List Mgmt. 2022 List Management and trading thread

[Scorpus]

I saw this format on the West Coast board and thought it might help understand our current list position

 

[maxlilly]

Agreed. The honeymoon is well and truly over - we need to start placing some tangible expecations on the playing and coaching group.

I'm still waiting for the leadership group to actually stand up consistently each week.
That whole bunch were embarrassing this year

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

The question is ....why would Hunter Clark be looking for a trade ? ....and why hasn't St Kilda locked him away, past 2023

Maybe he thinks st kilda suck, and wants out

 

[Danger in Texas]

Maybe he thinks st kilda suck, and wants out

Also that he seems to be stagnating, and he thinks he can unlock his potential more at another club

Nothing confirmed at all at this point though, all just whispers. My bet is he stays

 

[Mutineer]

Maybe he thinks st kilda suck, and wants out

So fiction becomes fact?

AFL paid nuffies pull a name out of thin air toss it around and it becomes a thing?

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

So fiction becomes fact?

AFL paid nuffies pull a name out of thin air toss it around and it becomes a thing?

calm down, i said maybe

 

[WaynesWorld19]

One of those guys can knock Keays back down to the SANFL..

Simply won't happen .....Keays is better than what you think ....kicking doesn't define his game, effort & grunt do ....and you need those types in Finals

Mind you, you can only have a couple of poor kicks in the 22 .....another way of putting it, Sholl can't get a game & he's one of our best kicks

 

[WaynesWorld19]

So fiction becomes fact?

AFL paid nuffies pull a name out of thin air toss it around and it becomes a thing?

I highly doubt it .....there's obviously some smoke down Moorabbin way

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Maybe he thinks st kilda suck, and wants out

OR ....maybe the Club is low balling Hunter Clark on a new Contract ......similar to Blake Acres

 

[Mutineer]

I highly doubt it .....there's obviously some smoke down Moorabbin way

Nah just the usual AFL suspects looking for clicks and talk....it worked for you.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Nah just the usual AFL suspects looking for clicks and talk....it worked for you.

Yeah .....but I'm not a fan of Hunter Clark ....I'm not sure if you've picked up on that fact

 

[Thetrader15]

They're still young and inexperienced .....still need to have some experience in the side ...albeit mental & physical

So is what Clarko proposing at NORTH wrong ? .....adding another 2-3 experienced players ....when 2 years ago NORTH's strategy was to cut super deep and play just kids

The thing with Turner though is that while he's older, he's only just coming up to 100 SANFL games himself, so it's not like we are recruiting James Gowans.

I understand the thinking, but I'd have though that Freeman could offer the same 'experienced body' and at least had some AFL attributes we needed in terms of his speed.

Personally, I'd have gone for someone like Seb Ross or Sam Menegola last year as a trade if that was the direction we wanted to go. Both reportedly on the trade market, would offer 'experience' and not cost a lot.

 

[Thetrader15]

LOL

AFL media tossing some names around and you take it as Hunter Clark looking for a trade....

I read the Duursma rumour too.

 

[crow2crow]

The thing with Turner though is that while he's older, he's only just coming up to 100 SANFL games himself, so it's not like we are recruiting James Gowans.

I understand the thinking, but I'd have though that Freeman could offer the same 'experienced body' and at least had some AFL attributes we needed in terms of his speed.

Personally, I'd have gone for someone like Seb Ross or Sam Menegola last year as a trade if that was the direction we wanted to go. Both reportedly on the trade market, would offer 'experience' and not cost a lot.

Freeman's head was not in being in adelaide IMO and did it out of desperation - realised and pulled the pin

 

[Mutineer]

I read the Duursma rumour too.

At least he's got the go home factor to highlight for them..

 

[Mutineer]

Freeman's head was not in being in adelaide IMO and did it out of desperation - realised and pulled the pin

You think so?
I think he pulled the pin because I'd guess we told him he wasn't on our MSD radar?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I understand the thinking, but I'd have though that Freeman could offer the same 'experienced body' and at least had some AFL attributes we needed in terms of his speed.

Personally, I'd have gone for someone like Seb Ross or Sam Menegola last year as a trade if that was the direction we wanted to go. Both reportedly on the trade market, would offer 'experience' and not cost a lot

I think most Club's Freeman has trialled at, have overlooked him now .....yes, what you're suggesting is viable ...maybe the issue was having to use a main list spot to attract one of Ross / Menegola .....Turner, as someone pointed out, if he gets a Contract, will in all probability be a Rookie spot

Ross / Menegola weren't transferring states for a 1 year Contract .....if they were in fact prepared to re-locate

 

[Crows I Am]

Don't want to give away too much 2023 draft capital when we will likely have a fair turnover of players.

Sloane, Seedsman, Brown and potentially Tex retiring.
McPherson, McAsey and Crouch delisted.
Doedee possibly leaving as a FA.
Worrell, Sholl and Strachan possibly looking for more gametime.

We don't want to be heading into that draft with 8-9 list spots free and only a small draft hand.

We really should be moving several of these guys on now.

If Doedee does decide to leave then I can't see Worrell also leaving for more game time, as he would be easily starting 22 without Doedee there. I can see them both playing a lot of games next year anyway.

We also have a few kids in the SANFL who should be pushing hard to force their way into the starting 22 next year. Taylor, Nankervis, Newchurch, Cook should all be around the mark by the end of next year. So losing most of the guys you listed wont have a massive impact on our rebuild I don't think.

 

[LoBu]

4 of our wins came from the bottom 2 teams.

As will 4 next year.

 

[crow2crow]

You think so?
I think he pulled the pin because I'd guess we told him he wasn't on our MSD radar?

I agree with that too but what I mean is it was only in desperation to cling onto hope of being on afl list that he came to adelaide anyway. as soon as that looked remote all the talk of just "wanting to help a young list" dissipated very quickly.

 

[Vader]

If Doedee does decide to leave then I can't see Worrell also leaving for more game time, as he would be easily starting 22 without Doedee there. I can see them both playing a lot of games next year anyway.

We also have a few kids in the SANFL who should be pushing hard to force their way into the starting 22 next year. Taylor, Nankervis, Newchurch, Cook should all be around the mark by the end of next year. So losing most of the guys you listed wont have a massive impact on our rebuild I don't think.

The point wasn't the impact that their departures would have on our rebuild - it was our lack of 2023 draft resources for filling the list vacancies created by their departures.

 

[FullyBigKPro]

A lot of arrogance on this thread... People kindly asking for peoples opinions and getting ghosted.

 

[spenze]

I highly doubt it .....there's obviously some smoke down Moorabbin way

Set another dwarf on fire?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

The question is ....why would Hunter Clark be looking for a trade ? ....and why hasn't St Kilda locked him away, past 2023

Not unusual for players contracted for 2023 yet to be looking for a new deal... often waiting to during their final season of the contract.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

My argument is Hunter Clark is not a star player many believe he is .....clubs don't let star players go into their final contract year, without attempting to lock em in

He was a quality player before he got injured.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

OR ....maybe the Club is low balling Hunter Clark on a new Contract ......similar to Blake Acres

Who knows, it’s easy to manipulate the narrative suit ones own agenda