List Mgmt. 2020 List Management

[Eiffel 65]

Teague would be tight with some of the players still maybe?

Crouch is an FA? Laird? What would we need to give up for Fogarty?

Look elsewhere. Trust me.

 

[chunkylover53]

Look elsewhere. Trust me.

Why so?

 

[Jeremias]

Think we can forget about Fogarty.

The Crows will be open to moving plenty on, and should be very active, but a 20 year old South Australian is just about the last player they'd entertain getting rid of.

 

[Eiffel 65]

Why so?

Many Crows players pad their stats. They beef them up with unnecessary give and goes and chipping around the half back flank.

Many are overrated in my opinion and there's just something not quite right there at the moment. Whatever it is, there's no need to risk bringing it to our club.

I watched today's game against the Gold Coast Suns. Didn't see a lot from their big names to try and at least square the contest.

 

[Jimmyonesix]

How do all these high-selection 'young' mids coexist; Cripps, Walsh, Setterfield, Fisher, Dow, Stocker, SPS, Kemp, Philp and then adding more to this group?
Not saying they can't as I do see some of these players capable of playing dual positions and some....not so much but too much of the same thing isn't the smartest of moves.

If they all workout what a great problem to have -- being able to off load excess players for high returns is what keeps list alive for longevity Especially if you happen to be high on the ladder when they all peak ..

 

[HARKER]

If they all workout what a great problem to have -- being able to off load excess players for high returns is what keeps list alive for longevity Especially if you happen to be high on the ladder when they all peak ..

It rarely works out that way though and players that aren't absorbed at the front line early in their careers, find a way to get lost.
Look at GWS and all these early picks - O'Rourke, Pickett, Ahern, Kennedy, Bonar, Boyd, McCarthy etc

When players don't get opportunity early........it becomes difficult

 

[F_therest]

Definitely a good problem to have, but we don't want it to disrupt the balance of the team and cause the forward line to breakdown.
Just don't see a Casboult - Harry - Charlie - Gov forward line going forward.

Glad you're optimistic about SPS. I just don't see it, especially the best 10. Hasn't got elite speed to break lines like Martin and Yarran had.
Foot skills are outstanding but he doesn't find the ball enough to use them.

Definitely can't have all those talls in one team...on current form Curnow would probably replace McKay. Levi is no chance of being dropped he's playing so well, gets the opposition's best or biggest defender and is a good chop out ruck. McGovern is building and plays more a third tall role.

It's a moot point though cause it seems like one of those tall forwards is always injured!

I'd like to see SPS in the midfield, but can see him replacing Simmo's role down back. Right now he's a little wasted, but in Simmo's role he would be more involved and distribute out of defence. Simmo isn't any quicker or more explosive than SPS...so the issue would come down to whether SPS can read the game from defence as well as Simmo. We'd then have SPS/Doc/Newman/Willo as our smaller defenders.

 

[F_therest]

Funny you should mention Adelaide players, as I was going to suggest the same.

Maybe we can make more of Fogarty than he's showing at Adelaide. These guys aren't playing for the club.

We don't need another young key forward though and he's Adelaide's most promising youngster and a SA boy...he'd cost us our first pick.

Our needs could change at year's end but I would still say a forward/mid like Papley is needed (Betts needs to be replaced anyway) and/or a gun pure mid.
Papley is still probably the best option though switching between forward/midfield similar to Martin. Being able to throw those 2 into our midfield mix improves us greatly...both play with intensity, toughness and are skillful.

If Simmo retires, we'll be ok for first choice smaller defenders - Doc/Newman/SPS/Willo - but not sure about our depth if any of those guys were to miss a game...might just back in a Stocker/LOB type to play that role. I think we used Setters down back when required as well last year.

 

[Blue1980]

Definitely a good problem to have, but we don't want it to disrupt the balance of the team and cause the forward line to breakdown.
Just don't see a Casboult - Harry - Charlie - Gov forward line going forward.

Glad you're optimistic about SPS. I just don't see it, especially the best 10. Hasn't got elite speed to break lines like Martin and Yarran had.
Foot skills are outstanding but he doesn't find the ball enough to use them.

I see SPS as ahead of all of Setterfield, Dow, LOB, Cuningham, JSOS, Williamson, Polson, Marchbank, Macreadie, and Kennedy from those from around his age. All of those have more questions marks either with having shown less or injury concerns.

In saying that SPS was good r1 and been below par rounds 2 and 3.

 

[F_therest]

It rarely works out that way though and players that aren't absorbed at the front line early in their careers, find a way to get lost.
Look at GWS and all these early picks - O'Rourke, Pickett, Ahern, Kennedy, Bonar, Boyd, McCarthy etc

When players don't get opportunity early........it becomes difficult

Yeah it's not something we've really experienced, but in the next few years we're likely to see high draft picks traded for lower value.

I mean, we've drafted so many mids in the first round in recent years, not all will make it and we couldn't even fit them all in 1 team if we wanted to.

 

[Blue1980]

I feel we may have put this forward....once, twice, three.....100 times.
Doesn't mean that's the way it will play out, but it sems right for now

The other area we must look at is a reliable tall back. If Jones or Weitering go down, what have we got?
Goddard isn't the answer. Macreadie just can't get going. BSilvagni? Can't see it. Casboult? At 31 next year, he's not the answer.
Then there's Marchbank who isn't really a genuine CHB and even if so.....injury.....injury...injury.

