Banter 2021 Off-Topic Chat Thread - PART II

[Kram]

Too busy writing hashtags on snapchat and listening to Ed Sheeran.

Wont be your kids growing up to Slipknot lmao.

 

[rocker_oz33]

Wont be your kids growing up to Slipknot lmao.

I bet they already got Muppets lol...

# Slipknot.

 

[Spazz Cat]

Wont be your kids growing up to Slipknot lmao.

F**k no. Too commercial.
Got em into Sepultura. Good Seps not that Roots shit.
Had tickets to see Metallica with one of them before they cancelled. But for the best.
Whenever we were watching shows from the Justice and Black era I kept saying Don't expect this or you'll be disappointed. They're nothing like this now.

 

[rocker_oz33]

I bet they got black finger nails...

 

[Kram]

F**k no. Too commercial.
Got em into Sepultura. Good Seps not that Roots sh*t.
Had tickets to see Metallica with one of them before they cancelled. But for the best.
Whenever we were watching shows from the Justice and Black era I kept saying Don't expect this or you'll be disappointed. They're nothing like this now.

Metallica's last decent album came out when I was like 10 haha. And even that was the turning point where they went commercial.

 

[rocker_oz33]

Shit ending to Wentworth.

Too many lose endings...IMO

 

[Spazz Cat]

Metallica's last decent album came out when I was like 10 haha. And even that was the turning point where they went commercial.

Yeah same. Black album? I don't even really like that much. Nothing against it. Just not for me.

 

[Spazz Cat]

sh*t ending to Wentworth.

Too many lose endings...IMO

I believe the show is a prequel to a famous 80's show Prisoner.
You could maybe watch that and tie up the loose ends.

 

[rocker_oz33]

I believe the show is a prequel to a famous 80's show Prisoner.
You could maybe watch that and tie up the loose ends.

I thought it was just a re make ...

 

[cats_09]

I thought it was just a re make ...

Remake/reimagining/inspired by type thing

 

[Spazz Cat]

I thought it was just a re make ...

Oh fair enough. I always thought it was vinegar **** rise to power before the old show.

 

[rocker_oz33]

Remake/reimagining/inspired by type thing

It was just get going .
Now it's gone .

Few powder puff seasons ...of noithing .

I guess I want to see someone get shived/shanked every second week..lol

 

[rocker_oz33]

Oh fair enough. I always thought it was vinegar **** rise to power before the old show.

She died early on.

She done Fook all.
Didn't even put the big iron one someone's head lol.

 

[rocker_oz33]

I guess I was spoiled with OZ..
That show was Butal.as fook.

 

[Spazz Cat]

She died early on.

She done Fook all.
Didn't even put the big iron one someone's head lol.

Ahh shit. I watched it up to the point where Bee died.
Was actually awesome but just didn't keep going for some reason.

 

[Spazz Cat]

I guess I was spoiled with OZ..
That show was Butal.as fook.

Was. Full on.

 

[rocker_oz33]

Ahh sh*t. I watched it up to the point where Bee died.
Was actually awesome but just didn't keep going for some reason.

I thought Bee was a bit soft.
I wanted shives and shanks ...and blood .lol.

 

[foodles05]

I believe the movement was used by politicians to help get themselves elected that don't particularly care about the movement at all.
Bar providing lip-service and very much superficial things to attract votes.
You seem to be impressed by this lip service, but that is all it is I am afraid.
All the while wealth inequality has grown at the fastest rate in history.
Anti-fata I also believe are no help to anyone and are actually Pro-fascist.
They are mostly white boys from well to do families who use it as currency while in college to get laid.
Once they leave college and get a nice job they will be supporting the same system that keeps black and poor people down.
I also believe for a human rights movement to occur, it will have to be all races.
The system is set-up to create division and turn white against black, rich against poor precisely so this can't happen.

Well this has become stupidly circular because nothing you claim in this passage is backed by any evidence you have provided.

1. Where is you evidence that the movement is a fraud used by politicians ect ect ect
2. Where is your proof that it is lip service?
3. Where is your proof about the makeup of Antifa (totally agree that are Pro-facist and don't like them) but have not seen any evidence to back up your claims about what sort of people mostly constitute it?
4. You are aware that innumerable successful human rights movements have been driven on the issue of a single race or defined groups and have been incredibly successful aren't you? Is it different in your world now and if so why?

If your answer to all this is that inequality continues to grow then it is no answer at all. There are so so so so so many factors that contribute to inequality that to suggest inequality growing means BLM is useless and will never work is an insane leap of logic to make.

 

[foodles05]

He got that 100% right in that song.


Ok then. Show some facts that blm has improved peoples lives.

And not the leaders of blm who now own a heap of real estate from the money they siphoned off from blm funding. You can google that too. It’s a fact.

