Opinion 2018 Non-Crows Discussion Thread

[Deaneus!]

( with thanks to GreyCrow )

I try to avoid road signs, because there's so many with numbers. But, as GC pointed out, this one is really apt.

Why hasn't Ollie signed yet?

It is something to do with INTERSTATE?

265 days to go

 

[mistylake]

Was listening to Fiveaa this afternoon and I'm not kidding but Bicks and Rowe rated the new Port leadership group as possibly the best in the comp.

Then they proceeded to mention other players that could be there such as Wingard and Hombsch insisted that they too could slot in without fuss.

Mentioned that due to Ports fantastic culture Dixon and now Rockliff now demand a spot on that leadership group!

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Too many chiefs not enough indians

 

[Doc_]

( with thanks to GreyCrow )

I try to avoid road signs, because there's so many with numbers. But, as GC pointed out, this one is really apt.

Why hasn't Ollie signed yet?

It is something to do with INTERSTATE?

265 days to go

Geez m8, you are keen
2 minutes past midnight.
Keep up the good work!

 

[johnnypanther]

Wasn't sure what thread to place this, so i put it here.
An interesting excerpt from South Adelaide's 2017 Annual Report:

"......1991 and the creation of Adelaide FC to play in the VFL drained so many players that the SANFL competition was reduced to nine teams. Once again, Woodville FC was folded – this time into its western suburbs neighbor. The Woodville FC CEO was then appointed as Adelaide FC’s inaugural CEO. It was a very tough task as the new Club had a ground to play on but needed to raise capital, recruit players and coaches, secure sponsors and sign up members. SANFL provided the necessary capital and appointed the board. In return, Adelaide FC had to pay a dividend of $1 million per annum to SANFL. In 1991, SANFL was largely debt free and held $2.25M in the Players Retention Fund (which was why Adelaide FC was able to assemble such a strong team).


SANFL embarked on a building program to make necessary improvements to the stadium built at West Lakes with money generated by the league clubs. It entered into bank loans for development purposes. These were later drawn down upon to fund successive recurrent Port Adelaide FC trading losses. Until the AFL licences were sold when AFL Football moved to Adelaide Oval, Adelaide FC paid $16M to SANFL in dividends and Port Adelaide FC received $17M in grants from SANFL. To this day, Adelaide FC pays SANFL to field an SANFL team whereas Port Adelaide FC does not."

 

[Deaneus!]

Wasn't sure what thread to place this, so i put it here.
An interesting excerpt from South Adelaide's 2017 Annual Report:

"......1991 and the creation of Adelaide FC to play in the VFL drained so many players that the SANFL competition was reduced to nine teams. Once again, Woodville FC was folded – this time into its western suburbs neighbor. The Woodville FC CEO was then appointed as Adelaide FC’s inaugural CEO. It was a very tough task as the new Club had a ground to play on but needed to raise capital, recruit players and coaches, secure sponsors and sign up members. SANFL provided the necessary capital and appointed the board. In return, Adelaide FC had to pay a dividend of $1 million per annum to SANFL. In 1991, SANFL was largely debt free and held $2.25M in the Players Retention Fund (which was why Adelaide FC was able to assemble such a strong team).


SANFL embarked on a building program to make necessary improvements to the stadium built at West Lakes with money generated by the league clubs. It entered into bank loans for development purposes. These were later drawn down upon to fund successive recurrent Port Adelaide FC trading losses. Until the AFL licences were sold when AFL Football moved to Adelaide Oval, Adelaide FC paid $16M to SANFL in dividends and Port Adelaide FC received $17M in grants from SANFL. To this day, Adelaide FC pays SANFL to field an SANFL team whereas Port Adelaide FC does not."

That's very interesting.

Does anyone have copies of PAFC's financial statements from back then lying around?

Looks like some things never change.

 

[MarcusP2]

So we basically funded PAFC's existence - $16M to the SANFL which then paid $17M to the Power?

 

[GameofSloanes]

Wasn't sure what thread to place this, so i put it here.
An interesting excerpt from South Adelaide's 2017 Annual Report:

"......1991 and the creation of Adelaide FC to play in the VFL drained so many players that the SANFL competition was reduced to nine teams. Once again, Woodville FC was folded – this time into its western suburbs neighbor. The Woodville FC CEO was then appointed as Adelaide FC’s inaugural CEO. It was a very tough task as the new Club had a ground to play on but needed to raise capital, recruit players and coaches, secure sponsors and sign up members. SANFL provided the necessary capital and appointed the board. In return, Adelaide FC had to pay a dividend of $1 million per annum to SANFL. In 1991, SANFL was largely debt free and held $2.25M in the Players Retention Fund (which was why Adelaide FC was able to assemble such a strong team).


SANFL embarked on a building program to make necessary improvements to the stadium built at West Lakes with money generated by the league clubs. It entered into bank loans for development purposes. These were later drawn down upon to fund successive recurrent Port Adelaide FC trading losses. Until the AFL licences were sold when AFL Football moved to Adelaide Oval, Adelaide FC paid $16M to SANFL in dividends and Port Adelaide FC received $17M in grants from SANFL. To this day, Adelaide FC pays SANFL to field an SANFL team whereas Port Adelaide FC does not."

I'm sure subaru could find somewhere to post this as well

 

[beartoo]

Should have folded that parasitic bunch of dills a few years into the club's existence when it was obvious the franchise was given to the wrong club. The AFL and SANFL would be heaps better off.

 

[Smithy7]

That's very interesting.

