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I say they don’t do the deal. Why would they get him and trade him for around the same pick or worse after only one year. I’m not sure we need him anyway.
Yeah I've got no doubt they tell us to GAGF, I was only speaking hypothetically.

I think there's still need for a quality key back though, not as much as an elite mid obviously.

Brown is 31 this year and Carlisle is 28 and coming off back surgery.

Battle has looked promising since going back but still yet to prove a lot, Austin looks like a disappointment and Clav wasn't exactly an early draft pick, hasn't shown a lot yet and is suited more to the third tall role.

King would take a couple of years to develop but would hopefully be right up and running by the time Brown and Carlisle are near the end.
 

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But can you use two of them? It might be like having 2 dicks. You don't know what to do with one while the other is occupied. Even worse what if thy both end up like Tyrone Vickery.
I see I'm not the only one plagued by twodickitus. Be strong my brother.
 
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Why though, you are not guaranteed of anything when taking it to the draft either
That's really poor logic.
Its ok to trade picks for mediocrity because no guarantee of getting an elite in the draft.

Yet SOMETIMES people get someone elite from the draft.
You want to rule out that "sometimes"?
 
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That's really poor logic.
Its ok to trade picks for mediocrity because no guarantee of getting an elite in the draft.

Yet SOMETIMES people get someone elite from the draft.
You want to rule out that "sometimes"?
Im not sure what you are talking about. Who is the mediocre player I want to trade for? Ben King or Jack Martin?
 
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Ben King is quick though - much quicker than Carlisle. Many think Max will be a gun, imagine having 2 of the b****ds?!
Ben isn’t just a defender either.. he can play forward or high half forward. When Max went down with the knee, Ben went forward and totally dominated as well.
 
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No thanks for me.

Dunstan a better footballer and supporters want to give him away.


Speed required / outside running players


Langdon ( Freo )

Martin ( Gold Coast )

Caldwell ( GWS ) if he wants to come home


Still have no one to replace Jack Steven .
Caldwell does that also Cogs. Clark in the middle.
 

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Can you play 2 exactly the same type tall forwards though, most teams would just run away with the ball.
They are the same size but different type of players.

When playing forward, Max is known for his contested marking and rarely leaves the forward 50.

Ben on the other hand was known more to work up and down the ground and liked the ball on the lead. I'd be playing him back anyway.
 

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Has anyone had a look at Sandy dragons this year, Ryan Byrnes is meant to be a bit of a fast mid who racks up numbers. Supposedly a first rounder and sounds like what we need.
I've only read up on him mate, but he sounds like the type we'd be after.

Not a big kid, but wins the contested footy, has speed and is a nice kick apparently.
 
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Can you play 2 exactly the same type tall forwards though, most teams would just run away with the ball.
All depends on how they are around the ground.. some talls are as good defensively as they are offensive. Can you play two Paddy/Hawkins types? No. But at least gives flexibility.. most likely Ben would be a key back, but just not set in stone.
 
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His kicking is ok, nothing great but ok I reckon. Reminds me of Newnes.

Newnes isn't flashy but he has Geary levels of commitment to the contest, I'm not convinced Parish will ever be a hard player. Parish is still young and you'd be hoping he can become a project like Aish at Collingwood.
 

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Newnes isn't flashy but he has Geary levels of commitment to the contest, I'm not convinced Parish will ever be a hard player. Parish is still young and you'd be hoping he can become a project like Aish at Collingwood.
Not sure what makes you think Parish is soft.

His knock isn't his hardness on the footy.

His foot skills is the thing that lets him down. How many kids walk into afl footy and average 9 contested touches in their first year?
 

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Not sure what makes you think Parish is soft.

His knock isn't his hardness on the footy.

His foot skills is the thing that lets him down. How many kids walk into afl footy and average 9 contested touches in their first year?
i get what ya saying but i also agree with gringo. parish is not your in and under beast which he should be as a rover. ranked 88th in the league for contested posession. 76th for clearance. so once you couple in the issues with disposal, he's not what we need.
 
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