2021 Non-Crows AFL Discussion Part 1: we can have lots of fun!

[Crow_68]

Two all beef patties special sauce lettuce cheese pickles onions on a sesame seed bun

I can't remember what they used to give us for free if we said that within the time limit. Maybe it was one of their watery cokes. But we used to go their after cricket training twice a week cos there was a Maccas over the road.

I still remember that sh*t decades later so you can't fault their marketing.

Thought it was for a World Series Cricket poster?


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[mistylake]

Delete and burn please.

 

[GreyCrow]

Two all beef patties special sauce lettuce cheese pickles onions on a sesame seed bun

I can't remember what they used to give us for free if we said that within the time limit.

World Series Cricket Poster

 

[mistylake]

OMG I thought that was a joke, but they actually did it.
Far out could they get any more cringe?

Chants night cringe level.

 

[mistylake]

KFC is the most overrated junk food.

It has always tasted sh*t.

On the few occasions I've had it, I've taken notice of the famous spices bullshit...it is virtually tasteless. It tastes like the old fat it's cooked in. Disgusting stuff.

Nuggets - you have to be completely ******* daft to get stuck into rolled up chicken skin deep fried in swill.

I swear I spat out half a chicken beak on one occasion.

If you get a beak your supposed to hand it in for a $50 voucher.

 

[mistylake]

I think you mean McDowells

Nature, Forests & Water

McDonald's commitment to halting deforestation is part of our sustainable food production plan that includes supporting deforestation-free supply chains.

corporate.mcdonalds.com

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Hey greenies are talking here, don’t ruin their platform, with your facts.

 

[mattymac]

World Series Cricket Poster

Nah not in my lifetime haha. I reckon the bloke who said free soft serve was on the money.

I didn't realise that was the second time they pulled that ploy

 

[tinman]

Delete and burn please.

just another good reason not to eat that cr@p. Disgusting

 

[mattymac]

Free soft serve. My mate and I used to drive around going to every drive thru in Adelaide with no money and fill up on ice cream. Good times.

Fuel was obviously cheaper than ice cream haha good times indeed

 

[mistylake]

Fuel was obviously cheaper than ice cream haha good times indeed

A 2 meter length of garden hose will get you places.

 

[Golumless]

I think you mean McDowells

Nature, Forests & Water

McDonald's commitment to halting deforestation is part of our sustainable food production plan that includes supporting deforestation-free supply chains.

corporate.mcdonalds.com

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Nah, fast food over the journey has been pretty bad for the environment, and why pressure has existed to clean up their act, which McDonalds have at least given lip service to doing. Smart business really.

For instance, a quick Google scholar search can find research from the 80s that showed McDonalds (and other fast food sources) were a key contributor to the loss of the Amazon forest, due to Brazil having the largest beef industry in the world and overconsumption of said beef. Same deal with the ever expanding need for palm oil.

 

[Golumless]

Hey greenies are talking here, don’t ruin their platform, with your facts.

Imagine having the tool to access the research at your disposal and instead of taking a look at that, you decided to fire this off because of some lip service a company fired off saying "yeah mate we'll clean up our act, we promise".

Please don't ever lend anyone money, you'll end up bankrupt in no time.

 

[mistylake]

Imagine having the tool to access the research at your disposal and instead of taking a look at that, you decided to fire this off because of some lip service a company fired off saying "yeah mate we'll clean up our act, we promise".

Please don't ever lend anyone money, you'll end up bankrupt in no time.

As far as I know McDonald’s are franchise stores so generally locally owned and operated. Not a lot different to the family owned burger shop as far as money staying in the community. But well patronised because of the advertising spent. I don’t lend money to anyone. That’s definitely for fools.

 

[xchadders]

this is an uncanny campbell brown

Campbell Brown

Age

42

Ht

179cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

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14.1

4star

K

8.9

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.5

3star

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D

11.8

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

5.4

4star

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2.8

3star

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1.4

4star

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0.8

4star

look-a-like... just 10 years and a few kgs younger

https://www.news.com.au/national/vi...k/news-story/7c0b565ed69ff850cf961b3a37ed7b9a

 

[Geoffa32]

Nah, fast food over the journey has been pretty bad for the environment, and why pressure has existed to clean up their act, which McDonalds have at least given lip service to doing. Smart business really.

For instance, a quick Google scholar search can find research from the 80s that showed McDonalds (and other fast food sources) were a key contributor to the loss of the Amazon forest, due to Brazil having the largest beef industry in the world and overconsumption of said beef. Same deal with the ever expanding need for palm oil.

Element of sarcasm in my post...


But all large scale production is bad for the environment.

To create items on a large scale, you have to destroy some form of natural resource on a large scale.


