List Mgmt. 2021 Draft picks: 4/33/75

[Deaneus!]

thanks to Lore as always

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[Jeffcrowe]

reed, I certainly wouldn't be unhappy with Hobbs will be a great player, just unfortunate we can't get that point of difference

I’m with you prefer a point of difference if it’s close

also want some of our mids to be dangerous forwards when they rest there

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Having Hobbs, Berry, Pedlar winning the hard ball would give us that mongrel we really need going ahead, you need your clearance beasts and Pedlar is certainly capable on the outside as well.

Pedlar Berry Keays with Shoenberg is enough of that type for me

give me a mid / forward to compliment that if we can get it hence I’ll favour Erasmus or even the versatility of Goater

 

[Mutineer]

Pedlar Berry Keays with Shoenberg is enough of that type for me

give me a mid / forward to compliment that if we can get it hence I’ll favour Erasmus or even the versatility of Goater

Pedlar is very very capable forward and has been all his junior career, also has burst speed similar or better than Schoenberg, we just haven't had the opportunity to see it just yet.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Pedlar is very very capable forward and has been all his junior career, also has burst speed similar or better than Schoenberg, we just haven't had the opportunity to see it just yet.

i want him in the middle

 

[StonesThrow]

FWIW I'd be taking Hobbs 2021 over Caddy 2010 any day, far more complete midfielder and better at the midfield stuff. And still not afraid of the scoreboard. He's one of the safest picks in the draft. Taylor Adams/Selwood style footballer, not flashy, not super fast but none tougher.

I think he'll be a good inside mid, but from what I've seen his kicking isn't great. I don't think we should be targeting inside mids with OK disposal.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Pedlar Berry Keays with Shoenberg is enough of that type for me

give me a mid / forward to compliment that if we can get it hence I’ll favour Erasmus or even the versatility of Goater

Yeah that seems like what we should be aiming for re: grunt midfield rotation by 2025-ish. Laird back at HBF a la Matthew Boyd by then

Adding in Erasmus or Goater to that lot would flesh out the balance of that lot nicely

 

[Jcpdragonx]

Any chance we go for Hollands? Think he'd go 3rd in this years draft.

I'd actually offer pick 4+future first for Hollands+future 2nd+future 4th.

189cm damaging, skillful midfielder who can go forward. Adelaide supporter as well. I don't think theres a player in the draft like this?

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Any chance we go for Hollands? Think he'd go 3rd in this years draft.

I'd actually offer pick 4+future first for Hollands+future 2nd+future 4th.

189cm damaging, skillful midfielder who can go forward. Adelaide supporter as well. I don't think theres a player in the draft like this?

Given his ACL. pick 4 for Hollands and a future second.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Any chance we go for Hollands? Think he'd go 3rd in this years draft.

I'd actually offer pick 4+future first for Hollands+future 2nd+future 4th.

189cm damaging, skillful midfielder who can go forward. Adelaide supporter as well. I don't think theres a player in the draft like this?

No one's offering 4 and future first. He's out of contract for next years great GC exodus, and I'd consider going our first pick then if Rankosius doesn't look likely and the docs are happy with his knee.

 

[Thunderstruck]

Pedlar Berry Keays with Shoenberg is enough of that type for me

give me a mid / forward to compliment that if we can get it hence I’ll favour Erasmus or even the versatility of Goater

Yea definitely not saying we should pigeonhole him for pick 4 and leave it at that. He'd be more than worthy of that slot but am also a very big fan of Erasmus and certainly like Goater. Draper another though he could be gettable lower down. We've should have no excuse to not get a good player with this pick.

 

[Thunderstruck]

Also, I still think Josh Sinn is one of the most damaging players in the draft. He's your best metres gained player this year, run 30 kick 50 type, he'd be a wonderful asset

 

[CroCrow]

Pedlar is very very capable forward and has been all his junior career, also has burst speed similar or better than Schoenberg, we just haven't had the opportunity to see it just yet.

Don't agree, having watched alot of him this year I actually don't think he's that quick. He's also very slight as have stood next to him in a restaurant and not strong through the hips or legs. He's like MHcHenry throws himself around and hits the pack at his maximum speed but in terms of chase down or get away speed not in the above average bracket

 

[huludicidal]

Any chance we go for Hollands? Think he'd go 3rd in this years draft.

I'd actually offer pick 4+future first for Hollands+future 2nd+future 4th.

189cm damaging, skillful midfielder who can go forward. Adelaide supporter as well. I don't think theres a player in the draft like this?

drafted at Pick 7 less than 12 months ago, spent the year rehabbing from an ACL, still on his initial 2 year contract, hasn’t debuted yet and they’re going to trade him? Not in a million years. See how he goes in 2022 and keep an eye on him, sure, but there are no talks happening right now between the Suns and anyone regarding Hollands, and nor should there be.

