List Mgmt. 2021 Draft picks: 4/33/75

[Deaneus!]

thanks to Lore as always

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[Sanders]

Yes. A trade is one option:

"An offer to a Restricted Free Agent may be matched by their Club. Should their original Club match the offer, and the Restricted Free Agent Player does not wish to remain with their original Club, they must enter the National Draft or seek a trade."

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“Richmond can just trade CCJ to another club” you said

maybe try again and see what you might have overlooked?

 

[Sanders]

I agree he can do the above, but it complicates whether he goes to NM rather than gets to NM, given he can if he choses get a matched offer from Richmond.

you were born with 2 ears and 1 mouth for a reason. Now listen to what people are telling you.

 

[Clayton Lamb]

you were born with 2 ears and 1 mouth for a reason. Now listen to what people are telling you.

I suggest you learn to read, and stop posting from a position of ignorance. A trade is one of the options I mentioned and I even bolded the relevant part of the free agency rules for you in a hope even someone of your cognitive limitations may be able to see it.

 

[Sanders]

I suggest you learn to read, and stop posting from a position of ignorance. A trade is one of the options I mentioned and I even bolded the relevant part of the free agency rules for you in a hope even someone of your cognitive limitations may be able to see it.

OK. So you just want someone to scold your stupidity.

get a dog if you’re lonely and need attention

 

[Clayton Lamb]

OK. So you just want someone to scold your stupidity.

get a dog if you’re lonely and need attention

^ Given your stuff up and troll behaviour I wasn't actually expecting an intelligent response from you. And you didn't disappoint.

“Richmond can just trade CCJ to another club” you said

Yes, read:

"Richmond coach Damien Hardwick believes outgoing Tiger Mabior Chol “probably needs a change” but says Callum Coleman-Jones’ recent trade request was “disappointing”.

Tigers coach explains duo’s impending exits… and role ‘exciting’ recruit could play

‘He needs a change’: Tigers explain duo’s shock exits… and role ‘exciting’ recruit will play

www.foxsports.com.au

If Richmond want, they "can just trade CCJ to another club”.

 

[Sanders]

^ Given your stuff up and troll behaviour I wasn't actually expecting an intelligent response from you. And you didn't disappoint.



Yes, read:

"Richmond coach Damien Hardwick believes outgoing Tiger Mabior Chol “probably needs a change” but says Callum Coleman-Jones’ recent trade request was “disappointing”.

Tigers coach explains duo’s impending exits… and role ‘exciting’ recruit could play

‘He needs a change’: Tigers explain duo’s shock exits… and role ‘exciting’ recruit will play

www.foxsports.com.au

If Richmond want, they "can just trade CCJ to another club”.

 

[otr2020]

^ Given your stuff up and troll behaviour I wasn't actually expecting an intelligent response from you. And you didn't disappoint.



Yes, read:

"Richmond coach Damien Hardwick believes outgoing Tiger Mabior Chol “probably needs a change” but says Callum Coleman-Jones’ recent trade request was “disappointing”.

Tigers coach explains duo’s impending exits… and role ‘exciting’ recruit could play

‘He needs a change’: Tigers explain duo’s shock exits… and role ‘exciting’ recruit will play

www.foxsports.com.au

If Richmond want, they "can just trade CCJ to another club”.

What people haven't properly explained to you, is that CCJ is not a free agent ..he is out of contract meaning Richmond can't match any offers ..
for him to get to his prefered destination he needs Richmond to trade him or he can go to the preseason draft where we have pick 1 ..those rules you outlined were for restricted free agents

 

[Mismatched]

What people haven't properly explained to you, is that CCJ is not a free agent ..he is out of contract meaning Richmond can't match any offers ..
for him to get to his prefered destination he needs Richmond to trade him or he can go to the preseason draft where we have pick 1 ..those rules you outlined were for restricted free agents

Correct. Also players have the right to veto any trade proposal, as do the club. A trade doesn’t get done without both parties agreeing. Richmond can’t simply trade CCJ elsewhere if he doesn’t agree.

