List Mgmt. 2019 Trade Thread

[bird_man]

False check out the age trade rumours.


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Haha, actually it was true when I posted it. Go back through the thread and you'll see I posted it minutes before the Age released their article.

 

[t_94]

This is where Gubby proves his worth. If Coniglio doesn't come, we should target Hopper or Tarantino, even though they will cost players and/or picks. Depending on who you listen to, Tomlinson is a strong chance to be with us for 2020, through FA. Go Gubby!

Tomlinson doesn't cut it I'm afraid. Very good midfielders or tread water. Thats the equation.

 

[stavro#4]

Tomlinson doesn't cut it I'm afraid. Very food midfielders or tread water. Thats the equation.

He is Jason Blake with upgrades. I’ll take that as the versatility is fantastic in a 22.

He doesn’t move the needle in terms of making us a contender on his own but he moves the needle with a team consisting of Cogniglio Steven Carlisle King And a fit Hanners

 

[Mikka84]

How much is a first round draft pick worth?

I'd say if you were to put a figure on it it would have to be worth close to a million if not more, we don't need to give up one for Cogs let alone two. This, and the fact that we have had too much money spare in the cap for probably five plus years means we need to pay up to move forward.

So as obscene as $1.4pa seems, in reality it won't even be noticed.

There is the argument that our current players won't be happy earning nearly a million less a year than Cogs, it's a genuine concern but at this point I don't know anyone who should be questioning such a deal.

As I said previously, Cogs saying yes, if he does, will create a flow on effect with a couple of other young guns happy to double their salary over their career.

It’s worth what someone is willing to pay for it.
If the only way we can get elite talent is to pay what some may see as overs, but we see as a means to strengthen and play finals, then absolutely.
Be reminded the teams that say it’s overs, are the teams that already have 3 or 4 elite players and can’t actually afford it.

 

[OxSaint]

Dunkley resigns. Let’s focus in on Papley as a trade target. Although that Caleb Serong out of the draft sounds good and would be similar style of player.

 

[Ducky Tie]

Another bit of hindsight hero. Would have loved for us to have a crack at Sam Lloyd in the off season. Is up to 20 goals already and is getting around 16 possies a game. Been a shrewd pick up by the dogs. Exactly what we need.

 

[gringo2011]

We could throw captaincy into the convo provided he spends a year in the leadership group first, I wouldn't even be upset making him skipper straight up but I think that would ruffle a few feathers among the players and supporters.

I'd make him king and president of the Free Republic of Moorabin if that would get him over the line.

 

[gringo2011]

Dunkley resigns. Let’s focus in on Papley as a trade target. Although that Caleb Serong out of the draft sounds good and would be similar style of player.

What would you pay for Papley though? He's capable of being excellent or a spud depending on the day. I reckon Sydney would want a minimum of a future second.

 

[gringo2011]

Another bit of hindsight hero. Would have loved for us to have a crack at Sam Lloyd in the off season. Is up to 20 goals already and is getting around 16 possies a game. Been a shrewd pick up by the dogs. Exactly what we need.

Yeah, he was a good player when the Tigers were shit, he was pretty unlucky not to get played when they shot back up the ladder. My only concern for us is that he's too much like Membrey, he's really a lead up forward in a small package.

 

[gringo2011]

No chance

I really don't see a need for Thomlinson, he's really just a rebounding back who isn't any real upgrade on what we already have. Unless they think he could move to a full time mid he's a no.

 

[Ducky Tie]

Yeah, he was a good player when the Tigers were ****, he was pretty unlucky not to get played when they shot back up the ladder. My only concern for us is that he's too much like Membrey, he's really a lead up forward in a small package.

Quality is quality. There's room for more than one good hit up player in a F50. He does more at ground level than Membrey and doesn't have the contested marking game. They're different enough.

 

[gringo2011]

Out of Whitfield, Taranto, Kelly and Coniglio, Cogs would be my last pick, but I'm still happy to throw 1.4mil at him.

Coniglio is under rated, he's more of a hard worker than the others, Kelly and Whitfield are elite runners but are more outside, most of our mids are very outside already. Coniglio wins his own ball and suits us more, Taranto won't be going anywhere, his young enough to want to make a name and expect less money. Cogs is also older and more experienced, has more leadership qualities and is a free agent, he's the first I'd be looking at.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Coniglio is under rated, he's more of a hard worker than the others, Kelly and Whitfield are elite runners but are more outside, most of our mids are very outside already. Coniglio wins his own ball and suits us more, Taranto won't be going anywhere, his young enough to want to make a name and expect less money. Cogs is also older and more experienced, has more leadership qualities and is a free agent, he's the first I'd be looking at.

