Autopsy 2022 Rd 6 - Never in it. Blues disappoint in the West.

[katmanblue]

2015 draft was very good though

Yeah. How's 2017 looking?

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[Ald Gardiner]

I think our wingers need to be ballistic runners, but also tough, smart and selfless.

The only candidates that currently fit that exact bill are Walsh and Cerra, but then we're robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Docherty might be an option, but please don't suggest Lob. He doesn't apply anywhere near enough pressure when he doesn't have the ball.

I'd try Williamson there. Lacking a little in smarts, and disposal efficiency, but has the rest covered

Yep could do worse than Willo there

 

[Accidental genius]

Anyone got a link to Voss presser?

Couldn’t find it on Kayo.

 

[Gethelred]

Against lesser experienced Norf, Mots must be a serious chance next week

No Cunnington or Anderson, though Goldstein will absolutely murder us.

Figures that, the second Pitto goes down, we're playing against all the top rucks in the comp. I'd say we need to make sure we're looking to shark their taps, but to this point this year we've not set up to do so at any point.

 

[Gethelred]

Anyone got a link to Voss presser?

Couldn’t find it on Kayo.

AFL R6 | Voss post-match

Michael Voss speaks to the media following the Round 6 match against Fremantle.

www.carltonfc.com.au

 

[katmanblue]

If Pitto is out for an extended period of time it might actually help TDKs development.He needs to impose himself.


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I think he'll be a bit overwhelmed in 2022, but it will make him a beast 2023.

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[ferrisb]

When Cuningham returns does he have the endurance for playing wing?

Cuningham is useless unless he's within 2m of the ball.

Within 2m, he's a gun.

Would get lost on a wing IMO.

 

[Thrawn]

I would put my remaining $12.50 that it's a 10 week PCL. The slow mo shows the tibia move about 4cm posteriorly when it gets smashed in to.

Darcy clearly had eyes on the player to hurt it.

Hate to say it but they need to get rid of the the knee contact. Should just make the ruckman circle tiny so it's a standing jump only. Bang. There goes knee injuries.

Unfortunately we go from top 8 team to bottom 8 team with him out.

It reminded me of Round 20, 2000 when Jason Johnson crashed into Kouta's knee.

 

[carlton_99]

Fyfe
Young
Chapman
Tucker

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Tucker played

 

[Choc Milk]

Whoever is in charge should ban the white strip! White is the colour of surrender.

 

[Beyond Blue]

Report noted “middle of the season”, whatever it will thankfully be sooner than 12 weeks

I’ve also factored in at least 3 games in the 2s to get form and accustomed to the game plan given the length of his absence and changes in personnel during that time.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

We had a terrible bottom 6-8 tonight. Setters too slow and zero presence. Fisher can’t stick a tackle. Don’t see what the coaches see in Boyd, looks a trier but that’s about it. Parks and Young get outmarked too easily (although Young did some good things). Newnes had a mare. Small forwards had little impact. Our two talls were mitigated when the umpires decided blocking and holding was allowed.

Bring in Stocker, Carroll, Kemp next week and hopefully some others returning from injuries.

Scoreboard did flatter Freo in the end but we are far away from being a good side. As usual relying on Cripps to drag us over the line, at least he had some support today with Cerra and Hewett. The next three weeks Roos, Crows and GWS are crucial.

yeah, they walked through our 'tackles' time and time again....

 

[rgauci]

Chin up baggers.

Pittonet injury shifted the game. Darcy man handled TDK, but that kid can run, jump, decent skills, still a work in progress. Few preseasons and he’ll be a key component of your team. If Injuries were reversed (Darcy 1st quarter and Pittonet 4th quarter) the result would likely have gone your way.

Saad is amazing, at times he was defending 2 small forwards who streamed forward and he was intense in his run and chase. Even his contest was high end, took some decent marks.

The exact opposite is Williams. No run, no spread, no intensity, coughed it up occasionally. I’d love to see his GPS numbers, I think they’d be poor. We had a similar player in Wilson who now finds himself at Peel with the recruitment of Jordan Clark

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Jordan Clark

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

4.3

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.5

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.2

3star

K

10.4

4star

HB

1.8

2star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.4

4star

.

If you look at our time on ground stats. Our mids are all around the 75% mark, our HBF spend near on 100% game time, and they are super fit. As are our half-forwards.

You need a better 2nd tall and 3rd tall defender. Lewis Young

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Lewis Young

Age

26

Ht

202cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.6

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

197.9

3star

D

4.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

1.0

1star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

26.0

1star

D

14.4

4star

K

8.2

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

181.6

3star

is average, he looked much better when he was 2nd ruck / forward. McGovern should help.

Cripps is a monster, very hard to bring down. The midfield balance is off, not enough outside runners, wings are shoe-horned inside mids and look just that. I’m not sure who you have in the reserves.

