Play Nice 2022 AFL/AFLW Crowds/TV Ratings/Stream thread

[The_Wookie]

McLachlan said the highest-rating grand final in history was the 1996 decider, when 4.4m watched the Swan lose to North Melbourne a week after Tony Lockett

Tony Lockett

Age

59

Ht

191cm

Wt

108kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.2

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

1.8

2star

M

6.3

5star

T

0.5

3star

G

4.8

5star

No current season stats available

D

8.2

2star

K

5.6

3star

HB

2.6

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

0.0

1star

G

1.4

5star

kicked that preliminary final post-siren point at a packed SCG.

The 1996 figure marginally shades the viewership for Swans’ 2005 triumph against West Coast, which featured Leo Barry

Leo Barry

Age

48

Ht

184cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.8

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

4.4

1star

K

2.6

1star

HB

1.8

2star

M

0.8

1star

T

1.2

3star

’s heroic match-saving mark and broke a 72-year Swans premiership drought.

The next four highest-rating AFL grand finals also featured the Swans: the 2006 loss to the Eagles (4.15m), the 2016 loss to the Bulldogs (4.09m), the 2012 victory over Hawthorn (4.08m) and the 2014 loss to Hawthorn (3.73m).

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[JohnZ]

There is a special place in hell for anyone that believes it is their entitlement or right to attend the AFL GF over a competing club member.

Would not matter who was playing, if o had a ticket and Richmond wasn’t competing I’d do my utmost to ensure a competing club member got it.




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AFL members are club members. I also pay extra to the cats for reserved seats down at KP.

IMO, two things would fix the issue right away:

1. All 55k seats in the public reserve have to go in the ballot. Can't be sold as packages. Currently it's 34k. Absolute joke.
2. At least half of the AFL and MCC reserve need to go to club supporters (The MCC needs to ask people to nominate a club of support, just as the AFL does). If the reserve can't fulfil from within (club-support), those bays get re-allocated to the club ballot. If it's more than 50%, then club supporters get those bays.
3. The remaining AFL and MCC reserve seats go to corporate entitlements (ie toyota) and neutrals with access.

 

[The_Wookie]

AFL members are club members. I also pay extra to the cats for reserved seats down at KP.

IMO, two things would fix the issue right away:

1. All 55k seats in the public reserve have to go in the ballot. Can't be sold as packages. Currently it's 34k. Absolute joke.
2. At least half of the AFL and MCC reserve need to go to club supporters (The MCC needs to ask people to nominate a club of support, just as the AFL does). If the reserve can't fulfil from within (club-support), those bays get re-allocated to the club ballot. If it's more than 50%, then club supporters get those bays.
3. The remaining AFL and MCC reserve seats go to corporate entitlements (ie toyota) and neutrals with access.

Club support is a thing in the MCC now.

 

[JohnZ]

Club support is a thing in the MCC now.

Good to hear, that's certainly new. AFL really should be making sure that club supporters get first dibs on tickets.

 

[Recon_29]

Club support is a thing in the MCC now.

I am an MCC member and this is the first I have heard of it. However I dont attend Grand Finals if my team isnt playing, so i may have overlooked. How are they doing this?

 

[magic_johnson!]

I am an MCC member and this is the first I have heard of it. However I dont attend Grand Finals if my team isnt playing, so i may have overlooked. How are they doing this?

I don’t think it helps or hinders gf ticket opportunity - my understanding is you just have the opportunity to purchase cheap low category club memberships)

 

[Recon_29]

I don’t think it helps or hinders gf ticket opportunity - my understanding is you just have the opportunity to purchase cheap low category club memberships)

Yeah the membership add on has been around for years now. I was more curious if they had brought something in for the grand final.

 

[Rouel_14]

AFL members are club members. I also pay extra to the cats for reserved seats down at KP.

IMO, two things would fix the issue right away:

1. All 55k seats in the public reserve have to go in the ballot. Can't be sold as packages. Currently it's 34k. Absolute joke.
2. At least half of the AFL and MCC reserve need to go to club supporters (The MCC needs to ask people to nominate a club of support, just as the AFL does). If the reserve can't fulfil from within (club-support), those bays get re-allocated to the club ballot. If it's more than 50%, then club supporters get those bays.
3. The remaining AFL and MCC reserve seats go to corporate entitlements (ie toyota) and neutrals with access.

I agree.

Just not sure why someone would actively take a seat off someone as a neutral when there are members that may have waited 37 years to see a GF.

Mind boggling selfishness.





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[Rob]

Club support is a thing in the MCC now.

It's a moot point anyway because the MCC are not giving up their rights to fill the members reserve with their members. The AFL needed to demand a clean stadium as part of the contract, and they didn't.

 

[Aussie in exile]

It's a moot point anyway because the MCC are not giving up their rights to fill the members reserve with their members. The AFL needed to demand a clean stadium as part of the contract, and they didn't.

They are not really in a position to demand a clean stadium as the MCC hold all the aces, but they could have perhaps come up with more money to demand a clean stadium

 

[Rob]

They are not really in a position to demand a clean stadium as the MCC hold all the aces, but they could have perhaps come up with more money to demand a clean stadium

They were when the recent contract was renegotiated, or at least they could have been. A new stadium was being built in Perth that was potentially capable of holding 70,000, the AFL could have started negotiations with the SA government about holding the game at an expanded Adelaide Oval, and the NSW government were going stadium crazy a few years ago.

Yet the AFL chose to keep it all in house and held exclusive negotiations in secret. Is it really any surprise the fans are the ones that got screwed?

