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Listening to Roughy on 360, he mentioned he feels more passionate about being in list management, recruiting, free agency etc and has loved his time with the Saints so far. I hope we somehow manage to keep him and have an active role in our recruiting.
The hub environment the club created this year really should help with retention, some clubs fractured under the circumstances, the signs point to pretty powerful bonding going on at the Saints. He came to us because we offered him the widest scope for his role, by necessity clubs are now looking all over for that with the tightening of caps. We got him (and Rath and Ratts and more) at the right time for the long term.
 

Loved old "Boxhead" Heatley. Such a shame he couldn't make it last a little longer. The first time ever I'd been exposed to the expression Dead-Eye Dick.

Loved beating North, especially at the height of their Paganist powers, not the risable rabble that stands before us today.

Loved watching David King looking impotent and upset: no wonder that hammer has it in for us.

Love the mud bath that footy used to be even in a final in the nineties.

Love the fact that Bruce MacAvaney is still doing it just the same 23 years later. His voice literally hasn't aged. Love him or hate him (I think he's cool personally, I love his weird "hard voice" and endless butler gags), you gotta respect the consistency.

Loved it.
Love it.
 

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Really nice letter to Noosa.

 

Thought this was a great article. Good signs for our group over the next few years
 

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Remember when he said Roo was uphimself before being drafted?

No wonder he didn’t last long. He did nothing anyway


I reckon he could have been a player. Ross wasn't big on fringe players getting games.
 
I reckon he could have been a player. Ross wasn't big on fringe players getting games.
Either way you don’t disrespect a champion of the game on the back of decent form in the sanfl :p
 
St Kilda will be going over to New Balance for our jumpers.
 

Thought this was a great article. Good signs for our group over the next few years
Well that confirms two things I already thought

We really do seem to be on the right track for a sustained period of quality football

Buckley is a spectacularly terrible coach

Both of these are significantly pleasing
 

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This just popped up randomly and I had to give it a watch. How good were we!

Cotchin reported for a strike early. Grub has form. Gilbert's tackle after 04:30 made me smile.
But how about those names. Koby Stevens was great, Monty kicked a few long bombs and even Longer chimed in with a goal.
 


This just popped up randomly and I had to give it a watch. How good were we!

Cotchin reported for a strike early. Grub has form. Gilbert's tackle after 04:30 made me smile.
But how about those names. Koby Stevens was great, Monty kicked a few long bombs and even Longer chimed in with a goal.



You can't help wondering what if with a better coach. That list looks better than what we have now. Koby was uneven but on his day he looked like a superstar.
 
Gary Buckenara analyses St Kilda’s list after the 2020 season
Adam Treloar could be on the way out of Collingwood but while he’d be a handy pick-up for the Saints, he shouldn’t be a priority. Gary Buckenara reveals why as he analyses St Kilda’s list.

Playing finals this year is the first step towards St Kilda winning the second premiership in the club’s history but the hardest part is yet to come.
If we’re being realistic, making the finals is actually the easy target to reach as you build a list you hope can eventually challenge for a flag but taking the next steps is very difficult. It gets harder and harder to progress and stay in the window to challenge because teams improve every year, so clubs must keep improving their list to get it in a position to make top four, then hopefully a preliminary final and then a Grand Final.

The Saints will be a finals contender again next year and if everything goes right, they can challenge for the premiership in 2022 or 2023 but it’s easier said than done.

St Kilda’s list is showing signs of becoming a serious premiership threat and improved consistency this season is a reflection on the growth within the playing group combined with a fresh coaching outlook from Brett Ratten. With 14 B-grade players and five players aged 21 or under with A-B grade potential coming through, including Max King, Josh Battle, Hunter Clark and Nick Coffield who had breakout seasons, there is a good base there. But the biggest issue that continues to hold the Saints back is the lack of top-end talent. St Kilda still doesn’t have any A-graders.

The inclusion of Bradley Hill, Zak Jones, Paddy Ryder, Dougal Howard and Dan Butler has helped to inject more leg speed and ball-winning ability into a team that was bland and one-paced but that’s only the beginning. The Saints still have holes in their list that need filling, including more outside runners and creative halfbacks with elite kicking skills, before they can take that difficult next step in becoming a top-four team.