Restricted FA or not, the is no right to match a contract in the PSD, completely separate drafting mechanism to FA.

 

[Sanders]

Correct. Also players have the right to veto any trade proposal, as do the club. A trade doesn’t get done without both parties agreeing. Richmond can’t simply trade CCJ elsewhere if he doesn’t agree.

Restricted FA or not, the is no right to match a contract in the PSD, completely separate drafting mechanism to FA.

he wasn’t looking to be corrected.

Obviously Clayton Lamb wanted the attention of being told off and how wrong he was

 

[dogs105]

there’s a difference between debuting and being ready

Jack Watts board

 

[Mego Red]

Apparently richmond keen on Hobbs

Not surprising, seems a guaranteed 200 game midfielder.

 

[Mego Red]

He aint just walking there.

If push comes to shove, Richmond can just trade CCJ to another club, and North Melbourne can again try to look for another 200 cm forward/ruck. Also as he is a restricted free agent, Richmond can simply match any offer North make in the PSD.

What are you talking about?

Richmond CAN'T just trade him, and he ISN'T a restricted free agent.

This is completely wrong.

 

[ftmch]

Big year for SA talls, Harry Lemmey, Will Verrall and Isaac Keeler all look to have 1st round potential, then there's SA's Kobe Ryan, Adam D'alioa, Jaiden Magor, Matteus Phillipou, Jacob Ryan, Tom Scully, Max Michallaney who I think are all 2022 too?

Max Michallaney any relation to Jim?

 

[WheresGroomgone]

Max Michallaney any relation to Jim?

yes son.

 

[DaKids]

yes son.

There’s another one about to push through as well. Playing in next weeks intra state U15 champs.

 

[ams4crows]

Adelaide needs to wait until the CCJ trade happens before doing the Dawson trade, because if North is committed to CCJ in the pre season draft and gold coast and Collingwood have tight salary caps Dawson will make it to Adelaide easily without having to use any draft capital

 

[Velvet George]

We need to draft Petracca

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Looking at the GF last night, it reinforced the importance of speed & power thru the midfield

Look at the most influential players from both sides ......Petracca / Oliver & Bont / Treloar ....pace & power to break away from packs, either using legspeed or strength

Players like Macrae who dinked the ball around & played his usual game, was good .....but he was not your game winner

So who are our players that potentially meet the game winning criteria ? ......IMO Schoenberg & Pedlar

Players who run & carry ...kick long ...and kick goals as mids ..they win games, finals games !

 

[hey shorty]

Looking at the GF last night, it reinforced the importance of speed & power thru the midfield

Look at the most influential players from both sides ......Petracca / Oliver & Bont / Treloar ....pace & power to break away from packs, either using legspeed or strength

Players like Macrae who dinked the ball around & played his usual game, was good .....but he was not your game winner

So who are our players that potentially meet the game winning criteria ? ......IMO Schoenberg & Pedlar

Players who run & carry ...kick long ...and kick goals as mids ..they win games, finals games !

Keays is that type, just doesn't have the finishing ability.

Those 2 you mentioned are certainly in that mould, might have to hit the FA market to find another and build a solid group of soldiers around them.

 

[Mismatched]

Looking at the GF last night, it reinforced the importance of speed & power thru the midfield

Look at the most influential players from both sides ......Petracca / Oliver & Bont / Treloar ....pace & power to break away from packs, either using legspeed or strength

Players like Macrae who dinked the ball around & played his usual game, was good .....but he was not your game winner

So who are our players that potentially meet the game winning criteria ? ......IMO Schoenberg & Pedlar

Players who run & carry ...kick long ...and kick goals as mids ..they win games, finals games !

Yeah agreed, was thinking very similar and it makes the development of Schoenberg and Pedlar quite important as both have this capacity.

