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List Mgmt. 2021 Trade & List Management Thread II - IN: CCJ

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North Melbourne
Out of contract (4): Shaun Atley, Tom Campbell, Trent Dumont, Charlie Ham

Robbie Tarrant will depart the Kangaroos to accept a two-year deal with Richmond – and fellow unrestricted free agent Dumont is also set to play elsewhere in 2022. North has put contract negotiations on hold for Dumont, Atley, Campbell and mid-season addition Ham. Tiger tall Callum Coleman-Jones wants to join the Roos on a long-term deal, so Tarrant may end up being part of that trade instead of signing at Punt Rd as a free agent.
 
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North Melbourne
Out of contract (4): Shaun Atley, Tom Campbell, Trent Dumont, Charlie Ham

Robbie Tarrant will depart the Kangaroos to accept a two-year deal with Richmond – and fellow unrestricted free agent Dumont is also set to play elsewhere in 2022. North has put contract negotiations on hold for Dumont, Atley, Campbell and mid-season addition Ham. Tiger tall Callum Coleman-Jones wants to join the Roos on a long-term deal, so Tarrant may end up being part of that trade instead of signing at Punt Rd as a free agent.
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I was actually after every other club.
Checking if its worth trading CCJ and grabbing someone else with PSD1.
thanks though.
 

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GWS is eyeing off a Demons academy player — and the Giants could pull a trade and draft surprise with the No.2 pick they secured from Collingwood.

Jon Ralph, Jay Clark and Glenn McFarlane

16 min read
September 30, 2021 - 3:00PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom



Greater Western Sydney is seriously considering using its first selection on Melbourne’s Sudanese next generation academy player Mac Andrew in what is shaping as the Demons’ gift to the competition.

But the Giants could end up trading their No.2 overall pick to a rival to shuffle several spots back down the order if it’s confident it could still secure Andrew, with Richmond and Geelong chasing an early draft pick.

The Demons remain furious they cannot pick 200cm ruck-forward Andrew despite a massive investment in a player rivals concede has been fast-tracked because of Melbourne’s support.

As an athletic tall who is still several years from emerging as a regular senior player, clubs believe he has the same repeat efforts and sparkling gifts Melbourne ruckman Luke Jackson has brought to the competition.

The Dandenong Stingrays ruckman was born in Egypt to South Sudanese parents and, before this year, was not part of the Vic Country teams.

As part of new rule tweaks, clubs cannot match bids for NGA players if rivals bid on them within the first 20 selections of the draft, with that rule to be expanded to the first 40 selections next year.

Jamarra Ugle-Hagan, who was an NGA product last year, was always going to be a star of the competition, despite the Dogs’ support, but rivals say the Demons’ work on Andrew since he was 14 has made him the player he will become.


GWS traded for Collingwood’s first-round pick last year and, at best, thought the selection could end up around No.10.

Instead, as the Pies won just two of their last nine games, the Giants pulled off one of the great trade heists to secure the No.2 overall pick, which will shuffle to pick four after a pair of father-sons are taken off the board.

Rivals believe Andrew could go between picks 5-10 so, if rivals like Richmond are determined to secure that GWS pick, the Giants would be open to offers.
He is unlikely to be on the draft board when the Giants use their next selection at No.13.
Geelong is another club keen to secure an early selection by trading a package of its selections for a top-10 pick.
For a GWS side with three rucks in Braydon Preuss, Kieren Briggs and Matt Flynn, the decision to draft Andrew would come knowing there was no rush for him to make an instant impact.

Andrew’s manager is the brother of Norm Smith medallist Christian Petracca. Picture: AFL Photos

Andrew is managed by Hemisphere’s Julian Petracca, brother of the Melbourne Norm Smith Medallist Christian.

Julian Petracca has also had an excellent season in helping secure four of the likely top 10 picks in the upcoming draft under the Hemisphere Management Group banner in Andrew, Northern Knights midfielder Josh Ward, Vic Country key defender Josh Gibcus and Sandringham Dragons midfielder Josh Callaghan.

AFL talent manager Kevin Sheehan said the sky was the limit for Andrew.