Does anyone have copies of PAFC's financial statements from back then lying around?
Looks like some things never change.

You might find this interesting ..
Struggling Port Adelaide's future has been guaranteed for the next three years with a $9 million AFL welfare package.
Port will be given $3 million a year until 2013 ahead of the club's move from Football Park in suburban Adelaide to the redeveloped inner-city Adelaide Oval.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-06-30/afl-throws-port-9m-lifeline/2778086

 

[Enviable Tradition]

So we basically funded PAFC's existence - $16M to the SANFL which then paid $17M to the Power?

I liked the bit where Port (via the SANFL) provided the capital to start your club and paid players (to stay out of the AFL and) help form your inaugural team.

p.s. they must have forgotten the bit where the Crows live rent free on SANFL land.

 

[Geoffa32]

I liked the bit where Port (via the SANFL) provided the capital to start your club and paid players (to stay out of the AFL and) help form your inaugural team.

p.s. they must have forgotten the bit where the Crows live rent free on SANFL land.

It was a bit of symbiotic relationship.

Yes (non AFL franchise) PAFC lead to the Crows creation and funding of the Crows start up.
But without the Crows the Power would not be alive today.

The good news is that now without SANFL ownership of both licences neither club can be adversely affected by the others failing financials. We are now independent of each other.


BTW how much rent do you pay the Port Adelaide Enfield Council and their rate payers to use and maintain Alberton?


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[chiwigi]

Wasn't sure what thread to place this, so i put it here.
An interesting excerpt from South Adelaide's 2017 Annual Report:

"......1991 and the creation of Adelaide FC to play in the VFL drained so many players that the SANFL competition was reduced to nine teams. Once again, Woodville FC was folded – this time into its western suburbs neighbor. The Woodville FC CEO was then appointed as Adelaide FC’s inaugural CEO. It was a very tough task as the new Club had a ground to play on but needed to raise capital, recruit players and coaches, secure sponsors and sign up members. SANFL provided the necessary capital and appointed the board. In return, Adelaide FC had to pay a dividend of $1 million per annum to SANFL. In 1991, SANFL was largely debt free and held $2.25M in the Players Retention Fund (which was why Adelaide FC was able to assemble such a strong team).


SANFL embarked on a building program to make necessary improvements to the stadium built at West Lakes with money generated by the league clubs. It entered into bank loans for development purposes. These were later drawn down upon to fund successive recurrent Port Adelaide FC trading losses. Until the AFL licences were sold when AFL Football moved to Adelaide Oval, Adelaide FC paid $16M to SANFL in dividends and Port Adelaide FC received $17M in grants from SANFL. To this day, Adelaide FC pays SANFL to field an SANFL team whereas Port Adelaide FC does not."

If you believe that then I've got a bridge to sell you.

 

[Markthirtytwo2]

If you believe that then I've got a bridge to sell you.

You can't sell something you don't own.

 

[chiwigi]

You can't sell something you don't own.

You can to people who believe that! They'll buy anything.

 

[beartoo]

You can to people who believe that! They'll buy anything.

You can if you're a criminal.

 

[Deaneus!]

If you believe that then I've got a bridge to sell you.

Do you happen to have audited financial reports from that time period as well?

 

[Geoffa32]

You can to people who believe that! They'll buy anything.

This is Kochie's mantra in life.....

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[ad victoriam]

I liked the bit where Port (via the SANFL) provided the capital to start your club and paid players (to stay out of the AFL and) help form your inaugural team.

p.s. they must have forgotten the bit where the Crows live rent free on SANFL land.

Mate can you tell me how much Port pay the City of Port Adelaide and Enfield for the exclusive use of Alberton and sole right to building on the grounds.

Simple question - How much do they pay, and why are, Port supporters reluctant to bring this subject up.

 

[subaru]

I'm sure subaru could find somewhere to post this as well

Shall do !!

Bahaha

 

[subaru]

If you believe that then I've got a bridge to sell you.

Yawn - then don't just flap your gums about it - debunk it!
And aren't they jetty pylons not prison bars ?

 

[GreyCrow]

If you believe that then I've got a bridge to sell you.

I'm sure the Port legals looked that document over at the time


Can you now show me the judgement made on behalf of the club?

 

[subaru]

You can't sell something you don't own.

They were selling second hand socks and jocks at their change room sale at a $1 a item !

They'll sell anything not nailed down

 

[subaru]

You might find this interesting ..
Struggling Port Adelaide's future has been guaranteed for the next three years with a $9 million AFL welfare package.
Port will be given $3 million a year until 2013 ahead of the club's move from Football Park in suburban Adelaide to the redeveloped inner-city Adelaide Oval.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-06-30/afl-throws-port-9m-lifeline/2778086

Parasites
Always the parasites

 

[kirky]

If you believe that then I've got a bridge to sell you.

You do realise it is in an annual report?

Head in the sand attitude - your club was a failure financially in the SANFL. It will continue to suck dry other more profitable clubs and why? It’s membership demographic. It is pretty simple to understand but hey only business people understand this. It’s why you have the circuses!

 

[subaru]

You do realise it is in an annual report?

Head in the sand attitude - your club was a failure financially in the SANFL. It will continue to suck dry other more profitable clubs and why? It’s membership demographic. It is pretty simple to understand but hey only business people understand this. It’s why you have the circuses!

Exactly
Welfare flog mentality permeates every level of that organization. All the way down to asking for a Govt grant for a playground. Goes hand in hand with the "blame everyone else" mentality too,