List Mgmt. 2022 Draft Thread - Part I

[George]

Sticking this at the top of each page. If it gets annoying, let me know and I can just put it in the original post of the thread. Credit to Lore

 

[CaptainRisky]

The kid’s being realistic, the draft is a lottery whereby he could go to any of a number of clubs!

Yes i know that but normally if a kid has been training at a club and is a NGA he would say something about his time at the saints like our other two lads did

 

[Sun Ra]

Yes i know that but normally if a kid has been training at a club and is a NGA he would say something about his time at the saints like our other two lads did

Maybe he's trying to fly under the radar ?

 

[stavro#4]

Even with the recent talk of the hawks flying him out and a bunch of interviews?

I'm hopeful they're making a big scene on Phillipou to get tsatas through but I really could see them taking CMAC or Phillipou if they can't get tsatas.

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I think you are putting in so much stock into a situation that won’t occur.

If the Eagles want Gibney. They will get him. I find it near impossible to imagine a situation where Gibney is on the board and the eagles pass over him having traded down from have access to 1 of the 4 elite rated kids that are seperate from the next crop down.

 

[stavro#4]

The other name Twomey linked us too was Oliver Hollands.

But I can’t see us grabbing him above the current ones we are linked too and I include Gibney in that group

 

[CursingFijian]

I think you are putting in so much stock into a situation that won’t occur.

If the Eagles want Gibney. They will get him. I find it near impossible to imagine a situation where Gibney is on the board and the eagles pass over him having traded down from have access to 1 of the 4 elite rated kids that are seperate from the next crop down.

Solid point.

 

[BrutThough]

Interesting article about McKenzie on the Fox website , the kid doesn't even mention any link to St Kilda , in any shape or form.
It didn't sound like he was keen to get to us , maybe i missed something as i remember Windy and Owens talking about how they trained with the Saints and hoped they got picked up by them

I wouldn't read anything into that. McKenzie knows he is in the open pool and could end up anywhere.

Windy and Owens knew something unexpected would have to happen for them to go before a bid and that we were going to match any bid that did come

 

[hangdog]

I think you are putting in so much stock into a situation that won’t occur.

If the Eagles want Gibney. They will get him. I find it near impossible to imagine a situation where Gibney is on the board and the eagles pass over him having traded down from have access to 1 of the 4 elite rated kids that are seperate from the next crop down.

AFL teams “clambering” for draft prospect who “blitzed” the combine

“My mail is there is a whisper around that even West Coast are potentially exploring an option of pushing a little bit higher.”

www.sen.com.au

Interesting... Although probably baseless and written for the sake of writing... But interesting...

 

[saintmike65]

Yes i know that but normally if a kid has been training at a club and is a NGA he would say something about his time at the saints like our other two lads did

I’m sure he’d be wrapped to get to us..just down the road from his parents place!

 

[Mighty_sainter]

The other name Twomey linked us too was Oliver Hollands.

But I can’t see us grabbing him above the current ones we are linked too and I include Gibney in that group

I’ve heard we are pretty keen on him

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

Yep, the “injury is a ruse” story is an urban myth.

We all joked about it so much we believed it

 

[Ads734]

I have some concerns over Hewit. Mainly his ability to move in and out of stoppages. Modern midfielders must have in some way or another an ability to exit a stoppage. Genereally players either have a burst of speed, ie Danger, Shuey or they have an ability to work through traffic, ie Clark, Mundy, Pendlebury etc. Some players have the great strength and can break thrugh tackles with their size, ie Cripps/Oliver and the rest tend to have a combo. I worry that Hewit may end up in the Aiden Bonar

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category. He often just kind of stands still during congestion as oppose to moving his legs and it is not something that is easy to fix.

 

[FQFjt]

AFL teams “clambering” for draft prospect who “blitzed” the combine

“My mail is there is a whisper around that even West Coast are potentially exploring an option of pushing a little bit higher.”

www.sen.com.au

Interesting... Although probably baseless and written for the sake of writing... But interesting...

This seems out of the blue?

All the talk to date has been that Ginbey is slightly below the other mids in the 4-10 range but that West Coast would pick him as the safe local option. I suppose this explains why Gold Coast seems to be closely linked to him too, which I could never understand given their problems with player retention.

 

[sammm]

Interesting article about McKenzie on the Fox website , the kid doesn't even mention any link to St Kilda , in any shape or form.
It didn't sound like he was keen to get to us , maybe i missed something as i remember Windy and Owens talking about how they trained with the Saints and hoped they got picked up by them

Windy and Owens probably talked about us because it was a very good chance we could pick them up as long as they made the cut off. McKenzie is different, just another player

 

[stavro#4]

 

[SaintsSeptember]

The other name Twomey linked us too was Oliver Hollands.

But I can’t see us grabbing him above the current ones we are linked too and I include Gibney in that group

They'd want to be bloody sure of themselves if they did.

 

[BrutThough]

They'd want to be bloody sure of themselves if they did.

I could see him being our mid option if McKenzie and Phillipou are off the board.

 

[The_Snake26]

Yes i know that but normally if a kid has been training at a club and is a NGA he would say something about his time at the saints like our other two lads did

You’re reading too much into it. Journos use about 10% of actual quotes. There’s nothing to suggest he didn’t say anything, just because it’s not written.

 

[CaptainRisky]

You’re reading too much into it. Journos use about 10% of actual quotes. There’s nothing to suggest he didn’t say anything, just because it’s not written.

