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Mat Rendell on SEN today said out of the ones being discussed along with Mason Cox for us, we would be mad not to take Mason Cox. Said he's tall, can ruck very well and can kick goals. Would allow Daniher to run around etc. Also said he'd take Mason Cox before Levi Casboult.

Said he was a big fan of his and that he's better than given credit for.
 
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MacMum said:
Mat Rendell on SEN today said out of the ones being discussed along with Mason Cox for us, we would be mad not to take Mason Cox. Said he's tall, can ruck very well and can kick goals. Would allow Daniher to run around etc. Also said he'd take Mason Cox before Levi Casboult.

Said he was a big fan of his and that he's better than given credit for.
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Single handedly stitched up Richmond and got Collingwood into a grand final. Not sure what his goal kicking stats are like but when I have seen him play he rarely seems to miss a set shot.
 

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MacMum said:
Mat Rendell on SEN today said out of the ones being discussed along with Mason Cox for us, we would be mad not to take Mason Cox. Said he's tall, can ruck very well and can kick goals. Would allow Daniher to run around etc. Also said he'd take Mason Cox before Levi Casboult.

Said he was a big fan of his and that he's better than given credit for.
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My preference would be Cox. More versatility. But if we end up with Casboult then meh.
 
POBT said:
The bloke's a troll. I wouldn't bother responding.
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Wait. I'm confused? I asked a genuine question about trading Neale so we can help the club win a premiership and I'm a troll? It was a genuine question and Fagan also stated he's trying new ways of changing the club himself? I was literally going off that. If I said something bad that I have missed, then I apologize, but I thought my question was genuine. Oh well 🤷‍♂️.
 
bungalow_bill said:
Even without any kind of rebuild we have 2 top 20 draft picks this year and next including the likely 2022 number 1 pick. Adding that kind of talent to an already top 2/4 team is rare
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Wouldn't be surprised if we added another top 20 pick in addition to Ashcroft, with Jasper Fletcher highly rated.
 
MacMum said:
Mat Rendell on SEN today said out of the ones being discussed along with Mason Cox for us, we would be mad not to take Mason Cox. Said he's tall, can ruck very well and can kick goals. Would allow Daniher to run around etc. Also said he'd take Mason Cox before Levi Casboult.

Said he was a big fan of his and that he's better than given credit for.
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Didn’t Rendall draft him
 
Arr0w said:
Curious, bit surprised you are considering Cox or Levi ( better of the 2 options) given the number of talls you have on your list, even with Hipwood being injured.

Ballenden not rated for the role, these guys would fill?
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Need one who can clunk a mark, provide a target and ruck part time when needed. Fullarton is definitely not that third tall clunker but can provide ruck relief, Ballenden is playing more at CHB lately. After that cupboard is bare.
 
T Rick said:
Single handedly stitched up Richmond and got Collingwood into a grand final. Not sure what his goal kicking stats are like but when I have seen him play he rarely seems to miss a set shot.
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You are correct in that Cox can kick straight.
His yearly goal career average starting from year 2021: 1.1, 1.3, 1.4, 1.0, 1.1, 1.6 (total career average 1.2)
2021: 8g-8b
2020: 14g-2b
2019: 19g-10b
2018: 25g-12b
2017: 10g-5b
2016: 17g-7b

However Cox has not cracked the 10 disposal average per game in any one year he has played. His best being 9.9 disposals in year 2018
His H/O average per game as a F/R starting with year 2021: 3.3 H/O, 3.0, 4.6, 6.8. 16.1, 7.2 (total career average 6.6)
Career tackle average is 1.4
Cox is 31 years old in March
 
mpal6 said:
Need one who can clunk a mark, provide a target and ruck part time when needed. Fullarton is definitely not that third tall clunker but can provide ruck relief, Ballenden is playing more at CHB lately. After that cupboard is bare.
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Rated Ballenden in his draft year, can play both ends and chopout in the ruck. Surprised he wasn't tried before Fullarton
 

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I wonder if we could consider bringing Jarrod Cameron over and offer him a VFL contract for 2022?
See how he goes and whether he is worth bringing on for 2023.
 
Dalions said:
I wonder if we could consider bringing Jarrod Cameron over and offer him a VFL contract for 2022?
See how he goes and whether he is worth bringing on for 2023.
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I have it on good advice that there is very little draw for JC to come to Brisbane (he didn't do his highschooling there like Charlie). In addition - Charlie has apparently been noted saying that there is no major want for them to play together like some other brothers. He is settled in WA and I believe is dealing with some ongoing personal issues, whilst not out of the question, I think a move to Brissy is unlikely.
 
lioninthesand said:
I have it on good advice that there is very little draw for JC to come to Brisbane (he didn't do his highschooling there like Charlie). In addition - Charlie has apparently been noted saying that there is no major want for them to play together like some other brothers. He is settled in WA and I believe is dealing with some ongoing personal issues, whilst not out of the question, I think a move to Brissy is unlikely.
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Would be very surprised if he doesn't move tbh
 
I will be blunt.Massive no to Cox, Levi or fort. Levi and Cox are like the products you would find at the Not Quite Right store reduced to clear on a clearance sale. They can beat their drums in the media as much as they want selling their wares. Frankly I don’t care.I want someone who is in the age profile, young enough to develop and grow with this group.