But its also what we need to be looking at in the draft, Horne fits the bill but I just can’t see us getting pick 1 off the Roos without selling the farm and then some. Erasmus seems to fit the bill as well, powerful, strong overhead and a natural goal kicker.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Looking at the GF last night, it reinforced the importance of speed & power thru the midfield

Look at the most influential players from both sides ......Petracca / Oliver & Bont / Treloar ....pace & power to break away from packs, either using legspeed or strength

Players like Macrae who dinked the ball around & played his usual game, was good .....but he was not your game winner

So who are our players that potentially meet the game winning criteria ? ......IMO Schoenberg & Pedlar

Players who run & carry ...kick long ...and kick goals as mids ..they win games, finals games !

Pedlar really is key to our fortunes

If he can develop into that bull, game-breaking midfielder that can push forward (which he can IMO, given his base traits), we’ll be in a great spot. He’s no certainty to get there yet, though, and if he does, I feel like it’ll take him longer than we expect to get there (a la Petracca, 6 or so years)

Schoenberg looks like he’s on his way to ‘great mid’ territory. Pedlar is less certain, but if he can, they’ll make for a nice duo

 

[Murray2503]

Yeah agreed, was thinking very similar and it makes the development of Schoenberg and Pedlar quite important as both have this capacity.

But its also what we need to be looking at in the draft, Horne fits the bill but I just can’t see us getting pick 1 off the Roos without selling the farm and then some. Erasmus seems to fit the bill as well, powerful, strong overhead and a natural goal kicker.

Not sure why people keep mentioning Horne. We aren't getting him and North aren't trading out pick 1. Also if he ever comes back to Adelaide it will be to the pear. Time to move on from him. Callaghan and Erasmus look the most likely types for our needs. They may also end up better players than Horne.

 

[Murray2503]

What people haven't properly explained to you, is that CCJ is not a free agent ..he is out of contract meaning Richmond can't match any offers ..
for him to get to his prefered destination he needs Richmond to trade him or he can go to the preseason draft where we have pick 1 ..those rules you outlined were for restricted free agents

Yeah Richmond will take what you give them. I hope you screw them over btw. They have pillaged the league for years and now their players are finally woken up and aren't drinking the Richmond underpaid coolaid anymore.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Pedlar really is key to our fortunes

If he can develop into that bull, game-breaking midfielder that can push forward (which he can IMO, given his base traits), we’ll be in a great spot. He’s no certainty to get there yet, though, and if he does, I feel like it’ll take him longer than we expect to get there (a la Petracca, 6 or so years)

Schoenberg looks like he’s on his way to ‘great mid’ territory. Pedlar is less certain, but if he can, they’ll make for a nice duo

Problem is both Pedlar and Schoenberg are 182cm players ...and Oliver and Petracca 187cm and 186cm respectively ...that's a big weight/strength differential that was obvious last night

Don't think the Cripps big bodied mid works, as he lacks the legspeed .....Bont is a great example, where he can still break-away with his size

Oliver two years ago was 2:1 handball / kicks ....and was not damaging at all, despite getting the ball easily ....this year in particular, he's reversed the ratio and using speed and then kicking ....what a difference that's made to his game

Seems most of the junior mids handball too much or dink the ball 20-30 mtrs

 

[Cap]

Problem is both Pedlar and Schoenberg are 182cm players ...and Oliver and Petracca 187cm and 186cm respectively ...that's a big weight/strength differential that was obvious last night

Don't think the Cripps big bodied mid works, as he lacks the legspeed .....Bont is a great example, where he can still break-away with his size

Oliver two years ago was 2:1 handball / kicks ....and was not damaging at all, despite getting the ball easily ....this year in particular, he's reversed the ratio and using speed and then kicking ....what a difference that's made to his game

Seems most of the junior mids handball too much or dink the ball 20-30 mtrs

Jordan Dawson? I readily have no feel on how good he is. But is a big bodied midfielder if we plan on playing him in the midfield