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Banter 2021 Off-Topic Chat Thread - PART II

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Also I have never once said I commented to prosecute or to assert or prove anything. It is you who made the criticisms and assertions. I just want proof and you have provided none. Perhaps you are different to me but I take things at face value unless proven otherwise. It's open for you to prove your points but you don't or can't I am not sure which.
But I have. I couldn't be bothered finding evidence. But I did anyway.
I found 14 charts that proved the same thing.
I found evidence from only 5 days ago. What do want? 2 hours ago?
Then it's Oh where's the context?
What????
Don't ask for things if you don't want to be proven wrong.
If you keep wanting things go out of your way and bring something to the table.
 
Results. Now. Right now. What do you have? Of course it matters.
I've given you my reasons why I see things are different now compared to the past.
It's what you asked for man.
I asked you for something/ anything.
And it's well in the past....
Ok. So where is the momentum? On past results where do you see this movement heading? And how?

If your only assertion was that the movement lacked momentum I probably would have agreed and I have no doubt it can be done better. However you went much further with your assertions none of which have you supported with evidence. In fact outside of inequality you haven't made any definitive points at all. Yet you have raised opinion after opinion after opinion about so many societal issues surrounding BLM and other things. Just back them up and then your points will have substance. However if in fact your only real point is BLM lacks momentum as a cause I might agree, although the issue surrounding sporting organisations and kneeling seems to be ridiculously well covered at the moment so the movement is making some inroads
 

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But I have. I couldn't be bothered finding evidence. But I did anyway.
I found 14 charts that proved the same thing.
I found evidence from only 5 days ago. What do want? 2 hours ago?
Then it's Oh where's the context?
What????
Don't ask for things if you don't want to be proven wrong.

Hahaha this is brilliant what did those charts prove in your mind exactly? They showed a minor incline in inequality and from that you extrapolated out so many things that were just opinions:

1. You talked about the reasons it has increased (no evidence for that in your charts just your opinion.
2. You talked about BLM being a fraud and only doing it for cynical purposes (no evidence for that in your charts)
3. You talked about how this is a unique time in history that shouldn't take into account what has happened in the past. (no evidence for that in your charts)

ect ect ect do you understand the difference and the points I am making?
 
Hahaha this is brilliant what did those charts prove in your mind exactly? They showed a minor incline in inequality and from that you extrapolated out so many things that were just opinions:

1. You talked about the reasons it has increased (no evidence for that in your charts just your opinion.
2. You talked about BLM being a fraud and only doing it for cynical purposes (no evidence for that in your charts)
3. You talked about how this is a unique time in history that shouldn't take into account what has happened in the past. (no evidence for that in your charts)

ect ect ect do you understand the difference and the points I am making?
1. You said inequality has not increased.
Something like hahahahah it has not. You can't prove that.
Yes it has. Yes I did.
2. I never said that. I was asking how lives have become better for black people.
You seem to believe inequality is narrowing.
I would bloody love to see why you think that?
3. That is my opinion. Why I said in capital letters IN MY OPINION.
 
Better than law and order SVU..?

Never watched it. I don't get excited about music artists getting into acting. Although I admit I liked the _Friday_ and _Barbershop_ movies (Ice Cube) and Henry Rollins was pretty good in _Sons Of Anarchy_.
 
1. You said inequality has not increased.
Something like hahahahah it has not. You can't prove that.
Yes it has. Yes I did.
2. I never said that. I was asking how lives have become better for black people.
You seem to believe inequality is narrowing.
I would bloody love to see why you think that?
3. That is my opinion. Why I said in capital letters IN MY OPINION.

I would like to know where I definitively said it hasn't increased? Also I can't be bothered anymore as I am sure you can't. I feel you asserted a lot of things that you didn't back up with facts. You don't so let's agree to disagree
 
Got em into Sepultura. Good Seps not that Roots sh*t.

You guys into Fu Manchu at all? Great groove/stoner metal band.

Yes, I'm showing my age.
 
If your only assertion was that the movement lacked momentum I probably would have agreed and I have no doubt it can be done better. However you went much further with your assertions none of which have you supported with evidence. In fact outside of inequality you haven't made any definitive points at all. Yet you have raised opinion after opinion after opinion about so many societal issues surrounding BLM and other things. Just back them up and then your points will have substance. However if in fact your only real point is BLM lacks momentum as a cause I might agree, although the issue surrounding sporting organisations and kneeling seems to be ridiculously well covered at the moment so the movement is making some inroads
What inroads. I don't even need any facts.
Just an opinion will do?
Why do you think it lacks momentum?
Just an opinion?
You wouldn't think it is because any of the points I raised would it per chance?
Such as a 2 party system?
A system set up to create more inequality rather than reduce it?
Don't think that anything to do with it? Anything at all?
 
I would like to know where I definitively said it hasn't increased? Also I can't be bothered anymore as I am sure you can't. I feel you asserted a lot of things that you didn't back up with facts. You don't so let's agree to disagree
Nah I can't TBH. But anyway good discussion.
 

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Yeah I just got too into it as I always do before wondering why I have gotten so into a meaningless discussion on the internet that all of a sudden seems to matter hahahahaha hopefully I will learn one day.
Don't worry. I do that nearly everyday at the moment.
 
F**k no. Too commercial.
Got em into Sepultura. Good Seps not that Roots sh*t.
Had tickets to see Metallica with one of them before they cancelled. But for the best.
Whenever we were watching shows from the Justice and Black era I kept saying Don't expect this or you'll be disappointed. They're nothing like this now.

I watched a club show from I think 2019 in chicago, of harvester of sorrow. And james basically sings it. God it sounded shit. He used to grunt/growl out the lyrics. Now he literally tries to sing it. It's embarrassing. They posted a full concert video from I think 1991, I think from San Francisco, on their youtube channel, and it was bad ass. They used to be so farking great. They are now just a shadow of what they used to be. I don't think I could pay good money to go see them butcher their classics now. I just couldn't bring myself to do it, especially knowing that some of my money would be going in lars pocket :tearsofjoy:

Then prove your "fact" I haven't asserted anything other than unless you substantiate your comments with evidence they are laughable. Independent corroborated evidence of your assertion about BLM and then I will be in total agreement with you and stand corrected.

Ok here's one example. BLM rioted like crazy in minnesota. The local democrat government pushed to defund the police. Cut their budget and villainized them. Police left in droves. They can't get new officers now cause who wants to be a cop. They are too scared to do their job because one mistake, and they are either charged or fired. I have heard from one officer who works there that they basically won't touch black people now. It's not worth the risk. So what do you know, the crime rate goes through the roof. So all those black people living in the ghettos have even more crime to deal with. Well done BLM, this is how you are improving black peoples lives. Well the black criminals are loving it, so I guess some black people are making gains.

Then we have the person who pushed the hardest to defund the police complaining they aren't doing their jobs hahahaha. You can't make this shit up. They cut their funding, made police feel worthless, made in impossible for them to do their job properly, and yet they have the nerve to say it's the police officers fault. These people get what they deserve.

Now let's see you post up some facts of how BLM has made life better for black people. I'll wait here for some shred of evidence.





You guys into Fu Manchu at all? Great groove/stoner metal band.

Yes, I'm showing my age.

I used to listen to it a bit. In search of is a great album. But I more listen to Kyuss. And the new band Stoner with brant bjork and nick oliveri from Kyuss.
 

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