Analysis 2021 trade thread

[Brizzys Squizzy]

Despite giving up next year's third (meaning we will have to scramble to make that up somehow), we seem to have done well in this deal on paper.
Happy with the choice of a mature ruck over more of a forward ruck like Cox or Casboult. Plus I'm pretty confident he can play a bit. I'm going to stick by my comments from the other day that he might overtake Oscar.

Pretty sure the recruitment team know what there doing, another trade game within the draft to work some magic, and of course next yrs trade period., to get the picks needed.

 

[lioninthesand]

Darcy on the left, his older Brother Jackson on the right at the Gabba 20 years ago. I reckon the Forts are happy family tonight.

 

[Big Sauce 21]

The biggest tick for this period was not bringing in Mason Cox

18

Mason Cox

Age

35

Ht

211cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.7

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.2

4star

D

6.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.3

2star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.8

5star

 

[Viceregal]

The biggest tick for this period was not bringing in Mason Cox

You forgot the joys of Casboult

 

[Viceregal]

I love the Gateway as it’s an easy climb, but yeah, I wouldn’t be letting a young kid freewheel down. Easily hit 50k’s+.

I remember feeling very un-secure going down a hill at 70 - somehow just didn't feel like my tyres and the road were quite on good enough speaking terms and the certain knowledge that if *anything* happened out of the ordinary I would be toast wasn't helping either. Would be very easy to over-react when you feel you are losing control.

 

[BuntonRules]

If our future third is pick 50 then Fort ended up costing us the equivalent of pick 62

A steal. Got a good feel about young Darcy.

 

[briztoon]

I remember feeling very un-secure going down a hill at 70 - somehow just didn't feel like my tyres and the road were quite on good enough speaking terms and the certain knowledge that if *anything* happened out of the ordinary I would be toast wasn't helping either. Would be very easy to over-react when you feel you are losing control.

It’s a pretty steep or pretty long hill to get to 70km. I’ve only hit those speeds in France, because there’s not much around Brisbane/SEQ where I’d be comfortable at those speeds (especially at my age now).

 

[Live in hope]

A steal. Got a good feel about young Darcy.

Excuse the intrusion but just want to say you’ll be pleased with Darcy. While Fort is lanky and is not a star/A grader, he is a genuine strong contesting 1st ruck who can play forward/kick goals (skinny version of Omac). Very good second efforts and a smart player. Unfortunately for Darcy, Chris Scott had a strong preference for Esava R (ie. big forward marking presence but weak 2nd ruck) as a backup to Stanley.

Hope Darcy goes well with the Lions.

 

[JasRulz63]

Fort is at the right age where he can step in straight away as a back-up ruck, and also his career will probably be winding down as our young rucks are ready to go. We similarly targeted Ceglar when he was roughly this age too.

 

[Gadzorks]

A Fort-uitous trade.

Excuse the intrusion but just want to say you’ll be pleased with Darcy. While Fort is lanky and is not a star/A grader, he is a genuine strong contesting 1st ruck who can play forward/kick goals (skinny version of Omac). Very good second efforts and a smart player. Unfortunately for Darcy, Chris Scott had a strong preference for Esava R (ie. big forward marking presence but weak 2nd ruck) as a backup to Stanley.

Hope Darcy goes well with the Lions.

Crikey. Didn't think there could be a skinny-er version of O.

 

[Fagenslions36]

With fort it will allow us to keep
Joe Deep forward and have one of Fort and big o be the 3rd tall when not rucking. Bringing in Charlie , Lincoln and Rayner into the game . Bailey to spend more time in midfield .

 

[cotter101]

Glad to get Fort. I think he starts in the team next season.

 

[Sproj]

It’s a pretty steep or pretty long hill to get to 70km. I’ve only hit those speeds in France, because there’s not much around Brisbane/SEQ where I’d be comfortable at those speeds (especially at my age now).

Pretty standard coming down Cootha but yeah that’s about it in Brissy.

 

[DERRINALPHIL]

Well, we needed a back up ruckman and that's what the club went out and got. Good work by our club.

Don't understand how/why we also seemed to get better draft picks as well.

Could someone explain this?

Fort is not on roster watch yet. I would like to know more about him, I wonder what he is being paid.

