List Mgmt. 2020 Trade Thread - Part III

[chris_h_11]

What a sad situation for Stuv. I hope he can make peace with whatever his issues are and live out a fulfilling life away from the AFL.

Geelong have been disgraceful in the whole situation - another reason to hate those cap-dodging bastards.

But that ship has sailed, I don't want him back at the club.

 

[lethalsaints]

Jack Steven

9

Jack Steven

Age

36

Ht

180cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.7

5star

K

12.7

5star

HB

11.0

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.5

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.8

4star

CL

2.5

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

4.8

5star

CL

0.8

3star

no thanks. Showed his hand already, not afl standard either. Cat 4 life

 

[LiterallyNobody]

Nobody remembers Nicky playing for Footscray, will always be a Saint

EXACTLY!

Nobody remember Dal Santo playing for North either - he will also always be a saint. Listen to him in the media and you can tell he still loves the saints.

 

[Keg still on legs]

Feel for Stuv but he can look back and be proud of the player he was. Will always be a saint.

 

[Armoooo]

Nobody remembers Nicky playing for Footscray, will always be a Saint

This, I will always remember Steven fondly.

At the end of the day, he had issues that held him back from being a part of something special. Hope he finds a way out of his troubles.

 

[PostmanBish]

Part of me wants him back. He could be the difference in a big final.

Then I remember how the deal went down, all the sh*t he has going on off the field etc and I think it's better to keep him away from this group.

A part of me wants to say "Hey Stuv, we'll give you 100K to get in shape, play with Lorne, come in for our main session once per week, but be available if we get injuries ... no pressure", mainly because he's been a loyal servant through some crappy years for us, I think he's still got some gas in the tank, and I don't think Geelong dropping him like a soggy chip will do him much good on the mental health front.

But it's the off-field stuff ... we wouldn't be able to sweep a stabbing under the rug, for example, which would be the concern.

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

We do not under any circumstances want Steven back. Good luck for the future at Lorne.

 

[bird_man]

Nah. It's fuuuuuuuuuscia

Anyone else think that campaigner sounds like Agro?

 

[The_Steadier]

P MaCartin
J Steven

Maybe richo in as a director of coaching??!!

Gaining momentum flamigo style!

 

[Joffaboy]

I think the vitriol towards Geelong in this case is misplaced. They were correct in giving us a trash dp as it looks like Jack went downhill fast. Not in their plans going forward. Can't see what's wrong with that.

With the two picks we got for Bruce and Stuv, the teams recruiting them were correct and we in hindsight have gone Ok out of it, something like Jones and Byrnes.

 

[LeonardHayes87]

We do not under any circumstances want Steven back. Good luck for the future at Lorne.

Any update on Higgins MG?

 

[DarkSaint]

I think the vitriol towards Geelong in this case are misplaced. They were correct in giving us a trash dp as it looks like Jack went downhill fast. Not in their plans going forward. Can't see what's wrong with that.

With the two picks we got for Bruce and Stuv, the teams recruiting them were correct and we in hindsight have gone Ok out of it, something like Jones and Byrnes.

Agree

Let's be honest i think both clubs knew the issues that Stuv had hence us accepting such a low pick. Cats took a gamble to see if they could scrape 1 or 2 years out of him at a half decent level, but it didn't work out for both.

Will always be remembered as a Saint. And a fantastic one at that!

 

[MonsterEatsPilot]

I think the vitriol towards Geelong in this case is misplaced. They were correct in giving us a trash dp as it looks like Jack went downhill fast. Not in their plans going forward. Can't see what's wrong with that.

With the two picks we got for Bruce and Stuv, the teams recruiting them were correct and we in hindsight have gone Ok out of it, something like Jones and Byrnes.

Nah, not good enough. They lured him out of our list with the promise of a 2 year contract, then dump him unceremoniously before the 12 month mark is even up. Garbage attitude from a garbage club, hopefully any of the older trade prospects linked with them are watching on closely.

 

[BrutThough]

Zac Langdon

7

Zac Langdon

Age

30

Ht

177cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.3

2star

K

3.3

1star

HB

3.0

3star

M

1.3

2star

T

3.3

5star

G

0.3

3star

D

6.3

1star

K

3.3

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

1.3

1star

T

3.3

4star

G

0.3

3star

D

6.3

2star

K

3.3

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

1.3

2star

T

3.3

5star

G

0.3

3star

to WC for pick 54.

We need to be asking for more for Lonie than a pick in the 50s if thats what Langdon is going for.

