List Mgmt. 2021 Draft picks: 4/33/75

[Deaneus!]

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[latinoheat]

Here is what I would like from this draft with our first and second picks;


Neil Erasmus
Subiaco/Western Australia | Midfielder
2/12/2003 | 188cm | 80kg
August Ranking: #9
Snapshot: Initially an exciting forward who has since transitioned wonderfully well into midfield, Erasmus lays claim to eye-catching traits both aerially and at ground level.
Arguably Western Australia’s leading prospect, Erasmus has built on the promise he showed in last year’s WAFL Colts grand final which saw him come into 2021 as a first round bolter. He burst onto the scene with four goals in that 2020 decider, showcasing clean hands up forward after putting in a terrific PSA Football campaign. While he was played off half-forward and the wing as an AFL Academy call-up, Erasmus has proven himself to be quite the consistent ball winner through midfield this year, bringing some spark to the engine room. He has a great vertical leap and can impact both aerially and at ground level, with scoreboard impact remaining in his back pocket.

Or


Josh Sinn
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro | Defender/Midfielder
7/01/2003 | 186cm | 82kg
August Ranking: #11
Snapshot: A line-breaking half-back who has shown promising development in midfield, Sinn’s greatest strengths are his speed and kick penetration.
Another established leader among the Victorian crop as one of Sandringham’s co-captains, Sinn’s best is as damaging as anyone in the overall draft pool. He is regarded as the most damaging technical kick in the Dragons’ program and is given the license to look for options others simply wouldn’t. His penetrative boot and line-breaking speed make him a meters gained machine, observed most significantly with his well-timed runs off half-back or on the wing. Sinn has also moved onto the inside to good effect, showing a handy balance of traits and utilising the size he added during last year’s lost season. His campaign has been interrupted by injury, but he looked close to regaining top form at times



then;

Blake Howes
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro | Forward/Wing
7/04/2003 | 190cm | 79kg

August Ranking: NR

Snapshot: One of the best athletes available in this year’s draft, Howes boasts a terrific aerial game but also competes well at ground level and shows promising versatility.

While unranked last month, Howes is one who previously featured in our top 25 and is a player who should be well known to keen draft watchers. He was an All Australian at Under 16 level, plying his trade as a high-marking medium forward with wonderful athleticism and clean hands. While he started the year off in that usual forward post, Howes has since shown his versatility with a shift to the wing and is a classic high-ceiling type of prospect. He was included in this year’s initial AFL Academy intake and continues to back up that selection with form fitting of his potential as a mainstay in the Sandringham Dragons’ side




or

Tom Brown
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country | Medium Defender
30/07/2003 | 186cm | 71kg

August Ranking: #22

Snapshot: A dashing half-back with terrific athleticism in the form of speed and a vertical leap, Brown is a bolting talent who you’ll likely miss if you blink.

While Geelong gained access to sister, Millie via father-daughter rules, Tom Brown is ineligible to be drafted by the Cats under the father-son category as his father Paul falls just short of the 100-game qualification. Nonetheless, the Murray Bushrangers prospect has plenty of eye-catching traits which will help him blaze his own trail. A Vic Country Under 16 and now Under 19 representative, Brown is capable of playing on each line but looks to have found a home across half-back,




then a project ruck Or KPF. I wouldn’t draft a small forward as I would hope to lure Rankine back next year.

 

[DJ75]

We have Sholl, who's very outside .....do we need another in NWM

Sometimes you have to overlook good players for the sake of getting the mix of your squad right ......case in point, trading Lyons

I'm certainly not saying NWM won't be a valuable player for the right club

I get what you are saying, however, using his 2nd half of the season, Sholl is no certainty to make the grade long term. Seedsman has 1-2 seasons left. The options outside of this are pretty limited - Milera? Hamill?
Cook looks likely, but plays a bit taller and isn't a normal fast outside winger. Our midfielders are primarily inside ball winners - Sloane, Crouch, Laird, Keays, Berry, Pedlar, Hately, so an outside skilled player isn't the worst option.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Here is what I would like from this draft with our first and second picks;


Neil Erasmus
Subiaco/Western Australia | Midfielder
2/12/2003 | 188cm | 80kg
August Ranking: #9
Snapshot: Initially an exciting forward who has since transitioned wonderfully well into midfield, Erasmus lays claim to eye-catching traits both aerially and at ground level.
Arguably Western Australia’s leading prospect, Erasmus has built on the promise he showed in last year’s WAFL Colts grand final which saw him come into 2021 as a first round bolter. He burst onto the scene with four goals in that 2020 decider, showcasing clean hands up forward after putting in a terrific PSA Football campaign. While he was played off half-forward and the wing as an AFL Academy call-up, Erasmus has proven himself to be quite the consistent ball winner through midfield this year, bringing some spark to the engine room. He has a great vertical leap and can impact both aerially and at ground level, with scoreboard impact remaining in his back pocket.