I'm not really worried about it , just thought something may have been mentioned . I'm not fussed who we draft because can go any club

 

[stavro#4]

Interesting…

It means Essendon has also put considerable work into athletic midfielder Phillipou who is considered to have significant upside and goal scoring ability, along with Western Australian Ginbey.

At pick six, Hawthorn is also strongly considering Ginbey, while 182cm Queenscliff ballwinner Jhye Clark is a leading target for Geelong at pick seven.

St Kilda, which has pick nine, is weighing up Ginbey (if he slides past West Coast at pick eight) and 189cm Cam McKenzie, and is set to offer Liam ex-Blue Stocker a trial to train with the club after the national draft.

 

[Mowman]

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Essendon will attempt to bolster the size and strength of its midfield brigade with its first pick in Monday’s national draft.
The Bombers have pick four and are considering a number of options from a bunch of taller midfielders including Mattaes Phillipou (190cm), Reuben Ginbey (189cm) and Elijah Tsatas (186cm) to help beef-up their centre clearance arsenal under new coach Brad Scott.
The Bombers have one of the shortest midfield groups in the competition with Dylan Shiel

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(182cm), Zach Merrett (179cm), Darcy Parish

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(180cm) and Jye Caldwell

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(183cm) attending the most centre bounces for the club last season.
It leaves the Bombers shorter than each of last year’s top-four teams, although Essendon tried to address the issue, in part, grabbing 192cm fringe onballer Will Setterfield

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, from Carlton, as part of a late pick swap in the trade period.
Setterfield is eyeing an onball berth from Round 1 next season in a bid to sharpen the Bombers’ clearance work after finishing second-last for clearances and contested possessions in 2022.
Based on their top-four centre bounce players, Essendon has an 181cm height average in the engine room, compared to top-four combatants Geelong (185cm), Sydney Swans (184cm), Collingwood (188cm) and Brisbane (183cm).

Mattaes Phillipou celebrates a goal. Picture: Getty Images

Zach Merrett is part of Essendon’s smaller midfield mix. Picture: Daniel Pockett/Getty Images
It is why rivals are expecting Essendon to target some midfield height to help give the club’s centre clearance unit an extra dimension after 18 years without a finals win.
Tsatas has long been considered a top-five talent for his brilliant playmaking and burst out of the middle, however clubs have questioned his ability to tackle and defend as part of an all-round midfield game.
It means Essendon has also put considerable work into athletic midfielder Phillipou who is considered to have significant upside and goal scoring ability, along with Western Australian Ginbey.

At pick six, Hawthorn is also strongly considering Ginbey, while 182cm Queenscliff ballwinner Jhye Clark is a leading target for Geelong at pick seven.
St Kilda, which has pick nine, is weighing up Ginbey (if he slides past West Coast at pick eight) and 189cm Cam McKenzie, and is set to offer Liam ex-Blue Stocker a trial to train with the club after the national draft.
Stocker was delisted by Carlton after 28 games in four years in navy blue and is eager to re-ignite his AFL career at a new club.
News Corp revealed earlier this month Greater Western Sydney is open to trading pick 19 in this year’s draft for a future first-round selection as it weighs up offers from rivals.
The Giants will likely assess offers on the night after using picks 1, 15 and 18 as part of a bumper draft hand.
Collingwood, at pick 16, has been linked to a move on hard-working Sandringham midfielder-forward Charlie Clarke.
Clarke has surged up draft boards across the country this season with his instinctive goal kicking and clever link-up play up the ground.

Reuben Ginbey could go as high as pick five. Picture: Dylan Burns/AFL Photos via Getty Images

Clubs urged to consider Bombers NGA​

— Chris Cavanagh
Clubs have been urged to consider a “tremendous talent” who is being tipped to slide far enough down the draft order next week to be picked up by Essendon for a steal.
Bombers Next Generation Academy member Anthony Munkara played only limited football this year, having returned home to the Tiwi Islands mid-season due to multiple family tragedies.
However, the 188cm high-flying forward excited recruiters in the games he did play in the first half of the year.
Munkara kicked 9.6 in a school match for Westminster College last year and caught the eye while playing for Australia’s under-18 team against Collingwood’s VFL side in May.
“You can clearly see he’s got some tremendous talent,” NAB AFL Academy coach Tarkyn Lockyer said.
“In his AFL Academy game, he performed really well. To do that against a quality opposition in Collingwood’s VFL side speaks volumes. He’s exciting and when he gets the ball in his hands he’s got so many tricks and his skills are electrifying. I’m sure Essendon would be pretty keen for him to slide through the draft a little bit and hopefully take him as an NGA player. He’s certainly got an enormous amount of potential.”

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Essendon would be able to match a bid on Munkara if he slides beyond pick 40.

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[bird_man]

Not overly keen on Ginbey to be honest

 

[stavro#4]

Not overly keen on Ginbey to be honest

You would imagine he is the last option.

Tsatas Phillipou and Mackenzie would all have to be off the board at that point.

 

[bird_man]

You would imagine he is the last option.

Tsatas Phillipou and Mackenzie would all have to be off the board at that point.

I'd prefer Busslinger to be honest

 

[FrogDude]

I hope we pass on Ginbey, looks solid but he's very big and it could be a case of big body against kids. Plus we just got Windy and Owens last year as big body inside mids. Would rather take Busslinger, Hewitt or Hollands if our top options are gone.

 

[MOLTEN GANGLANDS]

I'd prefer Busslinger to be honest

you're an honest man