 

[Joffaboy]

Nah, not good enough. They lured him out of our list with the promise of a 2 year contract, then dump him unceremoniously before the 12 month mark is even up. Garbage attitude from a garbage club, hopefully any of the older trade prospects linked with them are watching on closely.

He either played for Geelong or he retired. He was never staying at the Saints.

Wouldn't mind us being so garbage we win 3 flags in 5 years but Ok.

 

[snails13]

Agree

Let's be honest i think both clubs knew the issues that Stuv had hence us accepting such a low pick. Cats took a gamble to see if they could scrape 1 or 2 years out of him at a half decent level, but it didn't work out for both.

Will always be remembered as a Saint. And a fantastic one at that!

Asking for a Trade to be closer to home and then going into a hub situation in another State most likely didn't help I wouldn't have thought

 

[jimmytigs]

who drew zac langdon

7

Zac Langdon

Age

30

Ht

177cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.3

2star

K

3.3

1star

HB

3.0

3star

M

1.3

2star

T

3.3

5star

G

0.3

3star

D

6.3

1star

K

3.3

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

1.3

1star

T

3.3

4star

G

0.3

3star

D

6.3

2star

K

3.3

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

1.3

2star

T

3.3

5star

G

0.3

3star

in the"first trade to go down"sweep?your a winner

 

[LiterallyNobody]

I think the vitriol towards Geelong in this case is misplaced. They were correct in giving us a trash dp as it looks like Jack went downhill fast. Not in their plans going forward. Can't see what's wrong with that.

With the two picks we got for Bruce and Stuv, the teams recruiting them were correct and we in hindsight have gone Ok out of it, something like Jones and Byrnes.

I agree in this case it is misplaced but frankly I think any vitriol the cats receive is justified. And maybe the deal to get him there was fair enough but how they have treated him just a year later is disappointing to say the least.

Honestly I think the whole situation is just horrible for Steven. Hope he is okay.

 

[sammm]

Love the talk that Adel are trying to shop Crouch around for other suiters. 2 issues:

1) Nobody else is willing to come close to the contract we have offered
2) even if they found a club, Brad has to agree to go there and he's committed to us.

He has emotionally checked out of Adel. He ain't going back.

Take the 23 and use it to work up to the Dogs pick

and itsnot like they don't have many picks. they have picks 1 and 9 and plenty others

 

[LiterallyNobody]

Asking for a Trade to be closer to home and then going into a hub situation in another State most likely didn't help I wouldn't have thought

Exactly, and people whinge about Hill not playing so well this year - I really think we need to write 2020 off in terms of player output. Hell, it kills me but even Bruce will be better when he's back under the roof like he's used to.

Don't forget his best game all year was under the roof...

 

[kernelT]

Nah, not good enough. They lured him out of our list with the promise of a 2 year contract, then dump him unceremoniously before the 12 month mark is even up. Garbage attitude from a garbage club, hopefully any of the older trade prospects linked with them are watching on closely.

We also heard the "think of the players welfare" when asked to take a low pick and help get him across with minimal friction.

Now the welfare of this guy isn't an issue… pay him out and dump him from his job thus ending a 15 year career, can't be ideal for someone with serious mental demons.

 

[sammm]

Dunstan on $400k likely to go
Savage on $300k likely to go
Lonie on $250k likely to go
Carlisle on $650k hasn’t re-signed and possibly goes
Webster on $600k possibly goes
Roberton on $600k possibly goes

noone is going to take up Roberton.

 

[MonsterEatsPilot]

He either played for Geelong or he retired. He was never staying at the Saints.

Wouldn't mind us being so garbage we win 3 flags in 5 years but Ok.

Geelong have stockpiled mature talent and done nothing with it for near on a decade.. the coach that led them to those 3 flags is trying to avoid jail on drugs charges. I'd much rather be us than them right now. We are closer to our next flag than they are.

 

[Parkers tatts]

We do not under any circumstances want Steven back. Good luck for the future at Lorne.

Geelong should have to pay him $150,000 next year and jack could get given a role suited to him in a transition role to life after footy or something. I don’t see him as an advocate for a cause or wanting spotlight but if he is cut loose it wouldnt be good for his welfare

 

[Roddy Grant]

We also heard the "think of the players welfare" when asked to take a low pick and help get him across with minimal friction.

Now the welfare of this guy isn't an issue… pay him out and dump him from his job thus ending a 15 year career, can't be ideal for someone with serious mental demons.

Agree 100% with this mate, let's see if the media torch Geelong for this. I doubt it.

Player welfare was part of the narrative back then but that is out the window now because it doesn't suit their list management strategy this year.