Or


Josh Sinn
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro | Defender/Midfielder
7/01/2003 | 186cm | 82kg
August Ranking: #11
Snapshot: A line-breaking half-back who has shown promising development in midfield, Sinn’s greatest strengths are his speed and kick penetration.
Another established leader among the Victorian crop as one of Sandringham’s co-captains, Sinn’s best is as damaging as anyone in the overall draft pool. He is regarded as the most damaging technical kick in the Dragons’ program and is given the license to look for options others simply wouldn’t. His penetrative boot and line-breaking speed make him a meters gained machine, observed most significantly with his well-timed runs off half-back or on the wing. Sinn has also moved onto the inside to good effect, showing a handy balance of traits and utilising the size he added during last year’s lost season. His campaign has been interrupted by injury, but he looked close to regaining top form at times



then;

Blake Howes
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro | Forward/Wing
7/04/2003 | 190cm | 79kg

August Ranking: NR

Snapshot: One of the best athletes available in this year’s draft, Howes boasts a terrific aerial game but also competes well at ground level and shows promising versatility.

While unranked last month, Howes is one who previously featured in our top 25 and is a player who should be well known to keen draft watchers. He was an All Australian at Under 16 level, plying his trade as a high-marking medium forward with wonderful athleticism and clean hands. While he started the year off in that usual forward post, Howes has since shown his versatility with a shift to the wing and is a classic high-ceiling type of prospect. He was included in this year’s initial AFL Academy intake and continues to back up that selection with form fitting of his potential as a mainstay in the Sandringham Dragons’ side




or

Tom Brown
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country | Medium Defender
30/07/2003 | 186cm | 71kg

August Ranking: #22

Snapshot: A dashing half-back with terrific athleticism in the form of speed and a vertical leap, Brown is a bolting talent who you’ll likely miss if you blink.

While Geelong gained access to sister, Millie via father-daughter rules, Tom Brown is ineligible to be drafted by the Cats under the father-son category as his father Paul falls just short of the 100-game qualification. Nonetheless, the Murray Bushrangers prospect has plenty of eye-catching traits which will help him blaze his own trail. A Vic Country Under 16 and now Under 19 representative, Brown is capable of playing on each line but looks to have found a home across half-back,




then a project ruck Or KPF. I wouldn’t draft a small forward as I would hope to lure Rankine back next year.

We need an xfactor small forward before we need another small/medium defender..

 

[Mutineer]

Here is what I would like from this draft with our first and second picks;


Neil Erasmus
Subiaco/Western Australia | Midfielder
2/12/2003 | 188cm | 80kg
August Ranking: #9
Snapshot: Initially an exciting forward who has since transitioned wonderfully well into midfield, Erasmus lays claim to eye-catching traits both aerially and at ground level.
Arguably Western Australia’s leading prospect, Erasmus has built on the promise he showed in last year’s WAFL Colts grand final which saw him come into 2021 as a first round bolter. He burst onto the scene with four goals in that 2020 decider, showcasing clean hands up forward after putting in a terrific PSA Football campaign. While he was played off half-forward and the wing as an AFL Academy call-up, Erasmus has proven himself to be quite the consistent ball winner through midfield this year, bringing some spark to the engine room. He has a great vertical leap and can impact both aerially and at ground level, with scoreboard impact remaining in his back pocket.