“He emerged from nowhere and, within a couple of weeks, we put him into the Australian Under 18 team and he played against Geelong’s VFL side over the Anzac Day weekend,” he said.

“And he did well in that game, some of his athletic movement for a kid of 200cm who is quick, can mark it … People just said, ‘Wow, how big is the upside of this guy?’.

“He played quite well in the Vic Metro v Vic Country game in July, he did some exceptional things in the air.

“He is a very balanced young fellow, communicates well in the team, loves the game.

“He is certainly in love with footy and he’s very advanced, so it’s a conundrum for Melbourne.”
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I’m genuinely concerned for the future of our country that that article was labeled a “16 minute read”. Reckon it took about 1.5.
 
where are we getting a late 20’s pick from?

From Herald Sun
Richmond would normally have secured Robbie Tarrant on a two-year free agency deal on Friday but will instead trade for him with a late pick next week.

As reported by the Herald Sun, Mabior Chol’s four-year deal is likely to trigger a third-round compensation pick (pick 45).

But if the Tigers bring in Tarrant as a free agent the net value of both free agency transactions is taken into account by the AFL, so the Tigers could have the Chol compensation cancelled out.

Richmond and the Roos are happy to get a deal done for Callum Coleman Jones early in trade week that will also factor in trading for Tarrant instead of moving him as a free agent.

Richmond would ideally have hoped for North Melbourne’s No.20 pick instead of their No.38 third selection but the clubs might be able to broker a deal that gives the Tigers a pick somewhere in between those selections.

Pick 20 is worth 912 draft points while the combined value of picks 45 (Chol compensation) and 38 are worth 812 points.

So it makes sense for the Tigers to preserve their Chol compensation then attempt to secure a late 20s pick from North Melbourne instead of risk losing the free agency compensation altogether.
 
Mr_Nyah said:
I’m genuinely concerned for the future of our country that that article was labeled a “16 minute read”. Reckon it took about 1.5.
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Nah, it’s all about how long it took the author to read it
16 mins for the three of them is speed reading
 
Harris 10 said:
where are we getting a late 20’s pick from?

From Herald Sun
Richmond would normally have secured Robbie Tarrant on a two-year free agency deal on Friday but will instead trade for him with a late pick next week.

As reported by the Herald Sun, Mabior Chol’s four-year deal is likely to trigger a third-round compensation pick (pick 45).

But if the Tigers bring in Tarrant as a free agent the net value of both free agency transactions is taken into account by the AFL, so the Tigers could have the Chol compensation cancelled out.

Richmond and the Roos are happy to get a deal done for Callum Coleman Jones early in trade week that will also factor in trading for Tarrant instead of moving him as a free agent.

Richmond would ideally have hoped for North Melbourne’s No.20 pick instead of their No.38 third selection but the clubs might be able to broker a deal that gives the Tigers a pick somewhere in between those selections.

Pick 20 is worth 912 draft points while the combined value of picks 45 (Chol compensation) and 38 are worth 812 points.

So it makes sense for the Tigers to preserve their Chol compensation then attempt to secure a late 20s pick from North Melbourne instead of risk losing the free agency compensation altogether.
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So the tigers want a pick between our picks 20,38 - they can keep their pick 28
 
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FREE AGENCY IS ON: Roo's future unclear, why Swans won't match bid

Check out Inside Trading for all the latest trade and free agency news
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KANGA UNCERTAIN AS FREE AGENCY NEARS
NORTH Melbourne midfielder Trent Dumont faces a nervous wait in coming weeks with the unrestricted free agent remaining without a contract offer.

The free agency period opens on Friday but Dumont's future remains unclear, with the Kangaroos yet to table a contract to the 26-year-old.

Dumont was a member of the club's leadership group in 2020 but had an injury-hit campaign under new coach David Noble in 2021 that saw him play the final 14 games of the Roos' season.

He can walk to a rival club if another deal arises as an unrestricted free agent but if North Melbourne doesn't offer a new contract Dumont could have to wait until the delisted free agency window.

