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meehhh..... the AFL Grand Final isn't even number 1 on that list. And that was the most impossible thing to get a ticket for there.
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meehhh..... the AFL Grand Final isn't even number 1 on that list. And that was the most impossible thing to get a ticket for there.
- Jul 5, 2012
- 30,541
- 52,277
- AFL Club
- Sydney
- Other Teams
- Kidding, right?
League is the only one I can stand, personally.
According to Hunter Fujak’s book “Code Wars” there was a time not too long ago when Union was seriously close to being the second biggest code in Australia.
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- May 13, 2012
- 15,812
- 5,972
- AFL Club
- GWS
- Other Teams
- Brumbies, Socceroos
There was certainly a time when union was doing better, but I reckon Fujak is wrong in that assertion.
In fact, a few of the observations he makes are a little bit iffy.
Well the AFL GF was limited to the normal capacity of 61,266.
The wallabies game with the record attendance had a greater capacity with some of the 5,000 temporary additional seats set up for the rectangle format.
But not the government it pays for these events.
Tourists traditionally don't spend a lot of money in Perth and the government only gets part of the GST back so the overall economics don't add up
but yes, it sounds nice and it would be nice if we didn'y have to pay for it.
The airlines probably appreciate it too, but that doesn't help W.A.
Yes, that would be prior to 1908.
- Jul 5, 2012
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- Sydney
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Surprisingly, it was within our lifetimes.
There is a queue for many sporting events - you'd hope OUR money would be well spent.
I look at the F1 event which is renewed by both sides of politics, & who when in opposition, CRITICISE.
'Netball reaffirmed its place as a “tier one sport” with the Suncorp Super Netball grand final boasting record crowd and audience viewing numbers to cap a stunning debut season on Fox Sports.
The West Coast Fever’s dominant 70-59 victory over minor premiers Melbourne Vixens had an average of 170,000 viewers last Sunday with 67 per cent of the audience attributed to streaming via Kayo Freebies.'
“To help grow audiences right around Australia, we have brought Netball to the masses via Kayo Freebies every Sunday and netball has benefited from the growth of Kayo over the past six months - particularly throughout the finals which is a strong indicator for the future.”
The West Coast Fever’s dominant 70-59 victory over minor premiers Melbourne Vixens had an average of 170,000 viewers last Sunday with 67 per cent of the audience attributed to streaming via Kayo Freebies.'
“To help grow audiences right around Australia, we have brought Netball to the masses via Kayo Freebies every Sunday and netball has benefited from the growth of Kayo over the past six months - particularly throughout the finals which is a strong indicator for the future.”
Not surprisingly, it didn't occur within our lifetimes.
- May 13, 2012
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Rugby did go through a bit of a purple patch from around 1991 (Wallabies won the world cup) to around 2006.
In that period, they became fully professional, Super Rugby started and for a good decade got decent attendances and ratings on Fox, especially for the Australian teams. Of course, the top three Australian teams had periods of success around this time as well, that helped.
Once they started mucking around with the formula, expanding, more games in far flung places, coinciding with a poor Wallabies team, Rugby did take a bit of a nose dive, and will probably never recover now.
In that period, they became fully professional, Super Rugby started and for a good decade got decent attendances and ratings on Fox, especially for the Australian teams. Of course, the top three Australian teams had periods of success around this time as well, that helped.
Once they started mucking around with the formula, expanding, more games in far flung places, coinciding with a poor Wallabies team, Rugby did take a bit of a nose dive, and will probably never recover now.
- Jul 5, 2012
- 30,541
- 52,277
- AFL Club
- Sydney
- Other Teams
- Kidding, right?
That’s the era Hunter Fujak was talking about, his figures showed it was definitely on the cusp of a big increase in market share, and his conclusions are pretty much the same as yours.
Except rugby was only number two in NSW to the other rugby and now it's not even that.
Even that position was arguable because club rugby was only slightly better attended than the SFL.
- Jul 5, 2012
- 30,541
- 52,277
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- Sydney
- Other Teams
- Kidding, right?
Well his figures told a very different story but I’m out of town right now so you’ll have to wait with bated breath till I can pull his book off the shelf and reveal all.