Or


Josh Sinn
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro | Defender/Midfielder
7/01/2003 | 186cm | 82kg
August Ranking: #11
Snapshot: A line-breaking half-back who has shown promising development in midfield, Sinn’s greatest strengths are his speed and kick penetration.
Another established leader among the Victorian crop as one of Sandringham’s co-captains, Sinn’s best is as damaging as anyone in the overall draft pool. He is regarded as the most damaging technical kick in the Dragons’ program and is given the license to look for options others simply wouldn’t. His penetrative boot and line-breaking speed make him a meters gained machine, observed most significantly with his well-timed runs off half-back or on the wing. Sinn has also moved onto the inside to good effect, showing a handy balance of traits and utilising the size he added during last year’s lost season. His campaign has been interrupted by injury, but he looked close to regaining top form at times



then;

Blake Howes
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro | Forward/Wing
7/04/2003 | 190cm | 79kg

August Ranking: NR

Snapshot: One of the best athletes available in this year’s draft, Howes boasts a terrific aerial game but also competes well at ground level and shows promising versatility.

While unranked last month, Howes is one who previously featured in our top 25 and is a player who should be well known to keen draft watchers. He was an All Australian at Under 16 level, plying his trade as a high-marking medium forward with wonderful athleticism and clean hands. While he started the year off in that usual forward post, Howes has since shown his versatility with a shift to the wing and is a classic high-ceiling type of prospect. He was included in this year’s initial AFL Academy intake and continues to back up that selection with form fitting of his potential as a mainstay in the Sandringham Dragons’ side




or

Tom Brown
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country | Medium Defender
30/07/2003 | 186cm | 71kg

August Ranking: #22

Snapshot: A dashing half-back with terrific athleticism in the form of speed and a vertical leap, Brown is a bolting talent who you’ll likely miss if you blink.

While Geelong gained access to sister, Millie via father-daughter rules, Tom Brown is ineligible to be drafted by the Cats under the father-son category as his father Paul falls just short of the 100-game qualification. Nonetheless, the Murray Bushrangers prospect has plenty of eye-catching traits which will help him blaze his own trail. A Vic Country Under 16 and now Under 19 representative, Brown is capable of playing on each line but looks to have found a home across half-back,




then a project ruck Or KPF. I wouldn’t draft a small forward as I would hope to lure Rankine back next year.

Blake Howes would be an excellent selection with our 2nd or 3rd, a big upside guy.

Not sure Erasmus's kicking is that of a pick 4 on the limited viewings I've had.

 

[Big Crow]

Blake Howes would be an excellent selection with our 2nd or 3rd, a big upside guy.

Not sure Erasmus's kicking is that of a pick 4 on the limited viewings I've had.

So going on previous drafting history we’ll inexplicably take one of them with our first rounder, then draft several diamonds in the rough late who turn out to be jets.

 

[Bearded Clam]

I get what you are saying, however, using his 2nd half of the season, Sholl is no certainty to make the grade long term. Seedsman has 1-2 seasons left. The options outside of this are pretty limited - Milera? Hamill?
Cook looks likely, but plays a bit taller and isn't a normal fast outside winger. Our midfielders are primarily inside ball winners - Sloane, Crouch, Laird, Keays, Berry, Pedlar, Hately, so an outside skilled player isn't the worst option.

Sholl was cooked in the second half of the season.. absolutely cooked.

And if you take a look at his metres gained/ground covered stats in the first half of the season you’d totally understand why a young player in Sholl was cooked.. he was immense.. he covered an enormous amount or ground.. no. 1 in the league I believe.

Burgess will help there.

Sholl will be a gun. Just needs another big preseason or two. He’s still only 21. He’ll start to reach peak fitness around 23..

 

[Mutineer]

We need an xfactor small forward before we need another small/medium defender..

Ned Cahill was delisted by Essendon after really very limited opportunities due to Covid and very little VFL to hone his skills.
Not that far of Cody Weightman in their draft year.

Available as a delisted free agent now.

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Cooper Murley is the SA prospect in this draft that best suits our needs in that area.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I get what you are saying, however, using his 2nd half of the season, Sholl is no certainty to make the grade long term. Seedsman has 1-2 seasons left. The options outside of this are pretty limited - Milera? Hamill?

Sholl started the season off very well & then fell off a cliff .....his talent didn't disappear, oppo clubs attention did ramp up .....I'm very wary of judging players on their 2nd year

Would also be a reason behind chasing Dawson .....perfect fit to replace a Seedsman type for a flag push

Cook looks likely, but plays a bit taller and isn't a normal fast outside winger. Our midfielders are primarily inside ball winners - Sloane, Crouch, Laird, Keays, Berry, Pedlar, Hately, so an outside skilled player isn't the worst option.

