AFLW 2019 Expansion - Welcome North/Tas and Geelong (WCE, GC, Rich, Stk in 2020)

[Jim Prideaux]

Part of me thinks that Port didn't bid as much as the unlikelihood of actually succeeding, SA talent is still a fair bit behind WA/QLD/VIC so any 2nd SA team out of state-based players would get absolutely demolished. Why go to through the costly expense of actually constructing a bid (paying people to physically construct it) when you know it's going to fail anyway on the basis of the quality of talent you're constructing a team from?


Box Hill City Oval's a cricket ground in the summer. You can't just kick out male and female cricket teams that have been using the ground for decades.

Yup, fair call. Didn't even think about that.

 

[Great8]

No way Essendon gets in this time

 

[Gigantor]

AFL Womens is still as much about promotion and development as it is anything else. Having two teams in queensland early would be a boon for the womens game up there.

Personally, I can see the AFL being quite supportive of a Suns bid.

 

[telsor]

Participation is a big deal, but their membership is tiny, the AFL surely wouldn't give a license to a team that very few people are going to watch when there are some huge clubs bidding.

I suspect they'd look at it the other way around. This would be a chance to build GC's support/membership.

I suspect outside Vic, new teams will be allocated based on women's participation numbers in their state.

Inside Vic, I figure it'll be as much a case of balancing the numbers as anything...If the AFL wants 4 new teams, and there are 3 from outside Vic, then 1 more Vic clubs will be added...(or 2/2, or 1/3).

You'd think Hawthorn would be no chance as both their bid and North's include Tasmania, which would seem to make them mutually exclusive, and on top of North having a 'provisional license' already (although we'll see how much that means) and the AFL seem more inclined to have North as the 'one club' in Tas.

 

[NimFromSudan]

Geelong is the only lock as far as I'm concerned.

I desperately want to see a Richmond side but would be by far more upset if we lost out to the Victorian non-bidders Hawthorn and Essendon than I will be if we lose to anyone else.

I also consider West Coast and Gold Coast as automatic selections as soon as the region can support them talent-wise, though it's obviously tough gauging exactly when that will be (Gold Coast is probably ahead in the youth development right now, no?).

 

[The_Wookie]

 

[Willo_]

I watched this the other day, have to think the way Kate reacted when talking about the Cats bid was pretty telling, and they we are almost a lock.

 

[TWLS]

The Eagles launch their case to be included in the AFLW.

https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/eagles-want-to-be-part-of-womens-revolution-ng-b88512357z

 

[Caputo]

Gold Coast Suns aren’t ready for an AFLW team
Andrew Hamilton, The Courier-Mail
June 17, 2017 9:19pm
Subscriber only
SLOW down, Suns.

The AFL should reject Gold Coast’s bid for an AFLW licence for the Suns’ own good and that of Queensland footy.
Brisbane’s AFLW side made the grand final last year and the whole exercise still ran at a loss.
The Suns aren’t ready. They haven’t yet worked out how to commercialise the men’s team and are criminally under-resourced.

The Brisbane Lions’ women’s team was a roaring success as it went on an undefeated roll until the Grand Final.
However, the AFL are clearly uncertain what the competition looks like when the honeymoon period ends and have wisely delayed expansion until year three.
At some point the competition will be judged on the quality of the football.
And there just isn’t enough talent available yet. One strong side is better for the game than two mediocre ones.
Long term it is a no-brainer as the Under-18s girls talent in Queensland is superior to the over-25’s.
But the immediate consequence of the Suns receiving a women’s licence now would be no different to when they got their men’s team, they will cannibalise the Lions — in corporate and fan support and in talent.

The big fish would be Coolangatta’s Leah Kaslar. Brisbane would not have made the grand final without her.

Once there are more Melbourne-based teams is will also become harder to recruit Victorians.
Kaitlyn Ashmore is likely to be a marquee player in an expanded competition.
If the Kangaroos get a team and play games out of Tassie, the girls from the Apple Isle such as Brittany Gibson and Jessica Wuetschner would also be hard to retain.

AFLW is the AFL’s newest baby and it doesn’t sit well at head office when some clubs have refused to jump on board.
Suns CEO Mark Evans was smart to bid. It keeps the AFL happy and if the Suns miss out, they will be first in line for the third expansion in a four or five years’ time.
Hopefully by then the AFL club is humming on and off the field and the gun juniors are ready to dominate at AFLW level.
They’re not there yet.

 

[____]

The "I want my kid to play for [insert team here]" argument is kinda pointless in a league where there is a draft.

From what I seen the entire Essendon/Richmond bids revolve around "I want to play for Essendon/Richmond" (with Essendon adding in NT as well)

 

[Lore]

The "I want my kid to play for [insert team here]" argument is kinda pointless in a league where there is a draft.

