Analysis 2021 trade thread

[M Malice]

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Throwaway line I'm sure, but I wonder what we'd offload these picks for.

Suns have said they are after mature talent so no doubt their 3 and 19 will be on the table if the right player was offered, we'll take ours to the draft.

 

[Nuggo]

Though it sounds unlikely there is room in our CAP lying is the second language of the AFL.

 

[blueiris]

There aren’t any Academy players of any note this season can’t see us trading upwards with teams like Richmond who have 2 second round picks

 

[bungalow_bill]

To trade up it would need to be a very high pick to consider it. Blues pick 6 would be the lowest we should consider.

 

[jackess]

Maybe something like 14 and 18 for 9 and 27?

 

[briztoon]

The problem is that we don't have the salary to pay for a player so it would only be a package to move up.

Can’t think of too many players that would be worth trading up for, unless Callaghan was available.

Maybe Ben Hobbs, but I don’t know if we would/should trade up for another contested inside mid.

 

[jackess]

Can’t think of too many players that would be worth trading up for, unless Callaghan was available.

Maybe Ben Hobbs, but I don’t know if we would/should trade up for another contested inside mid.

Even by the time we get pushed back to picks 16 and 20?

 

[briztoon]

Maybe something like 14 and 18 for 9 and 27?

I’d almost consider that if we rated someone like Erasmus or Goater highly and they were looking like being off the board by our first pick.

But I would imagine all the decent KPP’s are gone by 27.

 

[briztoon]

Even by the time we get pushed back to picks 16 and 20?

I’m genuinely hoping one of Sinn, Goater or NWM is still available at 16. 20 I’d be confident JVR or Bazzo would still be available.

 

[cotter101]

Maybe something like 14 and 18 for 9 and 27?

If it got us Sinn/Goater, I’d probably do it.

 

[cotter101]

I’m genuinely hoping one of Sinn, Goater or NWM is still available at 16. 20 I’d be confident JVR or Bazzo would still be available.

That’s the dream really.

The more I think about it a KPP is probably a must if there’s a talented one worth taking at the second pick.

 

[mattsmob]

I’m genuinely hoping one of Sinn, Goater or NWM is still available at 16. 20 I’d be confident JVR or Bazzo would still be available.

Agree, with the stop-start season the Victorian kids have had along with some of the injuries to higher rated prospects I’m expecting a couple of the teams above us will take guys outside the consensus top 25. Although maybe not my preferences for each pick I’m expecting players I like to be available at all our first rounders.

 

[bungalow_bill]

I’d almost consider that if we rated someone like Erasmus or Goater highly and they were looking like being off the board by our first pick.

But I would imagine all the decent KPP’s are gone by 27.

Leave it until draft night post pick 8 (or pick 5 if it's the Blues pick) to see if who is still on the board is worth 14/18

 

[briztoon]

Leave it until draft night post pick 8 (or pick 5 if it's the Blues pick) to see if who is still on the board is worth 14/18

The trouble I’m having is two fold.

There’s currently still a lot of uncertainty about which kids are rated where, largely because the Vic kids didn’t get a full season.

And because the Vic kids didn’t run out a full season, we don’t know which of them are worth it.

My gut feel is, off the little footage I’ve seen, is that Goater would have risen up the draft rankings somewhat similar to what Bont or Oliver did.

I genuinely have him 4/5 in my own rankings, and potentially higher if I dropped Darcy down to around 8.

 

[BangyBangy]

Even by the time we get pushed back to picks 16 and 20?

I've never understood this. Our pick starting positions are only really valid for the players who aren't tied to father son / academy picks anyway. They don't move in relation to that.

 

[jackess]

I've never understood this. Our pick starting positions are only really valid for the players who aren't tied to father son / academy picks anyway. They don't move in relation to that.

When you're going off draft rankings including academy picks though you do need to take it into account.

 

[morsie]

Port have had a lot ins over the last year or two as well as having a lot of talent asking for more bucks.
Surely there salary cap must be under pressure

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

I've never understood this. Our pick starting positions are only really valid for the players who aren't tied to father son / academy picks anyway. They don't move in relation to that.

In terms of available talent, yes it makes no difference. But in terms of points for trading purposes it does.

 

[Quigley]

Can’t think of too many players that would be worth trading up for, unless Callaghan was available.

Maybe Ben Hobbs, but I don’t know if we would/should trade up for another contested inside mid.

I doubt we would move up for a mid. If we don't grab a KP this year it is a couple of years before we get another shot. The only one I was thinking we might go up for is Amiss but realistically I think we would sit and add Van Rooyan or Bazzo and a mid or flanker.

 

[mattsmob]

I doubt we would move up for a mid. If we don't grab a KP this year it is a couple of years before we get another shot. The only one I was thinking we might go up for is Amiss but realistically I think we would sit and add Van Rooyan or Bazzo and a mid or flanker.

I’m not sure how others feel but to me Amiss feels a little bit one dimensional, he may well be the best lead up forward of the lot of them but the other two seem to have more ways to play the game either as a forward or defender. I think Amiss will be a good player in the right situation but I don’t think that’s with us.

 

[Quigley]

I’m not sure how others feel but to me Amiss feels a little bit one dimensional, he may well be the best lead up forward of the lot of them but the other two seem to have more ways to play the game either as a forward or defender. I think Amiss will be a good player in the right situation but I don’t think that’s with us.

A lead up forward, with good athleticism and very good hands who can kick straight. I think he would suit any team to be honest. With that said he is late on the scene and has not played much against bigger bodies so there are certainly question marks.

 

[mattsmob]

A lead up forward, with good athleticism and very good hands who can kick straight. I think he would suit any team to be honest. With that said he is late on the scene and has not played much against bigger bodies so there are certainly question marks.

I think he’ll be very good in his role, just a little similar to Hipwood and I like the other two’s versatility more.

 

[Quigley]

I think he’ll be very good in his role, just a little similar to Hipwood and I like the other two’s versatility more.

I agree that there is not a spot at the moment but young key positions take a couple of years to develop and it is much better to be patient and forward plan rather than be caught out with zero options when injury hits like happened this year.

 

[Lace Out]

Amiss has got bust written all over him

 

[jackess]

A lead up forward, with good athleticism and very good hands who can kick straight. I think he would suit any team to be honest. With that said he is late on the scene and has not played much against bigger bodies so there are certainly question marks.

Sounds like Aaron Cornelius. Better athleticism?

Amiss has got bust written all over him