 

[royboys4eva]

Smart pick up and at not much cost and I love the fact he comes from a family of Lions supporters. He will give everything and is a perfect foil for Big O. I wouldn't be surprised if Fort starts round 1 with Oscar in the goal square. Least we can now cover any injury to Oscar which was massive concern this year.

Was a very boring trade period - I'm sure covid played its part with clubs not keen to throw big money about. Onto the draft and strengthen our already strong list with 2 picks in the first round and Ashcroft possibly number 1 next year. So much more pleasing than not so long ago when we had players leaving on masse and we scrambled for clubs b grade players.

 

[M Malice]

I wonder with the acquisition of Darcy Fort

32

Darcy Fort

Age

32

Ht

204cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.6

2star

K

5.8

2star

HB

2.9

3star

CL

2.9

4star

HO

17.8

5star

D

9.2

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

3.2

2star

CL

3.6

4star

HO

21.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

CL

2.2

4star

HO

15.6

5star

if that means we are more likely to delist Connor Ballenden, Fort turned 28 only 2 months ago so we should get at least 3-4 good years of footy out of him, I like the write ups about him and the scarce footage, any decent highlight packages out there featuring him?

 

[Dalions]

Some highlights of him towelling Oscar last year on the second page of this Insta post

 

[Lazza16]

Some highlights of him towelling Oscar last year on the second page of this Insta post

Thanks Dalions for Dafootage.....finally we have a ruckman who gets infront at boundary throw ins.....also at training would have wrestled Hawkins alot in ruck contests.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

I wonder with the acquisition of Darcy Fort if that means we are more likely to delist Connor Ballenden, Fort turned 28 only 2 months ago so we should get at least 3-4 good years of footy out of him, I like the write ups about him and the scarce footage, any decent highlight packages out there featuring him?

We don't have the list space anymore to keep Ballenden (or Brock Smith or Joyce), they'll all be delisted. Whether Fort is replacing him depends on whether we feel we need another KPD behind Payne.

 

[Lazza16]

We don't have the list space anymore to keep Ballenden (or Brock Smith or Joyce), they'll all be delisted. Whether Fort is replacing him depends on whether we feel we need another KPD behind Payne.

I wonder, if they have the space, Noble would extend a lifeline to Joyce or Ballenden. Both could be ok with some consistent opportunity. Smith could be a not so good selection by the Big Conole from the limited 2s games I saw.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Smith could be a not so good selection by the Big Conole from the limited 2s games I saw.

It's particularly annoying that the two picks before him were Trent Rivers and Charlie Comben who could have both been useful to us, but such is life, can't win 'em all.

 

[Lazza16]

It's particularly annoying that the two picks before him were Trent Rivers and Charlie Comben who could have both been useful to us, but such is life, can't win 'em all.

Yeah Comden looks exciting if North can get him on the park for an extended period.

 

[Mighty Lions]

I wonder with the acquisition of Darcy Fort if that means we are more likely to delist Connor Ballenden, Fort turned 28 only 2 months ago so we should get at least 3-4 good years of footy out of him, I like the write ups about him and the scarce footage, any decent highlight packages out there featuring him?

A few points worth making when it comes to Connor:

The winner of the reserves B&F is somewhat a death wish to the recipient historically.
If Connor was thought of in any way as a back up to Big O, Fort would not be on our list.
Connor has been a listed Lions player now for several years and has not been promoted even though he was an outstanding player in our reserves.
When he did get a gig in the best 22, he never really showed much for Fagan & Co to be excited about.
He definitely has more going against him than for him as it sits right now.

 

[jackess]

A few points worth making when it comes to Connor:

The winner of the reserves B&F is somewhat a death wish to the recipient historically.
If Connor was thought of in any way as a back up to Big O, Fort would not be on our list.
Connor has been a listed Lions player now for several years and has not been promoted even though he was an outstanding player in our reserves.
When he did get a gig in the best 22, he never really showed much for Fagan & Co to be excited about.
He definitely has more going against him than for him as it sits right now.

And if list sizes weren't reduced he'd be a decent chance of keeping his spot

 

[Nuggo]

Being only 22 and a tall to win the reserves B&F holds more water for me than previous reserves B&F winners. If not re-contracted due to list spots could be considered unlucky.