 

[StonesThrow]

Also, I still think Josh Sinn is one of the most damaging players in the draft. He's your best metres gained player this year, run 30 kick 50 type, he'd be a wonderful asset

Yeah I rate him pretty highly from the few games I've seen. I reckon he'll be an excellent pick up and has gone under the radar a bit simply because he's not a pure mid.

 

[dogs105]

Don't agree, having watched alot of him this year I actually don't think he's that quick. He's also very slight as have stood next to him in a restaurant and not strong through the hips or legs. He's like MHcHenry throws himself around and hits the pack at his maximum speed but in terms of chase down or get away speed not in the above average bracket

Mutineer was talking about Luke Pedlar

 

[70lethal]

Pedlar Berry Keays with Shoenberg is enough of that type for me

give me a mid / forward to compliment that if we can get it hence I’ll favour Erasmus or even the versatility of Goater

It will be interesting to see if Dockers or WCE are interested in moving up for Erasmus.

 

[Danger in Texas]

It will be interesting to see if Dockers or WCE are interested in moving up for Erasmus.

Unless we’re getting pretty good overs, I’d just keep Erasmus for ourselves

 

[70lethal]

Unless we’re getting pretty good overs, I’d just keep Erasmus for ourselves

If moving back to 6 and getting Goater instead and moving a 3rd or 4th into the 2nd round then I would be seriously looking at it.

 

[70lethal]

Any chance we go for Hollands? Think he'd go 3rd in this years draft.

I'd actually offer pick 4+future first for Hollands+future 2nd+future 4th.

189cm damaging, skillful midfielder who can go forward. Adelaide supporter as well. I don't think theres a player in the draft like this?

Closest player to Petracca imo.
Done an ACL early as well.
GC have to have massive on field success next year to have the smallest of hope of keeping King and Luko. If they do then their cap will get smashed.

If Hollands has a decent year then he would be the one I would target over Rankine. 2 x 1sts no way

 

[Golumless]

Don't agree, having watched alot of him this year I actually don't think he's that quick. He's also very slight as have stood next to him in a restaurant and not strong through the hips or legs. He's like MHcHenry throws himself around and hits the pack at his maximum speed but in terms of chase down or get away speed not in the above average bracket

I mean I can't complain too much if you think Pedlar is slight, seeing he's already got the strength to shrug AFL tacklers. That probably speaks to someone who could be capable of replicating Dangerfield/Cunnington strength around the ball.

Though I suspect you underrate his acceleration. It's not Jones quick, but he's certainly got some burst power/speed in that profile. Thinking back to that run against West Adelaide and some of his clearance work. Though Peds probably needs a clear run at it as he did get hampered with injuries throughout the year (inc a groin in the middle of the season). I'd have him as quicker than Schoenberg.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I mean I can't complain too much if you think Pedlar is slight, seeing he's already got the strength to shrug AFL tacklers. That probably speaks to someone who could be capable of replicating Dangerfield/Cunnington strength around the ball.

Though I suspect you underrate his acceleration. It's not Jones quick, but he's certainly got some burst power/speed in that profile. Thinking back to that run against West Adelaide and some of his clearance work. Though Peds probably needs a clear run at it as he did get hampered with injuries throughout the year (inc a groin in the middle of the season). I'd have him as quicker than Schoenberg.

Shoenberg quicker than Pedlar
Agree re Pedlar - needs a year without injuries as that’s prob the main concern with him and his development

 

[Danger in Texas]

Shoenberg quicker than Pedlar
Agree re Pedlar - needs a year without injuries as that’s prob the main concern with him and his development

For mine - get Pedlar cemented in the AFL side by 2023, get him playing full-time midfield by 2025

He’ll be a slow burn, but I’m certain he’ll be worth it

 

[Mutineer]

Don't agree, having watched alot of him this year I actually don't think he's that quick. He's also very slight as have stood next to him in a restaurant and not strong through the hips or legs. He's like MHcHenry throws himself around and hits the pack at his maximum speed but in terms of chase down or get away speed not in the above average bracket

LOL

Footballers can't all be like you a mix of Shaquille ONeal and Carl Lewis.

And I call bullshit to your claims that Pedlar is slight and lacks burst speed, in fact other than the 2 AFL games he played I doubt you've seen him play at all.

You go around sizing yourself up against Adelaide players it seems....I'm starting to think you have a complex because this is certainly not the first time you've made this type of claim.

I'll happily revisit this with you in future, in fact I'll bookmark it.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

4 of his 6 games for MELB were as an unused Medi-Sub ......it's a definite no for me

 

[Mutineer]

Shoenberg quicker than Pedlar
Agree re Pedlar - needs a year without injuries as that’s prob the main concern with him and his development

Not off the mark he's not and doubtful he's quicker over ground as well.

Clearly people haven't watched the lad's early 2020 Glenelg games or the streams of his Prince Alfred games and are basing it on his 2 AFL games.

Pedlar is plenty quick enough and he's certainly above average paced for a midfielder.