List Mgmt. 2021 Trade & List Management Thread II - IN: CCJ

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Lore's 2021 Draft Order

Spoiler: Lore's 2022 Future Picks Draft Order

 

[King Corey]

Danial Cross joining North.
Strength and conditioning.

justroyal not a strength and conditioning fan?

 

[justroyal]

justroyal not a strength and conditioning fan?

Hear me out King Corey.
If you are pretty good at your job in elite sport, why on earth would you head into occupational rehab? More so in Albury. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and say it was Covid times, money was scarce etc and it was a good opportunity in a time of doubt. But occupational rehab is far far different than professional sport. Mundane doesn’t even begin to skim the surface on how lacklustre it is, let alone in Albury.

So obviously he was probably part of the cut all clubs had to go through and I actually work with someone who also got cut by melbs sport performance faculty last year and re-hired this year.

This guy is going to be assisting White with players going through rehab it appears - which will be out of White’s Scope of practice. It goes back to my issue with Jona, I feel like we could be doing a little better and more advanced in the rehab space. Someone with still working or in touch with the research space. If we’re going to go big in this reshuffle, go big

 

[Harvey Manfrenjensenden]

Trade Radio:

Essendon trade Sheils to North Melbourne for their future first and pick 20

Essendon trade some other plonker to Adelaide for their future second

Package that together for GWS pick 2

I'll never get that 30 seconds back.

 

[Le Grille]

Hear me out King Corey.
If you are pretty good at your job in elite sport, why on earth would you head into occupational rehab? More so in Albury. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and say it was Covid times, money was scarce etc and it was a good opportunity in a time of doubt. But occupational rehab is far far different than professional sport. Mundane doesn’t even begin to skim the surface on how luck lustre it is, let alone in Albury.

So obviously he was probably part of the cut all clubs had to go through and I actually work with someone who also got cut by melbs sport performance faculty last year and re-hired this year.

This guy is going to be assisting White with players going through rehab it appears - which will be out of Whites Scope of practice. It goes back to my issue with Jona, I feel like we could be doing a little better and more advanced in the rehab space. Someone with someone still working or in touch with the research space. If we’re going to go big in this reshuffle, go big

Occupational rehab specialists would have been handy in 2021

 

[The Lone Latic]

Trade Radio:

Essendon trade Sheils to North Melbourne for their future first and pick 20

Essendon trade some other plonker to Adelaide for their future second

Package that together for GWS pick 2

I'll never get that 30 seconds back.

Why the hell would we trade 20 high picks for a plodder who can't kick just because they were dumb enough to do it themselves? JFC these guys are deadset nuffies of the highest order.

Might as well fire up that Cunnington should move to * because we have to bend over to help other clubs for *checks notes*

Reasons.....

 

[King Corey]

Hear me out King Corey.
If you are pretty good at your job in elite sport, why on earth would you head into occupational rehab? More so in Albury. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and say it was Covid times, money was scarce etc and it was a good opportunity in a time of doubt. But occupational rehab is far far different than professional sport. Mundane doesn’t even begin to skim the surface on how lacklustre it is, let alone in Albury.

So obviously he was probably part of the cut all clubs had to go through and I actually work with someone who also got cut by melbs sport performance faculty last year and re-hired this year.

This guy is going to be assisting White with players going through rehab it appears - which will be out of White’s Scope of practice. It goes back to my issue with Jona, I feel like we could be doing a little better and more advanced in the rehab space. Someone with still working or in touch with the research space. If we’re going to go big in this reshuffle, go big

Thanks for the explanation mate. I thought you were just disliking it randomly for laughs.

Don't have any educated view on that area so those are informative thoughts.

 

[Thndr]

Then he found out we didn't have spongey floors...

 

[the flying ham]

So a heap of posters think frog is perfect for Carlton without even having to think about it.

But what about taz and frog to Richmond for CCJ.

Both free agents

 

[giantroo]

GWS is eyeing off a Demons academy player — and the Giants could pull a trade and draft surprise with the No.2 pick they secured from Collingwood.

Jon Ralph, Jay Clark and Glenn McFarlane

16 min read
September 30, 2021 - 3:00PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom



Greater Western Sydney is seriously considering using its first selection on Melbourne’s Sudanese next generation academy player Mac Andrew in what is shaping as the Demons’ gift to the competition.

But the Giants could end up trading their No.2 overall pick to a rival to shuffle several spots back down the order if it’s confident it could still secure Andrew, with Richmond and Geelong chasing an early draft pick.

The Demons remain furious they cannot pick 200cm ruck-forward Andrew despite a massive investment in a player rivals concede has been fast-tracked because of Melbourne’s support.