Totally agree .....hence why a Callaghan / Erasmus would be high on our list of draftees .....need a bit of outside run with good foot skills ....Milera will also help ...fingers crossed the black cat he kicked, the two have made up & all has been forgiven, and he can have an injury free run at it now ....elite talent, still at the start of his career

 

[latinoheat]

We need an xfactor small forward before we need another small/medium defender..

I agree, but I’m hoping Rankine fills that void. We also have Rowe, McHenry , murphy possibly McAdam and newchurch who could play that role .

 

[latinoheat]

Sholl started the season off very well & then fell off a cliff .....his talent didn't disappear, oppo clubs attention did ramp up .....I'm very wary of judging players on their 2nd year

Would also be a reason behind chasing Dawson .....perfect fit to replace a Seedsman type for a flag push


Totally agree .....hence why a Callaghan / Erasmus would be high on our list of draftees .....need a bit of outside run with good foot skills ....Milera will also help ...fingers crossed the black cat he kicked, the two have made up & all has been forgiven, and he can have an injury free run at it now ....elite talent, still at the start of his career

I’m hoping Erasmus can turn into that tall midfielder that can play forward like a Petracca or a Fyfe or a Danger.

 

[triggyscrewedus]

Sholl was cooked in the second half of the season.. absolutely cooked.

And if you take a look at his metres gained/ground covered stats in the first half of the season you’d totally understand why a young player in Sholl was cooked.. he was immense.. he covered an enormous amount or ground.. no. 1 in the league I believe.

Burgess will help there.

Sholl will be a gun. Just needs another big preseason or two. He’s still only 21. He’ll start to reach peak fitness around 23..

Sholl has been on the list for 3 years? Including a full year of sanfl, plenty of fitness gained in that time.
He's not a kid out of under 18s..
Far to many excuses for him on here.. he is soft (VERY) and drops his bundle easily if he makes errors.

Has plenty of talent but needs to put it together next year.

 

[DJ75]

I know we have all given up any and all hope on trading with North to get pick 1 (and rightly so), but just for fun, what player would you be willing to package with pick 4 to trade to North for pick 1? Remember that North have to actually want the player and they would have to be of some promise and some quality.

It might be better to ask "who would you NOT trade". Either way, I'm interested in what we think the limit is.

 

[Bearded Clam]

I agree, but I’m hoping Rankine fills that void. We also have Rowe, McHenry , murphy possibly McAdam and newchurch who could play that role .

Im hoping Rankine comes across to us too.. but until he is confirmed..

Im hoping Newchurch makes it, really wishing he does.. but wouldnt be betting on it at this point.

Murphy is a no for me.. doesnt hit the scoreboard enough and just seems to out of position alot like he is a poor reader of the play.

Rowe is no certainty.. looks alright but is nowhere near it yet. it could go either way.

Mchenry doesnt strike me as the xfactor forward we need..

 

[Bearded Clam]

Sholl has been on the list for 3 years? Including a full year of sanfl, plenty of fitness gained in that time.
He's not a kid out of under 18s..
Far to many excuses for him on here.. he is soft (VERY) and drops his bundle easily if he makes errors.

Has plenty of talent but needs to put it together next year.

Yeah.. care to name the fitness “guru’s” that have been there in the past three years instructing these new players.. their first fitness coaches at AFL level..

 

[DaKids]

We have Sholl, who's very outside .....do we need another in NWM

Sometimes you have to overlook good players for the sake of getting the mix of your squad right ......case in point, trading Lyons

I'm certainly not saying NWM won't be a valuable player for the right club

Absolutely spot on and agree - I was only talking about him as a player in general

 

[Mutineer]

I know we have all given up any and all hope on trading with North to get pick 1 (and rightly so), but just for fun, what player would you be willing to package with pick 4 to trade to North for pick 1? Remember that North have to actually want the player and they would have to be of some promise and some quality.

It might be better to ask "who would you NOT trade". Either way, I'm interested in what we think the limit is.

Ben Davis, Matty Wright or Dan O'Connor.

 

[DJ75]

Ben Davis, Matty Wright or Dan O'Connor.

