2020 AFL Crowds & Ratings Thread

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Who said people wouldn't pay to see the AFLW matches?

The Age AFLW tickets sell in their thousands
By Anthony Colangelo and Daniel Cherny
January 25, 2021 — 6.49pm
AFLW fans have snapped up thousands of seats to round one of the competition on the first day that all women’s matches charged spectators an entry fee, with Richmond’s Punt Road Oval clash a sellout.
Tickets to AFLW games over the first four seasons have been free – save for a handful of matches where tickets were sold at $2 for operational purposes – but this year spectators will pay $10 entry.
 

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An interesting article from Masters for once but will ne be right?!

Why Kayo could help V’landys land knockout blow to AFL in TV cash fight
Roy Masters
By Roy Masters
January 25, 2021 — 3.45pm

One of my few very rich friends once sat next to the late Cardinal Sin of the Philippines at a fundraising dinner in New York.
The cardinal whispered, loud enough for the nearby bankers to hear: “Money is the devil’s excrement, but it makes for wonderful manure...

Comparisons of broadcasting income for Australia’s two top football codes are notoriously difficult to make, especially when sports bosses hide behind “commercial-in-confidence” clauses, the same way politicians quote “national security” when refusing to answer a journalist’s questions.
V’landys won’t say how much the NRL received to extend its deal with Fox Sports until 2027, stressing it would breach its agreement with the News Corp-owned network, but conceded it was more than the 2018-22 payment.
Peter V’landys may have timed his run when it comes to the NRL’s free-to-air TV rights.

Peter V’landys may have timed his run when it comes to the NRL’s free-to-air TV rights.CREDIT:NICK MOIR
However, the AFL announced on Christmas Eve that it had negotiated a deal with Fox until 2024, with “industry sources” saying the payment for 2023 and 2024 year represented a 25 percent increase and was $150m a year greater in each of these years than the NRL was receiving.
Fox are certainly paying the AFL more than in the previous contract, but Fox are getting more content in return. What the AFL didn’t say is that Telstra, which owns 35 percent of Fox, are cutting back on digital sports rights.

In other words, the AFL is receiving from Fox money formerly paid by Telstra, and Fox is receiving the content which formerly went to Telstra.
Telstra is expected to take a similar line with the NRL. Its contract concludes in 2022 but negotiations are complicated by the telco also having a naming rights deal with the NRL.
However, on an average annual basis, the AFL has done better in its new, two-year extended deal compared to its previous 2017-22 broadcasting contract with Fox, Seven and Telstra - even allowing for the discounts they gave broadcasters for the COVID-19 impacted 2020 season.
Seven paid more for the renegotiated 2020-2024 years, but the big question is whether the debt-burdened network can afford it. “Insiders” estimate that Seven have committed $50m a year more than it can pay and will come knocking on Fox’s door to offload some content.
Fox, also heavily indebted, won’t pay more.

The NRL doesn’t have a free-to-air deal past 2022. It also awarded rights holder, Nine, significant discounts for the 2020-22 seasons. Presumably, Nine used these savings partly to do a deal with rugby league’s historic rival, rugby union.
Rugby Australia concluded a deal late last year with Nine and its streaming arm, Stan Sport, to screen its games.
Furthermore, Stan Sport wasn’t around when V’landys extended his deal with Fox but emerged to offer some competitive tension for Fox’s extension with the AFL.
So, V’landys has been very accommodating to Nine, even making a late change in 2020 at the demand of the broadcaster to speed up the game via a “six-again” rule.
It didn’t lift ratings, which actually declined, but this was largely because Queensland turned off the game when none of its three teams made the top eight.

A Roy Masters classic!

The AFL CEO publicly announced what it is getting for 2023/24...Masters is in contortions trying to present otherwise

You missed the best part....including where he claimed the AFL "got lucky" because the state where ten of its clubs are got locked down!

By contrast, the AFL got lucky with COVID, which locked down Melburnians, forcing them indoors through the 2020 winter where they were treated to a game a night, boosting Seven and Fox ratings.
But V’landys may have timed his run with the sale of free-to-air rights, following the news on Monday that News Corp-owned streaming service Kayo will screen minor sports on to its platform for free.
Could this extend to major sports? Does it mean all of Nine’s current NRL package – State of Origin, three NRL games a week, plus finals- switches over to Kayo?
Fans could click onto Kayo simply by inserting their email address, satisfying the Federal Government’s anti-siphoning legislation.

News Corp would pay a motza to control all of rugby league.
The Telstra/Foxtel announcement late this week, plus the implications of Kayo opening up its service free to “minor” sports, should clear up whether the AFL boast is “complete crap” or, as Cardinal Sin implied, “wonderful manure.”
The NRL going onto Kayo completely - even with games in front of the pay wall - would be the best thing to ever happen to the AFL regardless of what news paid for it
 

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AFLW Rd 1 crowds. Nothing too amazing but all are very decent and they'll be pretty happy with this especially considering most of these venues have a restricted capacity due to covid. For example the Richmond game today was sold-out but 'only' had 1k there.
 

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AFLW Rd 1 crowds. Nothing too amazing but all are very decent and they'll be pretty happy with this especially considering most of these venues have a restricted capacity due to covid. For example the Richmond game today was sold-out but 'only' had 1k there.
Carlton/Collingwood was officially sold out with a 7000 limit on attendance. Would hopefully have got 10k without the limit, which is pretty encouraging.
 

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AFLW Rd 1 crowds. Nothing too amazing but all are very decent and they'll be pretty happy with this especially considering most of these venues have a restricted capacity due to covid. For example the Richmond game today was sold-out but 'only' had 1k there.
Why are crowds so restricted? It is outdoors. Theatres are full, tennis is 50%.
 

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Looks like the AFLW crowds even allowing for the Covid 19 restrictions have dropped quite a bit so far this season! Having to pay to get in could be part of the problem.
perhaps, but it would be unfair to pin it all on that. Covid, either directly or indirectly, is the biggest factor.
 

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Looks like the AFLW crowds even allowing for the Covid 19 restrictions have dropped quite a bit so far this season! Having to pay to get in could be part of the problem.
Playing games in the heat of the day doesn't help. AFL scheduling overall has been terrible. Game of the round was always likely to be Brisbane v Adelaide but they put that on Sunday noon in oppressive heat whilst playing shitty games on Friday night.

I've got no doubt that you'd get 7 or 8000 to Freo oval on a Saturday night. But day games there suck balls.
 

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