As an athletic tall who is still several years from emerging as a regular senior player, clubs believe he has the same repeat efforts and sparkling gifts Melbourne ruckman Luke Jackson

9

Luke Jackson

Age

24

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.3

2star

K

3.3

1star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

3star

G

0.3

3star

D

8.3

2star

K

3.3

1star

HB

5.0

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

2star

G

0.3

3star

D

8.3

3star

K

3.3

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

3star

G

0.3

3star

has brought to the competition.

The Dandenong Stingrays ruckman was born in Egypt to South Sudanese parents and, before this year, was not part of the Vic Country teams.

As part of new rule tweaks, clubs cannot match bids for NGA players if rivals bid on them within the first 20 selections of the draft, with that rule to be expanded to the first 40 selections next year.

Jamarra Ugle-Hagan, who was an NGA product last year, was always going to be a star of the competition, despite the Dogs’ support, but rivals say the Demons’ work on Andrew since he was 14 has made him the player he will become.


GWS traded for Collingwood’s first-round pick last year and, at best, thought the selection could end up around No.10.

Instead, as the Pies won just two of their last nine games, the Giants pulled off one of the great trade heists to secure the No.2 overall pick, which will shuffle to pick four after a pair of father-sons are taken off the board.

Rivals believe Andrew could go between picks 5-10 so, if rivals like Richmond are determined to secure that GWS pick, the Giants would be open to offers.
He is unlikely to be on the draft board when the Giants use their next selection at No.13.
Geelong is another club keen to secure an early selection by trading a package of its selections for a top-10 pick.
For a GWS side with three rucks in Braydon Preuss

11

Braydon Preuss

Age

30

Ht

207cm

Wt

118kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.1

2star

K

6.1

2star

HB

3.1

3star

CL

1.9

4star

HO

20.9

5star

No current season stats available

D

9.8

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.4

4star

CL

2.4

5star

HO

26.2

5star

, Kieren Briggs and Matt Flynn, the decision to draft Andrew would come knowing there was no rush for him to make an instant impact.

Andrew’s manager is the brother of Norm Smith medallist Christian Petracca

3

Christian Petracca

Age

29

Ht

187cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.4

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

3.0

5star

CL

2.5

4star

D

24.4

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

3.5

3star

T

3.6

4star

CL

3.4

4star

D

19.0

5star

K

7.8

3star

HB

11.2

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.0

4star

. Picture: AFL Photos

Andrew is managed by Hemisphere’s Julian Petracca, brother of the Melbourne Norm Smith Medallist Christian.

Julian Petracca has also had an excellent season in helping secure four of the likely top 10 picks in the upcoming draft under the Hemisphere Management Group banner in Andrew, Northern Knights midfielder Josh Ward, Vic Country key defender Josh Gibcus and Sandringham Dragons midfielder Josh Callaghan.

AFL talent manager Kevin Sheehan said the sky was the limit for Andrew.

“He emerged from nowhere and, within a couple of weeks, we put him into the Australian Under 18 team and he played against Geelong’s VFL side over the Anzac Day weekend,” he said.

“And he did well in that game, some of his athletic movement for a kid of 200cm who is quick, can mark it … People just said, ‘Wow, how big is the upside of this guy?’.

“He played quite well in the Vic Metro v Vic Country game in July, he did some exceptional things in the air.

“He is a very balanced young fellow, communicates well in the team, loves the game.

“He is certainly in love with footy and he’s very advanced, so it’s a conundrum for Melbourne.”

 

[Shinboner1]

GWS is eyeing off a Demons academy player — and the Giants could pull a trade and draft surprise with the No.2 pick they secured from Collingwood.

Jon Ralph, Jay Clark and Glenn McFarlane

16 min read
September 30, 2021 - 3:00PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom



Greater Western Sydney is seriously considering using its first selection on Melbourne’s Sudanese next generation academy player Mac Andrew in what is shaping as the Demons’ gift to the competition.

But the Giants could end up trading their No.2 overall pick to a rival to shuffle several spots back down the order if it’s confident it could still secure Andrew, with Richmond and Geelong chasing an early draft pick.

The Demons remain furious they cannot pick 200cm ruck-forward Andrew despite a massive investment in a player rivals concede has been fast-tracked because of Melbourne’s support.

As an athletic tall who is still several years from emerging as a regular senior player, clubs believe he has the same repeat efforts and sparkling gifts Melbourne ruckman Luke Jackson has brought to the competition.

The Dandenong Stingrays ruckman was born in Egypt to South Sudanese parents and, before this year, was not part of the Vic Country teams.

As part of new rule tweaks, clubs cannot match bids for NGA players if rivals bid on them within the first 20 selections of the draft, with that rule to be expanded to the first 40 selections next year.

Jamarra Ugle-Hagan, who was an NGA product last year, was always going to be a star of the competition, despite the Dogs’ support, but rivals say the Demons’ work on Andrew since he was 14 has made him the player he will become.