That's your list of WON'T trade I assume

 

[latinoheat]

Yikes! News have a write up on draftees. Ersmus now listed at 192cm

Age:	2/12/2003
Weight:	80kg
Height:	192cm
Club:	Subiaco/WA

Stats
2021 WAFL Colts (4 games)
164 ranking points, 28 disposals, 16 contested possessions, 7.8 marks.
2020 WAFL Colts (10 games)
76 ranking points, 10 disposals, 5.5 groundball-gets, 4.5 score involvements.

Playing as a forward in his bottom-age year, Erasmus put himself on the AFL radar with a standout four-goal performance in Subiaco’s WAFL Colts premiership win. And he’s shot further up draft boards after moving into the midfield in 2021. Erasmus averaged 28 disposals, eight marks, seven clearances and 168 ranking points in the opening three matches of the year to earn a late call-up to the AFL Academy squad. At 192cm, given he’s added genuine ball-winning ability – at the contest and away from it - to his vertical leap, strong overhead marking and work ethic, Erasmus is in line to be the first WA player drafted

 

[latinoheat]

Mutineer . Ned Long write up

Age:	5/2/2003
Weight:	88kg
Height:	192cm
Club:	Northern Knights/Vic Metro

Stats
2021 NAB League (3 games)
144 ranking points, 22 disposals, 3.7 clearances, 2.3 goals

An emergency for Vic Metro’s under-16 side in 2019, Long has emerged this year as a strong prospect given his ability to both win plenty of the ball and hit the scoreboard. A leg injury early in the year followed by ankle and foot problems in the middle part of the season meant Long only played three NAB League games. However, they were all outstanding. Long kicked three goals in two separate matches and managed one major in the other rotating between the midfield and forward line. At 192cm he is a good size, is one of the best runners at the Knights and is a strong overhead mark. Long’s tackling was also a feature of his game this year as he averaged 5.7 a game.

 

[Golumless]

Sholl has been on the list for 3 years? Including a full year of sanfl, plenty of fitness gained in that time.
He's not a kid out of under 18s..
Far to many excuses for him on here.. he is soft (VERY) and drops his bundle easily if he makes errors.

Has plenty of talent but needs to put it together next year.

However, not enough time to gain the fitness Sholl needs. We're not talking about a player who needs to be AFL fit, we're talking about someone who needs to be in the question of being the fittest AFL player in the league to hold up with the game style he plays (considering he's an Ed Langdon clone). That kind of fitness is going to take 4-5 years to reach, not 3. This is not a Darcy Fogarty type situation where you could still hold questions about is he actually capable of the bare minimum?

Sholl is in a good spot. He's shown he's got an elite outside ceiling, probably just needs 1-2 more preseasons to get there. The only question is can he add 4-5 kg to his frame without messing up that endurance, seeing that should help clean up some of the contested game. He'll survive (and likely thrive) without it, but it'd certainly add value.

 

[Mutineer]

Mutineer . Ned Long write up

Age:	5/2/2003
Weight:	88kg
Height:	192cm
Club:	Northern Knights/Vic Metro

Stats
2021 NAB League (3 games)
144 ranking points, 22 disposals, 3.7 clearances, 2.3 goals

An emergency for Vic Metro’s under-16 side in 2019, Long has emerged this year as a strong prospect given his ability to both win plenty of the ball and hit the scoreboard. A leg injury early in the year followed by ankle and foot problems in the middle part of the season meant Long only played three NAB League games. However, they were all outstanding. Long kicked three goals in two separate matches and managed one major in the other rotating between the midfield and forward line. At 192cm he is a good size, is one of the best runners at the Knights and is a strong overhead mark. Long’s tackling was also a feature of his game this year as he averaged 5.7 a game.

He's where my pick 23 would be going if he's got a clean bill of health, early in the season before his injuries he was the Knights best player, better at that time than teammate Josh Ward who gets talked up more.

Ideally I'd like to nab Josh Goater and Ned Long however our draft pans out. Both tick the size and versatility box.

 

[Mutineer]

Will State or club football get priority with players still involved in State Finals?
Likely going to be multiple players from both states too.

 

[Mutineer]

We need an xfactor small forward before we need another small/medium defender..

Tyrone Thorne made the WAFL Team Of The Year....

 

[Mutineer]

 

[WeeBlake]

Tyrone Thorne made the WAFL Team Of The Year....

Has he kept up his early season form?