It’s over to the list management and recruiting staff to identify players from rival clubs who can come in and add star power to help take this team to the next level. Be aggressive, make calls to players like Ben Brown and Adam Treloar because you never know what answer you’ll get unless you ask the question.

LIST NEEDS
St Kilda has a reasonably balanced list but they need another key defender. Jake Carlisle is out of contract – is he the man to play on the big key forwards like Tom Lynch and Tom Hawkins? They’re the types of players St Kilda will need to stop if they’re to go deep in the finals and be a serious premiership contender.

Jack Steele’s emergence this year was impressive but the Saints can’t rely on him to do all the work, they need another big-bodied midfielder in the middle to provide more toughness around stoppages, while they need outside runners and rebounding defenders with pace and elite kicking skills. The return of Jade Gresham next year will be handy.

TRADE TARGETS
St Kilda will land Brad Crouch from Adelaide who will be a fantastic addition and add that extra bit of toughness in the midfield.

The Saints should look at Treloar but only if Collingwood is willing to pay some of his mega contract over the next few years. Treloar can play as an outside runner and has that pace they need but I wouldn’t make him a priority given the Saints only have pick No.15 at their disposal and the Magpies will want more than that. A trade looks very difficult.

Melbourne’s Tom McDonald would be a smart target and while he’s been played as a key forward for the last 3-4 years, he’s best suited down back. That’s not to say he can’t be moved forward at times – players who can play at both ends are very valuable.

Daniel Talia was linked to a trade to Essendon, so if he’s interested in a move out of Adelaide he’s exactly the type of player that can help propel the Saints from a 6-8 side to a potential top-four team. He’s been one of the game’s most reliable defenders but given he’s 29, I think a pick in the 30-40 range would be a fair trade. It would be a very good deal for the Saints.

St Kilda should also ask the question of Michael Hurley given Essendon is in a rebuild/refresh phase.

UNTOUCHABLES
Battle, Butler, Clark, Coffield, Gresham, Hill, Jones, M. King, Steele, Jack Billings, Jarryn Geary, Dougal Howard, Rowan Marshall, Tim Membrey, Ben Paton, Seb Ross, Jack Sinclair and Callum Wilkie.

TRADE BAIT
Carlisle is a player who could be put on the trade table to see if there’s any interest and get a deal done to as a more reliable key defender to play on the big forwards.

Jack Lonie is a handy player but he doesn’t do enough and could benefit from a new environment. I think he’s a player that would be of interest to clubs looking for a clever small forward, such as Carlton.

Luke Dunstan is a high draft pick that barely featured this year and could be used in a trade with Adelaide along with a late draft pick to secure Talia. Dunstan is a South Australian who might appreciate a return home. At 25 years of age, he’s in the right age bracket for the Crows.

RATING THE LIST
A-grade: Nil

B: Billings, Butler, Carlisle, Geary, Gresham, Hill, Howard, Jones, Marshall, Membrey, Ross, Sinclair, Steele, Wilkie

C: Alabakis, Dunstan, Hannebery, Hind, Joyce, Kent, Long, Lonie, Marsh, McKenzie, Parker, Phillips, Roberton, Ryder, Savage, Webster

Developing (with A-B grade potential): Battle, Clark, Coffield, King, Paton

Developing: Byrnes, Bytel, Clavarino, Connolly

What the ratings mean:

A-grade: Elite player on any AFL list

B: Top 10-18 player on most lists

C: An 18-30 player on a list

Developing: Aged 21 or under


CRYSTAL BALL
It was terrific to see St Kilda play finals in 2020 and there are signs that this might be the start of a premiership challenge over the next couple of years, but whether that ultimate goal is achievable will depend on how well the playing group comes together under Ratten and how well the list management and recruiting teams can add to the list over the next two years. There are holes that need to be filled before the Saints can seriously announce themselves and getting an A-grade star is a must. With more maturity and growth from the playing list over the pre-season, I can see the Saints being a finals contender again next year and challenging for a flag in 2022 or 2023.

 
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