Opinion 2018 Non-Crows Discussion Thread

[baldandbroke]

Who said i'm removed from the Tasmanian situation .....that's your assumption

I think you've come up with conclusions, without a full understanding of a working financial model required

I haven't come up with anything ... These are what Tasmanians I have spoken to (that are at directly involved in Tassie footy) have told me when I have asked them what the solution is.

My reference to you being removed from the coal face of the problem was an assumption on my part based on what you posted. How are you actually connected to this problem? How far from the coal face are you?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Crows have an Academy and run quite a few community sessions.
Both North and Hawthorn run communities session and junior coaching sessions. in Tasmania,

The Tasmanian issue is you have Hobart and Launceston, two different cities, and football organisations who do not see eye to eye, The whole state cannot work together It's like the Hatfield and McCoys. And its runs deeper than Football. Then you have Queenstown

I agree ......however the Academy is simply to develop particular demographic groups ....the Crows have no ability to impact the structure of local footy or participation rates

Queenstown ? ....

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Have never heard you moan about the quality of coffee in Hobart. So we all just presume that you've never been there.

Oh i've spent a great deal of time in Tasmania over many years in a business capacity

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

DeGoey drunk driver!

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&...EwAQ&usg=AOvVaw2jce6MCFmoEstkFYWTDUX8&ampcf=1

Just can't keep himself out of trouble...

 

[baldandbroke]

Oh i've spent a great deal of time in Tasmania over many years in a business capacity

Basically a local then? Finger on the pulse and all that?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Basically a local then? Finger on the pulse and all that?

Nah not a local, Melb based ....but work took me there on a regular basis, which is how you see the difference between what people say & what people do

 

[Mego Red]

Crows have an Academy and run quite a few community sessions.
Both North and Hawthorn run communities session and junior coaching sessions. in Tasmania,

The Tasmanian issue is you have Hobart and Launceston, two different cities, and football organisations who do not see eye to eye, The whole state cannot work together It's like the Hatfield and McCoys. And its runs deeper than Football. Then you have Queenstown

That's incredibly simplistic.

North has done very little in Hobart. It's just been desperate for the cash.

The north-south divide doesn't exist with anyone in Tasmania younger than 40. It's from another time. If there was a Tasmanian team, they would be completely united by it.

 

[Sanders]

Oh i've spent a great deal of time in Tasmania over many years in a business capacity

Yeah but you claim to be in marketing but hate stats & metrics

Marketing uses stats & data analysis more than even baseball.

Something doesn’t quite add up here

 

[Mego Red]

Who said i'm removed from the Tasmanian situation .....that's your assumption

I think you've come up with conclusions, without a full understanding of a working financial model required

So, you've visited a few times for work. I lived there, and frankly you're wrong.

And enough of your remedial economics discussion. Everyone older than five understands the financial reasons for going into GWS.

Another team is SEQ makes little sense, though. And losing a successful market like Tasmania is an absolute disaster.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

So, you've visited a few times for work. I lived there, and frankly you're wrong.

And enough of your remedial economics discussion. Everyone older than five understands the financial reasons for going into GWS.

Another team is SEQ makes little sense, though. And losing a successful market like Tasmania is an absolute disaster.

Disaster ? ........that's extreme ......bigger markets to conquer, which have 100 times more economic benefit to the AFL longterm

 

[ad victoriam]

That's incredibly simplistic.

North has done very little in Hobart. It's just been desperate for the cash.

The north-south divide doesn't exist with anyone in Tasmania younger than 40. It's from another time. If there was a Tasmanian team, they would be completely united by it.

I agree they will support 1 team, But Where do you put the Team, Who runs the team. Will a relocated club work Straight away?.
The problem is the under 40 don't run the football in Tasmania. At this time they are there own worst enemies. and need a united front.
Currently, you have a Hobart Push and a Launceston push.

 

[ad victoriam]

I agree ......however the Academy is simply to develop particular demographic groups ....the Crows have no ability to impact the structure of local footy or participation rates

Queenstown ? ....

Wondering if anyone would work the reason for adding Queenstown,
Ie years ago the was an Idea put up to make Queenstown the home of an AFL football team because it was not Hobart or Launceston.
It was quietly laughed off never to heard of again.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Wondering if anyone would work the reason for adding Queenstown,
Ie years ago the was an Idea put up to make Queenstown the home of an AFL football team because it was not Hobart or Launceston.
It was quietly laughed off never to heard of again.

Queenstown

Victor Harbor is bigger & more luscious ......i could understand putting a prison there?

 

[FAITH]

Yeah but you claim to be in marketing but hate stats & metrics

Marketing uses stats & data analysis more than even baseball.

Something doesn’t quite add up here

 

[Mego Red]

Disaster ? ........that's extreme ......bigger markets to conquer, which have 100 times more economic benefit to the AFL longterm

Again, just remedial understanding about economic development.

The issues for the brand of the AFL if they let a developed market wither and die while chasing a 30 year growth dream should be obvious.

 

[MRB37]

Decent player with potential, but he's doing his best to piss his career away before it even gets established, let alone being lucky he didn't kill himself and/or someone else by driving drunk.

 

[FR0GGY]

Just can't keep himself out of trouble...

I bet it was his dog that was actually caught under the influence and he’s covering for him.

 

[ad victoriam]

Queenstown

Victor Harbor is bigger & more luscious ......i could understand putting a prison there?

Yes agreed and so did the powers to be at the time, it was put up at the time as a Joke move to highlight the bickering between Hobart and Launceston. they picked Queenstown as it had an Airport.

 

[baldandbroke]

Nah not a local, Melb based ....but work took me there on a regular basis, which is how you see the difference between what people say & what people do

What?

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[WaynesWorld19]

Again, just remedial understanding about economic development.

The issues for the brand of the AFL if they let a developed market wither and die while chasing a 30 year growth dream should be obvious.

It is ! .......it's about the relative size & worth of each respective market .....that's obvious

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Decent player with potential, but he's doing his best to piss his career away before it even gets established, let alone being lucky he didn't kill himself and/or someone else by driving drunk.

Obviously doesn't like playing full seasons...

 

[subaru]

Oh but Cap for every little girl like your own there are 10 little boys and girls like Tintin.
http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/2016-12-20/an-open-letter-from-shanghai

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That letter was one of the funniest things Port pear marketing have ever come up with

The bed wetting bit resonates with the Koolaid masses perfectly

It's a triumph in sheer stupidity

 

[WaynesWorld19]

What?

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Sorry "what" in relation to ???

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

It is ! .......it's about the relative size & worth of each respective market .....that's obvious

Most money for clubs comes from the national not local sponsorship. Ie. Promoting brand in a national competition.

The main issue is what crowds would Tasmania get to the game long term. Given they are a parochial footy state, no less than GC or GC.

It makes more sense having a team in Tasmania, than the 9th team in Melbourne.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Most money for clubs comes from the national not local sponsorship. Ie. Promoting brand in a national competition.

The main issue is what crowds would Tasmania get to the game long term. Given they are a parochial footy state, no less than GC or GC.

It makes more sense having a team in Tasmania, than the 9th team in Melbourne.

If this were the case, why do clubs go to such great lengths to increase their memberships each year & strive to get crowds at grounds

Fagan has stated a few times, as others, that the relative success of clubs winning footy games, translates to bums on seats, merchandise sales ......and is the difference to us finishing in the black versus the red

Why then push to move from West Lakes to Adelaide Oval, if everything comes from National Sponsorship and AFL Rights Distribution?