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Trent Dumont at North Melbourne training in June, 2021. Picture AFL Photos

There could be three free agency deals lodged when the window opens officially on Friday, with Mabior Chol's move to Gold Coast, Jake Kelly's move to Essendon and George Hewett's shift to Carlton all on the cards.

Chol is joining the Suns on a four-year deal and Kelly the Bombers on a three-year deal, with Richmond and Adelaide to wait on the compensation picks provided by the AFL for the unrestricted free agents.

Hewett is the last remaining restricted free agent, meaning the Swans have the rights to match the Blues' four-year deal, worth approximately $450,000 a season.

But Sydney will not do that for Hewett, who was also on the trade table last season, and will instead pick up a compensation pick for losing him, potentially at the end of the second round of the draft or within the third round. - Callum Twomey
 
Harris 10 said:
where are we getting a late 20’s pick from?

From Herald Sun
Richmond would normally have secured Robbie Tarrant on a two-year free agency deal on Friday but will instead trade for him with a late pick next week.

As reported by the Herald Sun, Mabior Chol’s four-year deal is likely to trigger a third-round compensation pick (pick 45).

But if the Tigers bring in Tarrant as a free agent the net value of both free agency transactions is taken into account by the AFL, so the Tigers could have the Chol compensation cancelled out.

Richmond and the Roos are happy to get a deal done for Callum Coleman Jones early in trade week that will also factor in trading for Tarrant instead of moving him as a free agent.

Richmond would ideally have hoped for North Melbourne’s No.20 pick instead of their No.38 third selection but the clubs might be able to broker a deal that gives the Tigers a pick somewhere in between those selections.

Pick 20 is worth 912 draft points while the combined value of picks 45 (Chol compensation) and 38 are worth 812 points.

So it makes sense for the Tigers to preserve their Chol compensation then attempt to secure a late 20s pick from North Melbourne instead of risk losing the free agency compensation altogether.
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This scenario has got difficult, long, drawn out shitfight written all over it.
 

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Not really man. I'm just aware that a list needs depth and can't be full of superstars and youth.

Dumont would be a solid piece in any afl squad despite being a bit slow. He seems to have a good head on his shoulders, knows his role, and might actually be able to flourish a bit more under a second year of Noble.

Look at what happened to someone like Hall over the course of a year. It just takes a role change or tinkering in position to recognise the strengths of a player.
 
buttox said:
I know we dont do Super Coach much in here.(going of Ave)
But his drop off was stark this year. almost 40% down.
He played mid much more in 2020 due to our injury list. (he was ranked our number 2 player at the club last year. Jed was best)
He was pretty consistent as a wingman for the 4 years previous.
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Harris 10 said:
where are we getting a late 20’s pick from?

From Herald Sun
Richmond would normally have secured Robbie Tarrant on a two-year free agency deal on Friday but will instead trade for him with a late pick next week.

As reported by the Herald Sun, Mabior Chol’s four-year deal is likely to trigger a third-round compensation pick (pick 45).

But if the Tigers bring in Tarrant as a free agent the net value of both free agency transactions is taken into account by the AFL, so the Tigers could have the Chol compensation cancelled out.

Richmond and the Roos are happy to get a deal done for Callum Coleman Jones early in trade week that will also factor in trading for Tarrant instead of moving him as a free agent.

Richmond would ideally have hoped for North Melbourne’s No.20 pick instead of their No.38 third selection but the clubs might be able to broker a deal that gives the Tigers a pick somewhere in between those selections.

Pick 20 is worth 912 draft points while the combined value of picks 45 (Chol compensation) and 38 are worth 812 points.

So it makes sense for the Tigers to preserve their Chol compensation then attempt to secure a late 20s pick from North Melbourne instead of risk losing the free agency compensation altogether.
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Wouldn’t worry about getting a late pick in the 20s as we are not overpaying with the leverage with have.
 
Firebat said:
Not really man. I'm just aware that a list needs depth and can't be full of superstars and youth.

Dumont would be a solid piece in any afl squad despite being a bit slow. He seems to have a good head on his shoulders, knows his role, and might actually be able to flourish a bit more under a second year of Noble.