Then prove your "fact" I haven't asserted anything other than unless you substantiate your comments with evidence they are laughable. Independent corroborated evidence of your assertion about BLM and then I will be in total agreement with you and stand corrected.

 

[Spazz Cat]

Well this has become stupidly circular because nothing you claim in this passage is backed by any evidence you have provided.

1. Where is you evidence that the movement is a fraud used by politicians ect ect ect
2. Where is your proof that it is lip service?
3. Where is your proof about the makeup of Antifa (totally agree that are Pro-facist and don't like them) but have not seen any evidence to back up your claims about what sort of people mostly constitute it?
4. You are aware that innumerable successful human rights movements have been driven on the issue of a single race or defined groups and have been incredibly successful aren't you? Is it different in your world now and if so why?

If your answer to all this is that inequality continues to grow then it is no answer at all. There are so so so so so many factors that contribute to inequality that to suggest inequality growing means BLM is useless and will never work is an insane leap of logic to make.

Results are the evidence. That is whole point yeah? Results.
Where is your proof that things have got better? Why can't you provide it?
Remember you are the prosecuting lawyer here, you came here to prosecute.
It is also up to you to make a case. Evidence?
Yes I do believe the world is different now. They’ve won. Identity politics has never been so strong. And it is coming here too.
The left wing is now more fascist than the right wing.
And it's the way the power's that be on both sides want it.
Divide everyone, everyone fights over bullshit, while they run off with all the money and increase their power.
It is IN MY OPINION that nothing will be solved for REAL unless we can put aside our differences and come together.
Feel free to provide any evidence to the contrary.
I would like to hear how it isn't true.

 

[foodles05]

Results are the evidence. That is whole point yeah? Results.
Where is your proof that things have got better? Why can't you provide it?
Remember you are the prosecuting lawyer here, you came here to prosecute.
It is also up to you to make a case. Evidence?
Yes I do believe the world is different now. They’ve won. Identity politics has never been so strong. And it is coming here too.
The left wing is now more fascist than the right wing.
And it's the way the power's that be on both sides want it.
Divide everyone, everyone fights over bullshit, while they run off with all the money and increase their power.
It is IN MY OPINION that nothing will be solved for REAL unless we can put aside our differences and come together.
Feel free to provide any evidence to the contrary.
I would like to hear how it isn't true.

History is my evidence hahahaha there is so so so so so so so many examples of civil rights movements aimed at one class of people that have prevailed for time immemorial.

I can provide numerous examples if you want me to.

What do you mean results? At what point in time? Do you now determine how long a movement has to prove their worth to you. Do you honestly think that change takes 2 or 3 years. Do you read history? Are you across it? It will really help to not have so much certainty about your own time and environment. The arrogance of the now is hilarious.

 

[foodles05]

Results are the evidence. That is whole point yeah? Results.
Where is your proof that things have got better? Why can't you provide it?
Remember you are the prosecuting lawyer here, you came here to prosecute.
It is also up to you to make a case. Evidence?
Yes I do believe the world is different now. They’ve won. Identity politics has never been so strong. And it is coming here too.
The left wing is now more fascist than the right wing.
And it's the way the power's that be on both sides want it.
Divide everyone, everyone fights over bullshit, while they run off with all the money and increase their power.
It is IN MY OPINION that nothing will be solved for REAL unless we can put aside our differences and come together.
Feel free to provide any evidence to the contrary.
I would like to hear how it isn't true.

Also I have never once said I commented to prosecute or to assert or prove anything. It is you who made the criticisms and assertions. I just want proof and you have provided none. Perhaps you are different to me but I take things at face value unless proven otherwise. It's open for you to prove your points but you don't or can't I am not sure which.

 

[Braklet]

As Bodycount and Ice-T used to sing,
Poor lives don't matter.

I loved Body Count, I thought it was the greatest thing Ice-T did. Got to see them once.

 

[Spazz Cat]

History is my evidence hahahaha there is so so so so so so so many examples of civil rights movements aimed at one class of people that have prevailed for time immemorial.

I can provide numerous examples if you want me to.

What do you mean results? At what point in time? Do you now determine how long a movement has to prove their worth to you. Do you honestly think that change takes 2 or 3 years. Do you read history? Are you across it? It will really help to not have so much certainty about your own time and environment. The arrogance of the now is hilarious.

Results. Now. Right now. What do you have? Of course it matters.
I've given you my reasons why I see things are different now compared to the past.
It's what you asked for man.
I asked you for something/ anything.
And it's well in the past....
Ok. So where is the momentum? On past results where do you see this movement heading? And how?

 

[rocker_oz33]

I loved Body Count, I thought it was the greatest thing Ice-T did. Got to see them once.

Better than law and order SVU..?