Somewhere in the supply chain of resources for every product made an environment is destroyed.

It is fundamental, to create you must destroy/transform a resource.

Producers just offset this destruction, mainly for PR.






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[mistylake]

Nah, fast food over the journey has been pretty bad for the environment, and why pressure has existed to clean up their act, which McDonalds have at least given lip service to doing. Smart business really.

For instance, a quick Google scholar search can find research from the 80s that showed McDonalds (and other fast food sources) were a key contributor to the loss of the Amazon forest, due to Brazil having the largest beef industry in the world and overconsumption of said beef. Same deal with the ever expanding need for palm oil.

It’s probably possible that things have change a bit over 30-40 years. The ever expanding human population is more of an issue though.
Also us western countries have a strange way of dictating terms to developing countries that way. I believe South Australia had the highest level of cleared land in Australia. Only a small percentage left of native vegetation remains.
We just did it years ago. Thing might have changed since I read that though.
These poor developing countries have people that need to eat and planting crops is a way they do it. Like Australia did back in the 1800’s when we cleared most of the arable land for cropping.

 

[Vader]

It’s probably possible that things have change a bit over 30-40 years. The ever expanding human population is more of an issue though.
Also us western countries have a strange way of dictating terms to developing countries that way. I believe South Australia had the highest level of cleared land in Australia. Only a small percentage left of native vegetation remains.
We just did it years ago. Thing might have changed since I read that though.
These poor developing countries have people that need to eat and planting crops is a way they do it. Like Australia did back in the 1800’s when we cleared most of the arable land for cropping.

While population is definitely an issue, consumption is the bigger issue. People in the West consume many times more resources than people in 3rd world and developing countries. From memory (and I could be wrong on these figures), roughly 5-10% of the world's population uses 80% of the world's resources. Populations in many western countries are now contracting, yet their resource usage continues to increase.

As for your comments about SA's cleared land... What you say may well be true for land in the southern 1/3 of the state - basically everything south of the Goyder Line. However, the largest area of the state, in the far north, remains largely uncleared. Most of this is either sheep/cattle stations, aboriginal land, or national parks. A very high percentage of lands in this area is still covered in native vegetation.

 

[Crow till I die]

Anyone got a pic of the new KFC printed Tarps the power will be using?

 

[GROTTO]

Anyone got a pic of the new KFC printed Tarps the power will be using?

.....and if they do replace the football with a bucket of KFC

Better would be replacing the Eagles no.20 with Gov.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Anyone got a pic of the new KFC printed Tarps the power will be using?

I'm looking forward to all the Teal bucket heads.... should improve their look out of sight.

 

[cm_perfect]

While population is definitely an issue, consumption is the bigger issue. People in the West consume many times more resources than people in 3rd world and developing countries. From memory (and I could be wrong on these figures), roughly 5-10% of the world's population uses 80% of the world's resources. Populations in many western countries are now contracting, yet their resource usage continues to increase.

As for your comments about SA's cleared land... What you say may well be true for land in the southern 1/3 of the state - basically everything south of the Goyder Line. However, the largest area of the state, in the far north, remains largely uncleared. Most of this is either sheep/cattle stations, aboriginal land, or national parks. A very high percentage of lands in this area is still covered in native vegetation.

Sounds like my job, 90% of the problems come from 10% of the people!! But alas, you can’t fix stupid [emoji41]

 

[mistylake]

While population is definitely an issue, consumption is the bigger issue. People in the West consume many times more resources than people in 3rd world and developing countries. From memory (and I could be wrong on these figures), roughly 5-10% of the world's population uses 80% of the world's resources. Populations in many western countries are now contracting, yet their resource usage continues to increase.

As for your comments about SA's cleared land... What you say may well be true for land in the southern 1/3 of the state - basically everything south of the Goyder Line. However, the largest area of the state, in the far north, remains largely uncleared. Most of this is either sheep/cattle stations, aboriginal land, or national parks. A very high percentage of lands in this area is still covered in native vegetation.

Yeah it was a long time ago that I read it and I’m not sure what it referred too. Just that SA was the most clearfelled of all states. It may have been arable land bellow that Goyder line or remnant forest. I seem to remember only 5% remaining. It did stick in my head as unexpected.
I dislike the way city yuppies bag poor people in developing nations for doing exactly what allowed them to be city yuppies. They generally have little other options “that they know of” to feed their families.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Sounds like my job, 90% of the problems come from 10% of the people!! But alas, you can’t fix stupid [emoji41]

Think this applies to most work environments... & particularly destructive when they are in a leadership role.

Just look at the Crows with Birdbrain.