Free up some extra salary cap space and go after someone. Someone Young (pardon the pun) enough who wants to explore his options. The old adage -Pay for what you get. Why should the club go after cheap and nasty when we could potentially do better. I really like CCJ and is my preferred option,Young is my next option.


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WESTERN Bulldogs tall Lewis Young will explore his options at rivals before weighing up whether to accept a deal to remain at Whitten Oval.

Young, 22, will meet with prospective clubs over the coming days as the Dogs await an answer on his future.

The Grand Finalists have had a two-year offer in front of Young for more than a month and want him to be part of their long-term future. However, he will take his time to work through whether stronger opportunities lie elsewhere.

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Lewis Young of the Bulldogs in action during training on September 22, 2021. Picture: AFL Photos
Young played nine matches this season, including two finals as a pinch-hit ruckman. But it took his career tally to just 24 games across five seasons after he was drafted in the months following the Dogs' 2016 premiership.

The 202cm South Australian arrived as a key forward but has spent more time in defence at the Dogs. Swingman written all over him,just what the doctor ordered.
 
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brisbanelions said:
I will be blunt.Massive no to Cox, Levi or fort. Levi and Cox are like the products you would find at the Not Quite Right store reduced to clear on a clearance sale. They can beat their drums in the media as much as they want selling their wares. Frankly I don’t care.I want someone who is in the age profile, young enough to develop and grow with this group.

Free up some extra salary cap space and go after someone. Someone Young (pardon the pun) enough who wants to explore his options. The old adage -Pay for what you get. Why should the club go after cheap and nasty when we could potentially do better. I really like CCJ and is my preferred option,Young is my next option.


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WESTERN Bulldogs tall Lewis Young will explore his options at rivals before weighing up whether to accept a deal to remain at Whitten Oval.

Young, 22, will meet with prospective clubs over the coming days as the Dogs await an answer on his future.

The Grand Finalists have had a two-year offer in front of Young for more than a month and want him to be part of their long-term future. However, he will take his time to work through whether stronger opportunities lie elsewhere.

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Lewis Young of the Bulldogs in action during training on September 22, 2021. Picture: AFL Photos
Young played nine matches this season, including two finals as a pinch-hit ruckman. But it took his career tally to just 24 games across five seasons after he was drafted in the months following the Dogs' 2016 premiership.

The 202cm South Australian arrived as a key forward but has spent more time in defence at the Dogs. Swingman written all over him,just what the doctor ordered.
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The problem is freeing up the cap space and list space.

You just can’t trade contracted players out if there are no clubs willing to trade for them.

No opposition club is trading for CEY or Ely Smith.

The reason we’ve said we are looking for a bargain signing is we don’t have the money in the salary cap for anyone else.

The club has been very clear on that.
 
Article on SEN - Worth a read.I agree with a lot, that is written in this article.Article BY SEB MOTTRAM.Props Seb,love your honest and frank piece.

The club can either keep the status quo or embrace change.Change is far to often seen as being very negative however change can be the spark that lights the fire in a real positive way, taking us to where we should be, a Premiership side.

The AFL club that can't afford to have a quiet trade period.about the Brisbane Lions.
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Brisbane can’t afford to have a quiet AFL trade period and must be active in turning their recent success into a premiership, according to Matthew Lloyd.

The Lions had a strong season and climbed into the top four by the barest of margins in Round 23, only to go out in straight sets against both eventual Grand Finalists Melbourne and the Western Bulldogs.



It’s a familiar tale for Chris Fagan’s men, who have earned the right to a double chance in the last three years but won just one final in that time.

Few clubs can maintain momentum at the top of the ladder for sustained periods, and therefore the 2022 campaign shapes as an important one for the Lions to make good on this successful run.

When asked which club he’d be disappointed in if they did little during the trade period, Lloyd named the Lions as the team that can’t afford to sit on their laurels.

“It’s Brisbane for me,” he told AFL Trade Radio’s The Early Trade.

“Brisbane to me are a club that’s knocking on the door all the time, they’ve blown finals and they should have been in a Grand Final by now.

“They had it all for them at the Gabba last year, failed again in this year’s finals series, belted by Melbourne and beaten by the Western Bulldogs when it was all there for them.”

The Lions missed tall forward Eric Hipwood during the finals after he went down with an ACL injury late in the season, while fellow key target Dan McStay (concussion) also missed the club’s one-point semi-final loss.

Despite those injuries and more, Lloyd isn’t giving the Lions an excuse for their disappointing end to the season.

“They had their injuries but they were also badly exposed through the midfield, they had to bring in Jack Payne so it says to me their depth is an issue in the finals series,” he said.

“There is talk of Mason Cox and Levi Casboult, so it shows they are well aware of their issues and concerns with Hipwood gone for 12 months.

“They got found out through the midfield, they’re seen as a good midfield but they were short against Melbourne.”

It means the Lions have multiple options on the areas to beef up, but either way next year is crucial.

