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I can’t believe we are going after a 32 year old ruckman.
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You don't have to believe it yet, but I'd steel myself for 6 weeks time ...I can’t believe we are going after a 32 year old ruckman.
I'm of a similar view. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Ceglar's a great ruckman, but rather than get a low pick that doesn't help us much, and given that we need to (or at least should have to) replace both Dawson & Mummy, I'd prefer to get Ceglar as at least a useful contribution. There at least could be a competition as to who works best with our mids.Interesting who leads the ruck next year if we get both Jacobs and Ceglar. Just cant see us getting anything worthwhile pickwise from Hawks for Patton so Ceglar seems like the best bet.
What did it say? Can you help the lazy guy who doesn’t want to listen know?When dealing with Hawthorn Nuffies next year, in inevitable threads about the contract status of one Lachie Whitfield, one need only point them in the direction of this week’s episode of The Footy Phil, to demonstrate that said Lachie Whitfield ain’t goin’ nowhere.
You don't have to believe it yet, but I'd steel myself for 6 weeks time ...
I'm of a similar view. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Ceglar's a great ruckman, but rather than get a low pick that doesn't help us much, and given that we need to (or at least should have to) replace both Dawson & Mummy, I'd prefer to get Ceglar as at least a useful contribution. There at least could be a competition as to who works best with our mids.
Worst case scenario for me will be that we have to pay for RFA Jacobs, get a nothing pick for Patton, don't trade in Ceglar, and keep Mummy on the list.
What did it say? Can you help the lazy guy who doesn’t want to listen know?
Lore has him marked as 'Uncontracted' rather than 'Free Agent' in the D&T thread, and she's pretty on her game with the contract aspects. I reckon we'll need to trade - hence the link to the mooted Patton trade.I'm fairly sure Ceglar is a free agent.
And he is a good tap ruckman, as he showed in Canberra when he pantsed your ruckmen. Probably not the greatest kick and has a large turning circle, but would be a significant up-grade on your current ruckmen.
He will do the job better and cheaper than any others we may be looking at until Flynn and Briggs are ready.Lore has him marked as 'Uncontracted' rather than 'Free Agent' in the D&T thread, and she's pretty on her game with the contract aspects. I reckon we'll need to trade - hence the link to the mooted Patton trade.
And I hold my view that he's not that great a ruckman - but yes, better than the 2 lumps of coal that we've been hauling around this year unfortunately. Hence why we want new ones!
I agree. We're not selling the house (not that we can - it's too heavily mortgaged) for a top ruckman, just an adequate placeholder until one (or both) of Flynn/Briggs becomes viable in first grade. Damn shame that Flynn went down with an ACL - puts his progress back by at least a year, plus it means we will need a second ruckman as standby in case of injury. (Which is why I have a feeling we may keep Mummy.)He will do the job better and cheaper than any others we may be looking at until Flynn and Briggs are ready.
Only been at Hawthorn six years so not sure how you figure that.
Rookie years do, years at other clubs do not.Discussion on the Hawthorn board when his name comes up as a potential trade. He was on the Hawthorn list as a rookie initially, up-graded after the first year and previous to that was on Collingwood's list. I'm uncertain if rookie years and being on another club's list contributes to time in the system when it comes to calculating free agency.
Tom Morris saying sharenburg from the pies is gettable. He is 23 and was very highly rated in his draft year as the best rebounding defender in that pool. A few knee injuries have smashed his career. He could be a ready made heater replacement should he move on.
This would obviously be dependent on him passing a thorough medical and us getting him cheap
And how about Jetta from half back? He is on fire! Such long, penetrating kicks tearing into the middle of the groundHe’s a good player but with our medical team I’d be nervous with a repeat ACL offender.
On another note how good is Willie Rioli....we literally missed him by a draft pick, Caruso loved him. So poised and silky, exactly what we are missing although I can see young Bobby Hill being a replica.
If it were a history of soft tissue injuries I would hesitate but there is far less convincing research on ACL’sHe’s a good player but with our medical team I’d be nervous with a repeat ACL offender.
On another note how good is Willie Rioli....we literally missed him by a draft pick, Caruso loved him. So poised and silky, exactly what we are missing although I can see young Bobby Hill being a replica.
Why would he want to leave?Off-contract utility keen to stay a Giant
He has been constantly linked with a return to Victoria.sen.lu
Still think he is gone.
Unless he takes much less than what he was on.