We have to consolidate this squad and not squander the young mids because we can't fit them all in....and that's without even raising the possibility of having to thin the squad to ~35. No more young 'unproven' mids.

I’d agree we have enough speculative mids, though I think we are ok in defence for now.

Can always throw Casboult down there if we have to, Goddard is simply backup, Macreadie I expect to be gone at seasons end and Marchbank we know is capable but has trouble getting on the park.

 

[Juice030103]

can someone pls explain why wines is in a port Adelaide jumper?

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

I’d target the following players to address key areas:

1. Ollie Wines
2. Tom Papley (if his circumstances remains unchanged)
3. Rory Laird

Outlandish/Hail Mary:

Leverage Betts’ close relationship with Rankine to lure him (if his family instruct him not to return to SA).

The latter won’t happen anywhere outside of my dreams but the first three targets will require a combination of picks plus a sacrificial lamb of some sort (i.e David Cuningham).

All of the above take us to another level IMO.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Setterfield wasn’t great, but at least we used him in the role he should be used in.

Keep doing that and if he steps up great, if not then we know.

Thought he was good actually TBH.

 

[Jimmyonesix]

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can someone pls explain why wines is in a port Adelaide jumper?

Don't know but he not going to well yet Long time out I suppose .. does look slow

 

[Team DJ]

I reckon we have the small forward of 2021 and beyond on the list.
Josh Honey. Kid has something

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Just having a thought after how our forwards worked so well together last night...

Where does Charlie fit when he comes back?
I think adding another tall in there throws off the balance and with Charlie being so dynamic we might become "buddy conscious". Would love to see Charlie get his body right and have a run in the middle or on the wing "richo" style.

I've been saying this for a while and will continue to say it, SPS isn't a great footballer. Our fans pump him up far too much, he was almost invisible again last night. 5 years in a system and he hasn't shown a lot, only glimpses. I'm hoping Stocker pulls his finger out and takes that HBF spot. SPS just doesn't cut it.

Goal square, with a crap load of space in front of him.

 

[Salt Lake Cities]

I’d target the following players to address key areas:

1. Ollie Wines
2. Tom Papley (if his circumstances remains unchanged)
3. Rory Laird

Outlandish/Hail Mary:

Leverage Betts’ close relationship with Rankine to lure him (if his family instruct him not to return to SA).

The latter won’t happen anywhere outside of my dreams but the first three targets will require a combination of picks plus a sacrificial lamb of some sort (i.e David Cuningham).

All of the above take us to another level IMO.

Marchbank in the Papley trade

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

It’s going to depend on injuries to those younger guys, who can get a good run at it and who comes on, develops and who doesn’t.

There’s no 100% right template and if we end up with more pace than inside grunt or vice versa we need to maximise what we have to greatest effect and look to get what we don’t have.

For example the side could look a lot different if Philp, Dow and lob all come on, and Setterfield and kemp don’t.

Be nice if all of them did, but odds are they won’t all be guns for various reasons.

TBH, I have always thought that LOB should replace Simmo. The sooner the better for LOB but Simmo will be there till seasons end rightly or wrongly.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

Very good mid, very good small forward and a very good lockdown defending small that loves to provide an attacking mindset is what we need.

What is Rory Lairds contract status? Very gettable imo

Papley is definitely gettable

I’d be looking at GWS for the mid before Wines or Crouch


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[FairKouta]

For people that watch the reserves is there anyone we have on the senior list that we should be excited about. Anyone with x factor ?

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

I feel we may have put this forward....once, twice, three.....100 times.
Doesn't mean that's the way it will play out, but it sems right for now

The other area we must look at is a reliable tall back. If Jones or Weitering go down, what have we got?
Goddard isn't the answer. Macreadie just can't get going. BSilvagni? Can't see it. Casboult? At 31 next year, he's not the answer.
Then there's Marchbank who isn't really a genuine CHB and even if so.....injury.....injury...injury.

We have to consolidate this squad and not squander the young mids because we can't fit them all in....and that's without even raising the possibility of having to thin the squad to ~35. No more young 'unproven' mids.

Gov. Who is a defender anyway in my opinion.

 

[Blue1980]

No organization has full unity, especially if expectations outweigh reality

Will say again, we have been where Adelaide are, currently that is a past era

Adelaide look like us circa 2002, on and off the field (minus the salary cap stuff and huge debts). Football/admin and playing group at similar points

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Many Crows players pad their stats. They beef them up with unnecessary give and goes and chipping around the half back flank.

Many are overrated in my opinion and there's just something not quite right there at the moment. Whatever it is, there's no need to risk bringing it to our club.

I watched today's game against the Gold Coast Suns. Didn't see a lot from their big names to try and at least square the contest.

Speaking of the Suns, absolutely think we should look at Brayden Fiorini. OOC there. Pushed out of their 22 atm.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

We don't need another young key forward though and he's Adelaide's most promising youngster and a SA boy...he'd cost us our first pick.

Our needs could change at year's end but I would still say a forward/mid like Papley is needed (Betts needs to be replaced anyway) and/or a gun pure mid.
Papley is still probably the best option though switching between forward/midfield similar to Martin. Being able to throw those 2 into our midfield mix improves us greatly...both play with intensity, toughness and are skillful.

If Simmo retires, we'll be ok for first choice smaller defenders - Doc/Newman/SPS/Willo - but not sure about our depth if any of those guys were to miss a game...might just back in a Stocker/LOB type to play that role. I think we used Setters down back when required as well last year.

IF?