GWS traded for Collingwood’s first-round pick last year and, at best, thought the selection could end up around No.10.

Instead, as the Pies won just two of their last nine games, the Giants pulled off one of the great trade heists to secure the No.2 overall pick, which will shuffle to pick four after a pair of father-sons are taken off the board.

Rivals believe Andrew could go between picks 5-10 so, if rivals like Richmond are determined to secure that GWS pick, the Giants would be open to offers.
He is unlikely to be on the draft board when the Giants use their next selection at No.13.
Geelong is another club keen to secure an early selection by trading a package of its selections for a top-10 pick.
For a GWS side with three rucks in Braydon Preuss, Kieren Briggs and Matt Flynn, the decision to draft Andrew would come knowing there was no rush for him to make an instant impact.

Andrew’s manager is the brother of Norm Smith medallist Christian Petracca. Picture: AFL Photos

Andrew is managed by Hemisphere’s Julian Petracca, brother of the Melbourne Norm Smith Medallist Christian.

Julian Petracca has also had an excellent season in helping secure four of the likely top 10 picks in the upcoming draft under the Hemisphere Management Group banner in Andrew, Northern Knights midfielder Josh Ward, Vic Country key defender Josh Gibcus and Sandringham Dragons midfielder Josh Callaghan.

AFL talent manager Kevin Sheehan said the sky was the limit for Andrew.

“He emerged from nowhere and, within a couple of weeks, we put him into the Australian Under 18 team and he played against Geelong’s VFL side over the Anzac Day weekend,” he said.

“And he did well in that game, some of his athletic movement for a kid of 200cm who is quick, can mark it … People just said, ‘Wow, how big is the upside of this guy?’.

“He played quite well in the Vic Metro v Vic Country game in July, he did some exceptional things in the air.

“He is a very balanced young fellow, communicates well in the team, loves the game.

“He is certainly in love with footy and he’s very advanced, so it’s a conundrum for Melbourne.”

Shame we dont have another first rounder or 2

 

[Orange Peanut]

So, if we want to recruit a player called Josh we are going to need to go through Petracca's brother.

 

[giantroo]

 

[ferball]

Both free agents

I know but what is the point of this thread if we can't throw up random bullshit to keep it going for another three pages?

 

[King Corey]

The Demons remain furious they cannot pick 200cm ruck-forward Andrew despite a massive investment in a player rivals concede has been fast-tracked because of Melbourne’s support.

Oh boohoo. They can console themselves with getting a top 3 draft pick Norm Smith winner for losing a key defender to a salary crammed premiership team.

 

[giantroo]

Oh look...

 

[King Corey]

Oh look...

Todd's Pros List 2019:

Play for a contender
Get paid anything I want
Can commute from Melbourne
Be the only ruckman on their list who isn't shite

Todd's Cons List 2019:
Be coached by a Scott brother

 

[RobZombie]

Im looking at our uncontracted guys.
Campbell, Atley, Dumont and Ham.
It may come down to Ats vs Dumont.

Yeah it may do. Even though I think many here are too harsh on him, I think Hall's success probably spells the end for Atley. Bonar/Perez/Atu/Young/PWalker is a decent bunch of young general defenders to sort through and figure out who can play, then there's McDonald who I'd be happy to see back down there and Hayden who could be a mid or defender. And of course Ham whom we could yet renew (I assume we're leaning towards yes unless something unexpected comes up in trade week). The unexpected emergence of a couple of more high-meterage senior HBFs has made this all a bit more interesting.

 

[New_Roo]

Apparently we have been really respectful of his finals campaign in the SANFL and we are a club who really wants to sit down in the family home and have a proper face to face conversation as opposed to over zoom. Which is fair enough. Huge investment.

The other 12 clubs already spoken to him clearly don't have the same respect then!


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[Del191229]

Why do they need a KPF when they drafted the next Wayne Carey in Logan McDonald last year?

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Wonder what Stack would cost, hypothetically?

 

[buttox]

Wonder what Stack would cost, hypothetically?

His value changes once CCJ is finalized.
From a second rounder to pretty much nothing.
Being uncontracted we can walk him.

 

[Shinboner1]

Wonder what Stack would cost, hypothetically?

PSD pick 1

 

[Sphynx]

Stack is still a rookie is he not?

I'm wondering if he falls under the same 3rd year rookie loophole as what we tried to recruit Young under, where they become a UFA.

It depends on the terms of Richmonds 1 year offer.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

Stack is still a rookie is he not?

I'm wondering if he falls under the same 3rd year rookie loophole as what we tried to recruit Young under, where they become a UFA.

It depends on the terms of Richmonds 1 year offer.

I think they just have to offer him a contract to remove that loophole. It's why we had to trade for Young, the Dogs just had to present they made him an offer. Saying that, it might be contradicted by the fourth year rookie rule exclusive to this season.

 

[buttox]

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