussions between Finlayson’s management and the club have progressed to a point where an official signature has become a formality, with the 22 year-old likely to pen a two-year deal.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/yo...n/news-story/7002906e530680fe29bb82da24161672

 

[Giant Strides]

My fear would be that dropping him changes his mind.

 

[dlanod]

My fear would be that dropping him changes his mind.

Unfortunately there's no way around it assuming it's otherwise handled in a professional manner. You can't pick players just because you're worried about them leaving - that's just dysfunctional (Leppa headed down that route and similar when the wheels started coming off).

 

[Colonial]

My fear would be that dropping him changes his mind.

But was it form or just resting him for a long season?



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[Colonial]

Just got the email Toj till 2020

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[Colonial]

http://m.gwsgiants.com.au/sites/GWS...tends-to-2020?camefrom=EMCL_2313748_100866431

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[Danny88]

Good result for him I think

Glad we tied him up

Really would like to see some of next year’s outs get stitched up too but i know that’s dreaming

 

[coniglio_number1]

Well we now have zero players out of contract that would garner any serious interest from other clubs.

This is weird

 

[Determinant]

Well we now have zero players out of contract that would garner any serious interest from other clubs.

This is weird

And yet awesome

 

[fridgeman]

Good news on TOJ and hopefully towards the back end of the year one of Shiel/Coniglio extends, the only other early extension would be Haynes and the rest can be done next year and I am sure it will be a circus

 

[Gigantic]

Great news for the club to tie him up early.

 

[dlanod]

And yet awesome

But how are we going to get noticed in the media now?

 

[Colonial]

But how are we going to get noticed in the media now?

Just have to win the whole damn thing

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[Colonial]

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[coniglio_number1]

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This is not a good idea. Imagine if a list manager goes crazy and trades away the future for multiple years for a player that flops.

 

[Colonial]

This is not a good idea. Imagine if a list manager goes crazy and trades away the future for multiple years for a player that flops.

Then theres some lean years ahead for that club.

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