From what I seen the entire Essendon/Richmond bids revolve around "I want to play for Essendon/Richmond" (with Essendon adding in NT as well)

Michaela is a father/daughter, but what you say is fair enough about Georgia and whoever Richmond has.

I think the idea behind it is about 'what it means to the club and to the supporters', which was one of the criteria, I think?

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Kate Sheahan mentioned on sen that afl now saying an amnouncement on the decision will be likely in august, not july

 

[Ice-Wolf]

Kate Sheahan mentioned on sen that afl now saying an amnouncement on the decision will be likely in august, not july

Got to get their excuses straight.

 

[NoobPie]

Got to get their excuses straight.

Sure, or it's a brutally tough decision for which the supporting information won't be prepared in time for commission meeting that would allow for a July announcement?

One of the two I'm sure

 

[Frank J Moose]

WAWFL doing its hardest to scupper West Coast's bid. The inequity in the competition and the unwillingness of the league or power clubs to do anything about it results in player giving the game away. I mean who wants to go five weeks without you team scoring a goal.

A chance to take opportunities AFLW has offered is being frittered away by selfish clubs and players much more interested in thier own egos than developing the game.

Highlighted this week with one of the WAWFL teams forfeiting its league game against one of the "power clubs" (would have been 35+goals to nil) and they are really struggling for numbers. The power club responded by dropping 3 AFLW players to reserves and smashing them 24.20 to nil. There's a few more players who won't turn up next week.

Until they fix this you don't have enough talent playing competitive games, and not enough opportunity to develop enough players to sustain 2 AFLW sides.

 

[The_Wookie]

But Goddard has called for caution.

“I’ve seen where women’s footy has been, so I would err on the side of caution about how many licences are given,” she said at the AFL Women’s industry conference.

“I wouldn’t want to put a number on it, but don’t break it.

“We’ve created something absolutely amazing. I’m not saying this to protect my patch in Adelaide – I’m saying this because I do genuinely care about what has been created and I don’t want it to break.

“I don’t want the standard to drop – it’s got to get better. And I think it’s really important that caution is exercised when handing out those licences.”

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/af...n/news-story/490ba15010464046828a80714fc9a1c4

 

[NimFromSudan]

The wait drags on

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...-mclachlan-cannot-ignore-20170717-gxczid.html

"The eight clubs waiting to learn if they will earn AFL Women's licences for 2019 have been told they will have to wait a little longer due to the current head office turmoil "

 

[BringBackTorps]

SEN Radio Melb. 19.7 Lyon/Watson Program

A. Ireland Sydney CEO stated (paraphrasing) the Swans have told the AFL they want an AFLW team asap.
As their current facilities at the SCG are not big enough to accomodate a women's team in as professional an environment as possible, the Swans are very active now in searching for an oval in the eastern suburbs -and which allows the Swans room to build the professional facilities required by the AFLW. They also have plans to boost community female AF in Sydney.

As these facilities can't be guaranteed to be ready by 2019, the Swans will not be in the AFLW then. They are also establishing an U13 Girls Academy -to fast track elite local female players for their future AFLW team, possibly 2021 or 2023.
I would assume the AFL wants to maximise the general profile of AF in NSW (& Qld) as quickly as possible -so Sydney might get a spot in 2021. GC, with Qld.'s huge female regd. nos., deserves a spot in 2019.

 

[Crawb]

Gold Coast saying they'd play a game in North Queensland as part of their bid now. But I don't think they're in serious contention.

 

[Banyo Bloods]

I'd love to see the AFL back a Fitzroy team to enter the comp and give their old supporters something to get behind

 

[JRyan23]

Gold Coast saying they'd play a game in North Queensland as part of their bid now. But I don't think they're in serious contention.

http://www.goldcoastfc.com.au/news/2017-07-20/suns-announce-aflw-north-queensland-commitment

 

[Ice-Wolf]

Gold Coast saying they'd play a game in North Queensland as part of their bid now. But I don't think they're in serious contention.

They have to as Brisbane have already called dibs for the Sunshine Coast.

 

[Mkcaptain]

The back of the Eagles banner today.
AFLW 2019. We're ready

 

[The_Wookie]

SWANS chief executive-in-waiting Tom Harley has declared that establishing a Sydney women’s AFL team stands as his No.1 priority when he takes over the reins next year.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/sy...8/news-story/eb2b610bc498fd75732a39d18585dfe3

 

[kreglze]

Gold Coast saying they'd play a game in North Queensland as part of their bid now. But I don't think they're in serious contention.

Suns bidding now so they Put themselves in line for the next expansion IMO