 

[Aussie in exile]

They were when the recent contract was renegotiated, or at least they could have been. A new stadium was being built in Perth that was potentially capable of holding 70,000, the AFL could have started negotiations with the SA government about holding the game at an expanded Adelaide Oval, and the NSW government were going stadium crazy a few years ago.

Yet the AFL chose to keep it all in house and held exclusive negotiations in secret. Is it really any surprise the fans are the ones that got screwed?

They were when the recent contract was renegotiated, or at least they could have been. A new stadium was being built in Perth that was potentially capable of holding 70,000, the AFL could have started negotiations with the SA government about holding the game at an expanded Adelaide Oval, and the NSW government were going stadium crazy a few years ago.

Yet the AFL chose to keep it all in house and held exclusive negotiations in secret. Is it really any surprise the fans are the ones that got screwed?

Perhaps the AFL didn't want to part with the extra money that would be required. Just saying

 

[RedV3x]

Perhaps the AFL didn't want to part with the extra money that would be required. Just saying

It's not money, but simply government pressure.

The government said they would build a railway to Waverley but didn't.
When commonsense prevailed and it was agreed to share the MCC - it should have been shared completely independently but wasn't.
The same sort of politics torpedoed Australian Football in Adelaide, Perth and Sydney.

 

[Rob]

Perhaps the AFL didn't want to part with the extra money that would be required. Just saying

What extra money? If the AFL had of opened it up then they would have had state governments not only provided them with a clean stadium, but given them tens of millions of dollars to do so. If the MCC couldn't provide the league with a clean stadium, then they should have been advised that the contract would not be extended.

 

[Aussie in exile]

What extra money? If the AFL had of opened it up then they would have had state governments not only provided them with a clean stadium, but given them tens of millions of dollars to do so. If the MCC couldn't provide the league with a clean stadium, then they should have been advised that the contract would not be extended.

In life to get more favourable outcomes to have to part with money.
If the AFL didn't have extra money to get a clean stadium they won't get one. Sa la vie. You don't get something for nothing in life generally.

 

[Rob]

In life to get more favourable outcomes to have to part with money.
If the AFL didn't have extra money to get a clean stadium they won't get one. Sa la vie. You don't get something for nothing in life generally.

Lol, when you don't open something up to competition you really expect to get a good deal? The MCC had the AFL over a barrel, and it was all the AFL's doing.

 

[weewilly]

It's not money, but simply government pressure.

The government said they would build a railway to Waverley but didn't.
When commonsense prevailed and it was agreed to share the MCC - it should have been shared completely independently but wasn't.
The same sort of politics torpedoed Australian Football in Adelaide, Perth and Sydney.

People need to be reminded the the MCC is a TENANT same as the AFL but the MCC are ground managers of the MCG and that is the biggest problem the AFL have in trying to get a better deal who lets face it there would be NO MCG as we know it today if there was no footy played there.

The Melbourne Cricket Ground Trust is who actually control the stadium supposedly on behalf of the people of Victoria who actually own the MCG and the land it is built on!

 

[RedV3x]

there would be NO MCG as we know it today if there was no footy played there.

The MCG is what it is because football was and still is played there.
The MCG is what it is because of the 1954 Olympics.
The MCG is what it is because football abandonned the grand plan for Waverley (much grander than the MCG ever was).
The MCG is what it is because the government reneged on it's plan to build a railway line to Waverley.
The WACA is what it is - a joke, because it didn't join with football.
Subiaco was planned to be another Waverley with a three tier stand encircling the oval.
A.O. is what it is because it did join with football and made the development of Football Park unnecessary.
The SCG is what it is because it did join with football and made a better deal than Homebush.

 

[MattF185]

The MCG is what it is because football was and still is played there.
The MCG is what it is because of the 1954 Olympics.
The MCG is what it is because football abandonned the grand plan for Waverley (much grander than the MCG ever was).
The MCG is what it is because the government reneged on it's plan to build a railway line to Waverley.
The WACA is what it is - a joke, because it didn't join with football.
Subiaco was planned to be another Waverley with a three tier stand encircling the oval.
A.O. is what it is because it did join with football and made the development of Football Park unnecessary.
The SCG is what it is because it did join with football and made a better deal than Homebush.

So, moral of the story is - join with AFL, because it’s clearly the greatest sporting code in Aus.

 

[kranger]

6,552 at Optus yesterday for Eagles vs Dockers AFLW.

 

[weewilly]

6,552 at Optus yesterday for Eagles vs Dockers AFLW.

I thought they might have done better seeing it was a derby and a public holiday!

 

[kranger]

Well AFLW seems to have lost a bit of fascination.

Freo home crowds are averaging 1,000. This is down from 5,000 a couple of seasons ago.

Eagles home crowds before the derby was averaging 1,650.

 

[Rob]

I thought they might have done better seeing it was a derby and a public holiday!

Nah, I thought it was a good crowd. Freo's AFLW crowds have collapsed this season and the Eagles have never pulled a crowd.

It didn't look great on TV though given the ground was 90% empty.

 

[The_Wookie]

Well AFLW seems to have lost a bit of fascination.

Freo home crowds are averaging 1,000. This is down from 5,000 a couple of seasons ago.

Eagles home crowds before the derby was averaging 1,650.

And this is year 1 of a full 18 team comp. Crowd average is heading to W-league levels if they arent careful - and will get worse if they go for a full season clash with the mens.

 

[Bjo187]

As expected the W going to 18 teams has been a disaster. Both financially and for interest in the competition (due to an even lower standard).