 

[Vader]

Yeah it was a long time ago that I read it and I’m not sure what it referred too. Just that SA was the most clearfelled of all states. It may have been arable land bellow that Goyder line or remnant forest. I seem to remember only 5% remaining. It did stick in my head as unexpected.
I dislike the way city yuppies bag poor people in developing nations for doing exactly what allowed them to be city yuppies. They generally have little other options “that they know of” to feed their families.

It's very believable for the areas south of the Goyder Line, which have almost entirely been cleared for farming or other uses.

The Goyder Line was created by a surveyor named Goyder (oddly enough), and denoted which areas of the state received enough reliable rainfall to be suitable for agricultural purposes (i.e. growing grain). Areas north of the line are too arid to support this level of intensive farming.

The line was drawn in 1865, and has proven to be remarkably accurate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goyder's_Line

If you look at the map on the Wikipedia page, the only areas north of the line which are used for intensive agricultural purposes these days are those in the riverland, which are largely reliant upon irrigation.

 

[Golumless]

As far as I know McDonald’s are franchise stores so generally locally owned and operated. Not a lot different to the family owned burger shop as far as money staying in the community. But well patronised because of the advertising spent. I don’t lend money to anyone. That’s definitely for fools.

The money staying in the community is always a positive and definitely has proven to be one of the more innovative business models in the long run. Pushing in this direction is really th

Still, the moment you start to delve into supply chains and how they source their materials, then you begin to get into environmental damage, after all the moment land clearance is needed for pastoral lands to be able to support McDonalds, you've done damage to biodiversity in the region. McDonalds won't die in the short term (or probably long term, I'd be very surprised if I outlasted McDonalds and hopefully I have another 70+ years left on this rock), so the game really is damage mitigation. That promise is the first step, but I do have skepticism. It's much easier to say you'll do something then actually do it, especially for what would undoubtedly be a problem which would inevitably attack at the core of Maccas business model.

Element of sarcasm in my post...


But all large scale production is bad for the environment.

To create items on a large scale, you have to destroy some form of natural resource on a large scale.


Somewhere in the supply chain of resources for every product made an environment is destroyed.

It is fundamental, to create you must destroy/transform a resource.

Producers just offset this destruction, mainly for PR.






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Emojis exist for sarcasm, text is certainly not a great conveyor of it.

Its certainly one of the bigger challenges in the next century though, how to create a large amount of resources whilst mitigating damage to an already ailing environment, seeing we are living in the 6th mass extinction event the world has seen.

It's definitely all PR at this point, but surely that's a solvable problem by just being more efficient. I'm definitely excited for the development of cultured meat, in particular (seeing it should end up being more efficient), though of course there will be inevitable drawbacks to such a method.

It’s probably possible that things have change a bit over 30-40 years. The ever expanding human population is more of an issue though.
Also us western countries have a strange way of dictating terms to developing countries that way. I believe South Australia had the highest level of cleared land in Australia. Only a small percentage left of native vegetation remains.
We just did it years ago. Thing might have changed since I read that though.
These poor developing countries have people that need to eat and planting crops is a way they do it. Like Australia did back in the 1800’s when we cleared most of the arable land for cropping.

Unfortunately, we need to dictate and add China, South Korea and Japan to the list of countries which needs to (as much as there is a potential cold war brewing in the mid-term), seeing let's not sleep on the powerhouses of Asia either. After all, that's where the large majority of the experts are, especially as the challenge is to get them up to the same level of affluence without repeating our method. That's likely to push us past the climate tipping point, though as a challenge its probably in the difficult but doable category. With ample funding of course. It's also worth mentioning a place like Australia/Northern America was developed at the behest of western Europe as well (at least initially, but definitely lent on expertise from the West) so what we're seeing is not unique to SE Asia/Africa/South America being at the direction of elsewhere.

I'm pretty sure SA is still up there in percentage of land cleared. Large amount of pastoral land north, the iron triangle and us having a wheat belt would all contribute to that.

Yeah Africa is the real spectre that looms over this world, population wise (to the point that I do remember reading a few months back that Lagos in particular was expected to have one of the largest populations in the world by 2050). Struggling with infrastructure now in a lot of areas and likely to quadruple in population size to 4 billion by 2100. It's going to take some serious foresight and innovation to get us through that. The good news here though is it is becoming more and more possible to grow large quantities of food without requiring as much space as was needed as when we were pushing from small colonies to large cities. Cultured meat, NASA had projects looking to grow vegetables in space a couple of years back (and if you can grow vegetables there, you can grow them anywhere, which certainly opens up opportunities of using our urban jungle in a more efficient way, food wise), hardier crops being developed are all not too far away (to being doable now) from being able to handle large scale (and of course has a flow on to the post-industrial societies as well).