They never really could have said that it came close to rugby league though, even if it had a larger following outside NSW and Queensland (and still probably does).
Well, what figures - crowd attendance, average crowd attendance, participation, professionalism ?
NSW participation - soccer.......rugby league..rugby union.Australian Football.
NSW attendance - rugby league...Australian Football....rugby union.
NSW average attendances - Australian Football.... rugby league...rugby union.soccer
NSW media attention - rugby league..................rugby union....Australian Football.soccer.
Here is the probably rugby's most famous ground. See the tiny grandstand and limited seating.
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- Jul 5, 2012
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- Sydney
- Other Teams
- Kidding, right?
I told you, you're just going to have to wait. Patience, my son.Well, what figures - crowd attendance, average crowd attendance, participation, professionalism ?
NSW participation - soccer.......rugby league..rugby union.Australian Football.
NSW attendance - rugby league...Australian Football....rugby union.
NSW average attendances - Australian Football.... rugby league...rugby union.soccer
NSW media attention - rugby league..................rugby union....Australian Football.soccer.
Here is the probably rugby's most famous ground. See the tiny grandstand and limited seating.
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If you look at the crowd in Lions tours, Australian supporters are far outnumbered by lions supporters - for international tourism it's one of the biggest drawing events, way more than even Ashes tours.
If Rugby Australia are smart they should schedule the Melbourne match at the MCG rather than Marvel for the 2025 tour as they'd have no trouble selling it out.
That's Coogee Oval isn't it? I'd say it's more well known as a cricket ground (home of Randwick Petersham) than RugbyWell, what figures - crowd attendance, average crowd attendance, participation, professionalism ?
NSW participation - soccer.......rugby league..rugby union.Australian Football.
NSW attendance - rugby league...Australian Football....rugby union.
NSW average attendances - Australian Football.... rugby league...rugby union.soccer
NSW media attention - rugby league..................rugby union....Australian Football.soccer.
Here is the probably rugby's most famous ground. See the tiny grandstand and limited seating.
Never heard of Randwick Petersham.
One of the problems Rugby Union faces in a nutshell:
'Given the cold shoulder by Brad Thorn at the Queensland Reds, Lukhan Salakaia-Loto has been called into the Wallabies from club rugby for their third Test decider against England.'
'While he was a surprise omission from last year’s Spring Tour after leaving the camp for the birth for his first child, Salakaia-Loto fell out of favour at the Reds after signing with Saints earlier in the year.'
'He has since being playing for Souths in Brisbane’s club rugby competition.'
At the same time RA is busy shooting itself in the foot:
'... the decision not to do any media opportunities was a baffling one ahead of the series decider at the SCG, particularly with the Test not yet sold out and the match shaping as one of the biggest in Australian rugby in years.
A Wallabies spokesperson said they had planned to do one, but after English Premiership side Aston Villa, who are staying at the same hotel on the Gold Coast, pulled out of a combined press opportunity they too pulled the pin.
Regardless, with the code battling for media attention and State of Origin to dominate headlines ahead of Wednesday’s series decider, it was an odd look.'
'Given the cold shoulder by Brad Thorn at the Queensland Reds, Lukhan Salakaia-Loto has been called into the Wallabies from club rugby for their third Test decider against England.'
'While he was a surprise omission from last year’s Spring Tour after leaving the camp for the birth for his first child, Salakaia-Loto fell out of favour at the Reds after signing with Saints earlier in the year.'
'He has since being playing for Souths in Brisbane’s club rugby competition.'
At the same time RA is busy shooting itself in the foot:
'... the decision not to do any media opportunities was a baffling one ahead of the series decider at the SCG, particularly with the Test not yet sold out and the match shaping as one of the biggest in Australian rugby in years.
A Wallabies spokesperson said they had planned to do one, but after English Premiership side Aston Villa, who are staying at the same hotel on the Gold Coast, pulled out of a combined press opportunity they too pulled the pin.
Regardless, with the code battling for media attention and State of Origin to dominate headlines ahead of Wednesday’s series decider, it was an odd look.'
No surprise.
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