“I’m fascinated what area they identify; it looks like it’s going to be their forward line just to support Daniher for a period,” Lloyd said.

“But next year has to be their year I think.”

However, Brisbane can at least claim one win, after convincing Brownlow Medallist Lachie Neale to stay at the club despite the midfielder assessing his options to return to Fremantle.
 
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brisbanelions said:
I will be blunt.Massive no to Cox, Levi or fort. Levi and Cox are like the products you would find at the Not Quite Right store reduced to clear on a clearance sale. They can beat their drums in the media as much as they want selling their wares. Frankly I don’t care.I want someone who is in the age profile, young enough to develop and grow with this group.

Free up some extra salary cap space and go after someone. Someone Young (pardon the pun) enough who wants to explore his options. The old adage -Pay for what you get. Why should the club go after cheap and nasty when we could potentially do better. I really like CCJ and is my preferred option,Young is my next option.


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WESTERN Bulldogs tall Lewis Young will explore his options at rivals before weighing up whether to accept a deal to remain at Whitten Oval.

Young, 22, will meet with prospective clubs over the coming days as the Dogs await an answer on his future.

The Grand Finalists have had a two-year offer in front of Young for more than a month and want him to be part of their long-term future. However, he will take his time to work through whether stronger opportunities lie elsewhere.

nf5TU39M.jpg


Lewis Young of the Bulldogs in action during training on September 22, 2021. Picture: AFL Photos
Young played nine matches this season, including two finals as a pinch-hit ruckman. But it took his career tally to just 24 games across five seasons after he was drafted in the months following the Dogs' 2016 premiership.

The 202cm South Australian arrived as a key forward but has spent more time in defence at the Dogs. Swingman written all over him,just what the doctor ordered.
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Why not go for Max Gawn or Ben King?
 
Because our midfield is slow and 1 dimensional and was exposed Badly against the best midfields this year . Having some power and strength in there with starce and Rayner gives us a little more flexibility and makes us less predictable. I’m also backing that’s answorth can return and be a high level shutdown small defender . If it doesn’t work out move starce back but if we keep doing the same stuff we gonna get the same result .

Bailey adds zip but starcevich and Rayner in short bursts add bull like power which we desperately need against teams like Melbourne .

Daniels Riches said:
I don't get this line of thinking. Why would we want to move Starce into the midfield when he had just shown that he is close to an AA level small defender? Should only continue to master this position. Keep him where he is shining imo.

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brisbanelions said:
Article on SEN - Worth a read.I agree with a lot, that is written in this article.Article BY SEB MOTTRAM.Props Seb,love your honest and frank piece.

The club can either keep the status quo or embrace change.Change is far to often seen as being very negative however change can be the spark that lights the fire in a real positive way, taking us to where we should be, a Premiership side.

The AFL club that can't afford to have a quiet trade period.about the Brisbane Lions.
quote (for those who cannot see the article)
Brisbane can’t afford to have a quiet AFL trade period and must be active in turning their recent success into a premiership, according to Matthew Lloyd.

The Lions had a strong season and climbed into the top four by the barest of margins in Round 23, only to go out in straight sets against both eventual Grand Finalists Melbourne and the Western Bulldogs.



It’s a familiar tale for Chris Fagan’s men, who have earned the right to a double chance in the last three years but won just one final in that time.

Few clubs can maintain momentum at the top of the ladder for sustained periods, and therefore the 2022 campaign shapes as an important one for the Lions to make good on this successful run.

When asked which club he’d be disappointed in if they did little during the trade period, Lloyd named the Lions as the team that can’t afford to sit on their laurels.

“It’s Brisbane for me,” he told AFL Trade Radio’s The Early Trade.

“Brisbane to me are a club that’s knocking on the door all the time, they’ve blown finals and they should have been in a Grand Final by now.

“They had it all for them at the Gabba last year, failed again in this year’s finals series, belted by Melbourne and beaten by the Western Bulldogs when it was all there for them.”

The Lions missed tall forward Eric Hipwood during the finals after he went down with an ACL injury late in the season, while fellow key target Dan McStay (concussion) also missed the club’s one-point semi-final loss.

Despite those injuries and more, Lloyd isn’t giving the Lions an excuse for their disappointing end to the season.

“They had their injuries but they were also badly exposed through the midfield, they had to bring in Jack Payne so it says to me their depth is an issue in the finals series,” he said.

“There is talk of Mason Cox and Levi Casboult, so it shows they are well aware of their issues and concerns with Hipwood gone for 12 months.

“They got found out through the midfield, they’re seen as a good midfield but they were short against Melbourne.”

It means the Lions have multiple options on the areas to beef up, but either way next year is crucial.

“I’m fascinated what area they identify; it looks like it’s going to be their forward line just to support Daniher for a period,” Lloyd said.

“But next year has to be their year I think.”

However, Brisbane can at least claim one win, after convincing Brownlow Medallist Lachie Neale to stay at the club despite the midfielder assessing his options to return to Fremantle.
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It's Mathew Lloyd's opinion....to be taken with a grain of salt.
 

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