Look at what happened to someone like Hall over the course of a year. It just takes a role change or tinkering in position to recognise the strengths of a player.
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I’m only kidding mate. All good.


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Riley Beveridge reckons Atley will be at North (possibly a one year deal)

From 6min in

 

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New_Roo said:
The other 12 clubs already spoken to him clearly don't have the same respect then!


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The last thing a kid playing finals against bigger stronger ... older players needs is distractions, especially during finals.
 
Harris 10 said:
where are we getting a late 20’s pick from?

From Herald Sun
Richmond would normally have secured Robbie Tarrant on a two-year free agency deal on Friday but will instead trade for him with a late pick next week.

As reported by the Herald Sun, Mabior Chol’s four-year deal is likely to trigger a third-round compensation pick (pick 45).

But if the Tigers bring in Tarrant as a free agent the net value of both free agency transactions is taken into account by the AFL, so the Tigers could have the Chol compensation cancelled out.

Richmond and the Roos are happy to get a deal done for Callum Coleman Jones early in trade week that will also factor in trading for Tarrant instead of moving him as a free agent.

Richmond would ideally have hoped for North Melbourne’s No.20 pick instead of their No.38 third selection but the clubs might be able to broker a deal that gives the Tigers a pick somewhere in between those selections.

Pick 20 is worth 912 draft points while the combined value of picks 45 (Chol compensation) and 38 are worth 812 points.

So it makes sense for the Tigers to preserve their Chol compensation then attempt to secure a late 20s pick from North Melbourne instead of risk losing the free agency compensation altogether.
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Dear Richmond,

**** off.
 
 
Harris 10 said:
where are we getting a late 20’s pick from?

From Herald Sun
Richmond would normally have secured Robbie Tarrant on a two-year free agency deal on Friday but will instead trade for him with a late pick next week.

As reported by the Herald Sun, Mabior Chol’s four-year deal is likely to trigger a third-round compensation pick (pick 45).

But if the Tigers bring in Tarrant as a free agent the net value of both free agency transactions is taken into account by the AFL, so the Tigers could have the Chol compensation cancelled out.

Richmond and the Roos are happy to get a deal done for Callum Coleman Jones early in trade week that will also factor in trading for Tarrant instead of moving him as a free agent.

Richmond would ideally have hoped for North Melbourne’s No.20 pick instead of their No.38 third selection but the clubs might be able to broker a deal that gives the Tigers a pick somewhere in between those selections.

Pick 20 is worth 912 draft points while the combined value of picks 45 (Chol compensation) and 38 are worth 812 points.

So it makes sense for the Tigers to preserve their Chol compensation then attempt to secure a late 20s pick from North Melbourne instead of risk losing the free agency compensation altogether.
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The second they start talking draft points in a trade article you know they're talking out of their arse. The only picks that matter are the ones you're gonna use.
 
Harris 10 said:
where are we getting a late 20’s pick from?

From Herald Sun
Richmond would normally have secured Robbie Tarrant on a two-year free agency deal on Friday but will instead trade for him with a late pick next week.

As reported by the Herald Sun, Mabior Chol’s four-year deal is likely to trigger a third-round compensation pick (pick 45).

But if the Tigers bring in Tarrant as a free agent the net value of both free agency transactions is taken into account by the AFL, so the Tigers could have the Chol compensation cancelled out.

Richmond and the Roos are happy to get a deal done for Callum Coleman Jones early in trade week that will also factor in trading for Tarrant instead of moving him as a free agent.

Richmond would ideally have hoped for North Melbourne’s No.20 pick instead of their No.38 third selection but the clubs might be able to broker a deal that gives the Tigers a pick somewhere in between those selections.

Pick 20 is worth 912 draft points while the combined value of picks 45 (Chol compensation) and 38 are worth 812 points.

So it makes sense for the Tigers to preserve their Chol compensation then attempt to secure a late 20s pick from North Melbourne instead of risk losing the free agency compensation altogether.
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Written from Richmond's point of view.
They clearly didn't get this info from North.
This is Richmond winding back what they will accept.
 
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