List Mgmt. 2020 Trade Thread - Part I

[CaptainRisky]

The question is, if Caldwell is as good as done to us... what do we give?

Wester and DMac should get it done

 

[_Maximus_12]

Would have to be our first rounder now.

It sits at 15 right now and will slide back once the free agency compo is dished out.

Yeah it'll be 18 in 3 weeks time too, which probably works in our favour

 

[ScrappyDo]

He was an u18 All Australian so he must have played some good football to warrant being drafting.

He co/captained vic metro too IIRC.

He was a very good intercepting defender when they were all the rage, but skinny and not particularly athletic.
Couldn't body and wasn't fast, but read the play well and marked well.

He was also a big slider that year, and not that l have any evidence, but maybe it was for a reason.
Perhaps a bit of the Charlie Constables about it.

When interviewed, Trout bristled and l still just have the feeling it might have been his pick.

Has similar trates to Carlisle, so l hope to god there's a smooth succession gonna happen, but we're all obviously none the wiser ATM.

I know Risky is still on the bandwagon, but l can't recall a positive review from any other Sandy watcher..

 

[gringo2011]

The question is, if Caldwell is as good as done to us... what do we give?

Maybe our 2020 FRDP and get a later pick back perhaps a second rounder. I reckon GWS will play hard ball if they wanted to hold on to him. A future second would be ideal for us.

 

[RWB4life]

Maybe our 2020 FRDP and get a later pick back perhaps a second rounder. I reckon GWS will play hard ball if they wanted to hold on to him. A future second would be ideal for us.

They have stuff all picks this year from memory, I'd hope we push for this year's first and maybe next year's third for Caldwell and a second rounder from either year.

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[bird_man]

Maybe our 2020 FRDP and get a later pick back perhaps a second rounder. I reckon GWS will play hard ball if they wanted to hold on to him. A future second would be ideal for us.

14 will turn into 16 or 17 after free agency.

I think we'd be getting our hopes expecting anything close to a 2nd back.

 

[Keg still on legs]

The question is, if Caldwell is as good as done to us... what do we give?

The 2021 flag one hell of a shake?

 

[ScrappyDo]

Maybe our 2020 FRDP and get a later pick back perhaps a second rounder. I reckon GWS will play hard ball if they wanted to hold on to him. A future second would be ideal for us.

Can't see a 2nd, but a 3rd is reasonable.

Pundits seem to think only about 50 kids will be drafted, so there will be little difference between a 3rd or a 4th should you wish to use it for drafting.

Posters from Essendon, the Scum and the Dogs seem to think Dunny and Lonie are worth a 2nd with a 3rd back.
So in mind we lose the FRDP, then roll the 3rd in with Dunny/Lonie for a 2nd.

Not a bad outcome.
1st + Dunny/Lonie
=
2nd + Caldwell

I'd be trying hard to dig Bobby Hill out too, and I'd be prepared to sacrifice Lonie to do it.
But, Bobby has 2 more years IIRC, so a 2 year deal for Lone Dog is more likely.

 

[stfan]

The question is, if Caldwell is as good as done to us... what do we give?

He was a Pick #11 . But is also uncontracted

Quite possibly our first with a hopefully a pick back to us for our "Butler" 200 Pickup .

 

[Veer Right]

What's happening with Lonie and Paton? Surely we resign them...

 

[PoppedCorn]

Patts is going nowhere

 

[ScrappyDo]

What's happening with Lonie and Paton? Surely we resign them...

Patto will stay, and Lonie will probably make us match his other offers for $$$ at least, which is absolutely fair enough..

No one will be wanting to leave, but inevitably someone will..

 

[borderbarry]

If we do have Caldwell tied up, who do we chase now?

 

[Joffaboy]

If we do have Caldwell tied up, who do we chase now?

I would seriously look at Higgins, but Gags and Gubby will have a Doogs or Butler up their sleeves.

 

[hayes]

If we do have Caldwell tied up, who do we chase now?

Another midfielder. More more more.

 

[Savage Kent]

Maybe our 2020 FRDP and get a later pick back perhaps a second rounder. I reckon GWS will play hard ball if they wanted to hold on to him. A future second would be ideal for us.

I reckon we try our luck and split our pick with a club like the crows who have two 2nd round picks.

We give pick 15 + Dunstan for pick 20 & 30. We might need to add a sweetener to that deal. In turn we try to push pick 30 to GWS for Caldwell. Could live with giving up pick 20 and taking 30 to the draft.

 

[mighty_sainters]

I wonder what the long term plan is with Bytel. Adding Caldwell to our midfield group doesn't give a hell of a lot of opportunity to Jack but surely we try and sign him up fairly soon.

 

[snails13]

I cannot think of one reason why he wouldn't.

His body has held up very well until the weekend and in as good of form he's been in since his AA year.

Is Paddy related to Shaun Burgoyne.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

I reckon we try our luck and split our pick with a club like the crows who have two 2nd round picks.

We give pick 15 + Dunstan for pick 20 & 30. We might need to add a sweetener to that deal. In turn we try to push pick 30 to GWS for Caldwell. Could live with giving up pick 20 and taking 30 to the draft.

The latter would even be borderline cheating. Do it!

 

[Moral Decay]

I wonder what the long term plan is with Bytel. Adding Caldwell to our midfield group doesn't give a hell of a lot of opportunity to Jack but surely we try and sign him up fairly soon.

I'm not so concerned about Bytel, I expect more pushing of mids to small forwards, Gresh, Billings and Hanners, to push Sinclair, Kent and Lonie potentially out of best 22.

Caldwell, Bytel and Byrnes plus one more mid for depth and genuine selection pressure.

 

[Savage Kent]

I reckon we try our luck and split our pick with a club like the crows who have two 2nd round picks.

We give pick 15 + Dunstan for pick 20 & 30. We might need to add a sweetener to that deal. In turn we try to push pick 30 to GWS for Caldwell. Could live with giving up pick 20 and taking 30 to the draft.

To add to this trade I'd look at giving crows our 2021 2nd for their 2021 3rd round pick.

As we will be premiers and crows receive another spoon, will push our pick back by 1 . Seriously I'd look at this swap. Back ourselves next year.

 

[PrinceofSeaford]

Will be shattered if lonie leaves because we push him out

 

[gringo2011]

14 will turn into 16 or 17 after free agency.

I think we'd be getting our hopes expecting anything close to a 2nd back.

He's not established yet but contract length and value might override that. usually players lose value until they are genuinely best 22. They aren't a struggling club with hardly any young stars either. They get top kids cheap every year and can't fit them all.

 

[Remboy]

Will be shattered if lonie leaves because we push him out

Usually he only gets offered one year. It will be interesting to see if he gets two this year.

 

[gringo2011]

I would seriously look at Higgins, but Gags and Gubby will have a Doogs or Butler up their sleeves.

I reckon the stats guy we got from the Hawks is the money ball man. Howard, Jones and Butler are all stats that matter types.