Pakenhamsaint
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- Jan 5, 2011
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We are only 44 off North.Worst of the lot, apart from the two Queensland teams and the Giants.
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We are only 44 off North.Worst of the lot, apart from the two Queensland teams and the Giants.
Considering our 2018 it seems pretty reasonable to me. Lets face it, 2018 was an absolute disaster.Worst of the lot, apart from the two Queensland teams and the Giants.
Considering our 2018 it seems pretty reasonable to me. Lets face it, 2018 was an absolute disaster.
Then again, come out hard with new game plan, show some of the new boys off and up the membership count will go.
Worst of the lot, apart from the two Queensland teams and the Giants.
There are also real members and nominal members. For example, does anyone believe Adelaide has 77,000 members? Their stadium holds 50,000 people so what are they including in the figures they are providing the AFL?
When comparing club membership figures I suspect we aren’t comparing like-for-like membership categories. My view is that we should only be including full adult and junior memberships which include those who subscribe to full season digital memberships.
At the very least published figures should provide a detailed break down of membership categories by club. I reckon some clubs are including a lot of discounted memberships to inflate their figures, such as pets and 3 game memberships.
There will also be a lag for AFL Members with club support. From memory those figures don’t always flow through until after Xmas. As an AFL member with Saints club support I still don’t have my membership pack from the club and am waiting for notification from the club about my 2019 membership..
But 28,000 members is a little disappointing, although it’s comparable to where we were at the same time last year. We need a boost in the New Year after a tough 2018.
Richmonds Goldfish membership also swells their numbers!Geelong's three game memberships swell their numbers.
Melbourne suck for a team that looks likely to play finals next year though. 2000 or so more than us is s**t house.
The crows count everyone who buys a membership in thier figures. The AFL has its own criteria. Which is why they officially had 64k this year.There are also real members and nominal members. For example, does anyone believe Adelaide has 77,000 members? Their stadium holds 50,000 people so what are they including in the figures they are providing the AFL?
Pet memberships dont count.individual must have a name, contact details, have contributed $50 to the club and received a membership pack.
The crows count everyone who buys a membership in thier figures. The AFL has its own criteria. Which is why they officially had 64k this year.
The AFL count a membership as:
Pet memberships dont count.
With you 100% there St_Neil.St Kilda has the advantage of a geographic identity and a supporter base that rises quickly when good times emerge (which hasn’t been often enough).. Our club is the ultimate tease, promising much but not delivering enough.
Our people will flock back when it looks like we are rising powerfully. Maybe not 2019,
Still staggers me that after all those years of finals for a decade we are still among the cellar dwellers for membership after being told 1000 times about our latent "supporter" base.
Proves one thing. THe fans who dropped off after 2010 wont be back til we win a flag. All the Prelims and GF appearances now fall into "mehh been there done that, heart broken"
Its the real down side of sustained success without an actual flag.
I don't know why you don't think this is true.Still staggers me that after all those years of finals for a decade we are still among the cellar dwellers for membership after being told 1000 times about our latent "supporter" base.
That last bit interests me St Neil! I really hope so!
Three times I have seen the Saints rise up powerfully in the comp
All were followed by huge masses that came from everywhere proving
How Big StKilda could/should be! Early 90's then 96-98 and again from 04-10
In all three circumstances the club failed dismally to take advantage of this
Sleeping dare I say Juggernaut waiting to explode! Especially the last stretch
In the Noughties! Where it appeared the admin was downright antisocial when it
Came to embracing our new found success and awaiting army!
So whilst I well And truly hope you are right that this time the club will capitalise
I'm not exactly so certain as the more times we have dismissed the previously
Disenfranchised in the past the harder it will be to get them back!
Ultimately today's generation more than previous ones demand success and
Glory and until we finally deliver that Holy grail we will struggle to keep up in the
Very crowded, competitive market in Melbourne!
In all my time I doubt I have ever seen the Saints less relevant than what they
Are in today's climate! It will take a mighty effort on and off the field to make up
For all the ground lost over 30 years! Really hope everyone in place is up for it!
I believe it. Hell even here in Perth there seems to be oodles of saints supporters. I see them more than any other club bar maybe hawthorn and the two local teams.I don't know why you don't think this is true.
I've heard the club state this as well. Was it 2015 we announced our plan to be on finals be 2018 and win a flag by 2020? They said then that from Port Melbourne to Portsea we've got as many fans as the tiges. I assume they have some survey data to back that up.I don't know why you don't think this is true.
A great post there St.Neil….agree with everything you stated.I don’t agree. We fell away quickly after 2010 and then had the awful publicity of the School girl thing. Then Ross Lyon pulled the pin. And then the Scott Watters appointment didn’t work and the club was hammered by the media for sacking him after only 2 years.
I believe it. Hell even here in Perth there seems to be oodles of saints supporters. I see them more than any other club bar maybe hawthorn and the two local teams.
Yeah I've seen the data first hand so it is true. In 2009 we had more members than Richmond did, so were people back then saying Richmond didn't have a large supporter base?I've heard the club state this as well. Was it 2015 we announced our plan to be on finals be 2018 and win a flag by 2020? They said then that from Port Melbourne to Portsea we've got as many fans as the tiges. I assume they have some survey data to back that up.
Here's and article from 2015 where Finnis states the same:
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...e/news-story/8a57f3935641804a5c2d4bdd8f972791
I can solve this.Yeah I've seen the data first hand so it is true. In 2009 we had more members than Richmond did, so were people back then saying Richmond didn't have a large supporter base?
We are a club that can reach 75,000+ members.
Yeah I've seen the data first hand so it is true. In 2009 we had more members than Richmond did, so were people back then saying Richmond didn't have a large supporter base?
We are a club that can reach 75,000+ members.