The one where we don’t have to give up good picks, of which we have very few of, or good players, of which we also have very few of, is the one I’d be looking at.

We need to add talent not simply swap talent.

So yes; Cogs [emoji1303]

 

[gringo2011]

Quality is quality. There's room for more than one good hit up player in a F50. He does more at ground level than Membrey and doesn't have the contested marking game. They're different enough.

At the tigers he was a marking lead up forward, he's a bit more mobile than Members as well. I always loved watching him play, he was a bit o a clutch goal king in the past. Probably similar to Kent now you mention it so there probably was a spot for him.

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy...d2=8&type=A&pid1=3841&pid2=3976&fid1=S&fid2=S

 

[gringo2011]

He is Jason Blake with upgrades. I’ll take that as the versatility is fantastic in a 22.

He doesn’t move the needle in terms of making us a contender on his own but he moves the needle with a team consisting of Cogniglio Steven Carlisle King And a fit Hanners

I hate the way modern sides pick a guy that can play 7 positions at an adequate level instead of a gun in one position. To me he's always been mostly a loose defender who runs around on a flank, that one position we really don't have too many holes.

 

[plugger66]

What would you pay for Papley though? He's capable of being excellent or a spud depending on the day. I reckon Sydney would want a minimum of a future second.

Not sure if you have watched him this year but would nearly be leading their B and F. Forget this future second stuff. Means nothing. He is much close to 19 than 36. We still need mids and anyway his whole family are swans and he seems happy there. Maybe we chase blokes he aren't happy. Certainly we chase mids who can play elsewhere not players who can have a turn as a mid.

 

[OxSaint]

What would you pay for Papley though? He's capable of being excellent or a spud depending on the day. I reckon Sydney would want a minimum of a future second.

A future second is about right I think. When you think of the player we have secured with end of first round and early seconds (Dunstan,acres,Dmac,Goddard,long) it would be a good outcome for the club.

 

[plugger66]

A future second is about right I think. When you think of the player we have secured with end of first round and early seconds (Dunstan,acres,Dmac,Goddard,long) it would be a good outcome for the club.

Pick 36 would be amazing. The only thing is Sydney would fall on the floor laughing.

 

[Premium]

The one where we don’t have to give up good picks, of which we have very few of, or good players, of which we also have very few of, is the one I’d be looking at.

We need to add talent not simply swap talent.

So yes; Cogs [emoji1303]

dead right

 

[plugger66]

dead right

I love your positivity. You said the same last year and the year before and even though we missed out by the length of the straight with both you still think we will get Cogs. We have a Cogs at Ormond. Reckon we are more hope of getting him to be honest. But I hope you are right. Maybe third time lucky.

 

[stavro#4]

I hate the way modern sides pick a guy that can play 7 positions at an adequate level instead of a gun in one position. To me he's always been mostly a loose defender who runs around on a flank, that one position we really don't have too many holes.

People said the same thing about Blake. In the end he was integral to those back to back grand final sides. A superstar team is better than a team of superstars.

 

[plugger66]

People said the same thing about Blake. In the end he was integral to those back to back grand final sides. A superstar team is better than a team of superstars.

I reckon 22 superstars would win but you can’t have that with salary cap

 

[Wright 1]

 

[bird_man]

A future second is about right I think. When you think of the player we have secured with end of first round and early seconds (Dunstan,acres,Dmac,Goddard,long) it would be a good outcome for the club.

I think he's worth more than a future second. He's a quality footballer amd hes only just hitting his straps.

 

[st_trav_ofWA]

He is Jason Blake with upgrades. I’ll take that as the versatility is fantastic in a 22.

He doesn’t move the needle in terms of making us a contender on his own but he moves the needle with a team consisting of Cogniglio Steven Carlisle King And a fit Hanners

the Thomlinson thing kind of reminds me of the Salopek thing ... for pretty much his entire career was linked to coming to the saints but it never eventuated .. im not convinced that this talk of Thomlinson isnt the same situation