Fortunately outside runners only take 1-2 seasons to hit their straps or are easily traded for; Brandon Walker 2nd year player, Michael Frederick 3rd year player, Blake Acres

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Blake Acres

Age

30

Ht

193cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

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D

17.5

4star

K

8.9

3star

HB

8.6

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

3.2

5star

CL

1.9

4star

D

12.7

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

7.7

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.0

3star

D

8.2

2star

K

3.8

2star

HB

4.4

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

2.4

4star

CL

1.8

4star

steak knives in a trade, Nathan O’Driscoll 2nd year player. Jordan Clark

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Jordan Clark

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

4.3

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.5

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.2

3star

K

10.4

4star

HB

1.8

2star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.4

4star

cost an early 2nd rounder, James Aish

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2nd rounder, Travis Colyer

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Travis Colyer

Age

34

Ht

173cm

Wt

74kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

9.1

4star

HB

5.7

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

0.6

4star

D

9.5

2star

K

6.7

3star

HB

2.8

2star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.3

2star

G

0.3

3star

D

16.8

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

2.2

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

0.0

1star

4th rounder. 2-3 players who can run and spread will make all the difference.

 

[Revenant1995]

 

[Revenant1995]

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

The sample size is big enough now to be a trend. It’s clear as day that we lack outside run. I could take pot shots at certain players who just aren’t up to it but that’s the reality.. there’s a handful of players who try hard but don’t have the skills, decision making, or leg speed to be effective at AFL level. We badly need to address this over the next couple of off-seasons.

It’s not all doom and gloom though because we clearly have a lot of pieces which other clubs would be envious off. We have a very solid midfield. We have power forwards. We have an All-Australian caliber key defender. We need to build around these guys with the correct pieces.

This season is all about learning the new game plan and seeing which players have the ability to carry it out successfully. What has been evident though is we allow the opposition to hit up the short kick far too often (even when they haven’t moved the ball quickly). This is an absolute pet peeve because it just allows the opposition the chance to drain any momentum we may generate but also allows them to chip it down the field until they can launch an inside 50. Inside 50’s should be earned but we give them up far too easily. Not a sustainable brand of footy. I’m not sure if this occurs because we are so worried about our defence that we try to get numbers back, if we lack genuine footy IQ and instincts, or whether it’s a lack of leg speed on the outside.

Anyways, Fremantle far too good tonight and further highlighted the weaknesses on our list. Good luck to them, they’re building nicely and outplayed us immensely. They have the outside run but no gun key forwards. We have the key forwards but no outside run. Both flawed teams until that can be addressed.

Big ups to our skipper though. Lionhearted effort. Hewett also cracked in all game. Saad tried to bring some dash at times. Those were our best three for mine.

Freo played decent footy but we were our own worst enemies....

They didn't win it as much as we handed it to them on a plate imo.

Can't win a game of footy when 6 or more of your team are contributing zilch.

 

[CoachB]

Freo had this game marked on the calendar preseason after we got them twice last year. Longmuire has had the continuity of multiple seasons and has the Dockers up and about.
We were a bit off the boil and didn't get the space and time we have found in other games. Injury toll starting to be felt as we can now see what happens when the bottom 5 aren't up to it.

The one saving grace is after a bad loss the analysis used to be multiple surgeries, now at least prescripton drugs will do the job.

Looks like 5th to 8th is where we should be, the back to the draft to fix our depth issues.

CB

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

Some key issues:

1. Forward 50 entries are lazy...kicking to a huge contest rather than picking a player out.
2. Fisher needs to come out for Carroll, he goes missing way too much and when he has the ball he isn't impacting.
3. Owies is a great story but in reality it's Motlop's position that he is taking. Motlop's upside will be exponentially higher.

This continues to be our downfall.

 

[SurreyBlue]

I don’t like what Young was showing down back

Not sure why you would say this. He took some good marks, defended well by punching from behind a no. times and created - used the ball well. He got beaten once 1v1, if I remember correctly.
IMO, he performed better then Weits, who I think is definitely carrying something but also has directly costed us goals multiple weeks. I don’t get what I’ve missed with all the negativity regarding Young.

Ps. Goes int the ruck and kicks a goal. Sorry I like the kid - a lot.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

The bullodgs were keen to say goodbye

That is rubbish.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

Freo are a level above. Wait until they get fyfe back.

Rubbish.

If it were Darcy that went down early, the result would have been the exact opposite.

 

[Stig O'Hara]

...and why we continuously bomb the ball to Owies/Durdin (can’t tell who’s who) in one out marking contests inside 50 is beyond me.

Opposition sides put marking defenders on him/them & it cuts us to bits on the turnover.

 

[Revenant1995]

Morning after the night before. Ears are ringing. Headache. Good night, apart from Blues loss.

56 Inside 50s to 38, with our I50 efficiency at 42%. All other stats essentially the same (except for HOs, which didn't translate to clearance dominance). I think our heatmap tells the story. We are trying hard, but not trying smart.

 

[Beyond Blue]

Harry's been pretty important late in the close ones this year. A portion of his goals are now going to Charlie.

I am far more concerned about Owies and Durdin. Durdin's smart and a hard worker, but you cannot be a pressure forward by yourself. You need at least two others who also bring the pain around the balldrop, and you need teammates who don't over commit to the ball instead of ensuring that the next tackle is taken care of.

Owies is looking slow, unable to find separation, unable to kick further than 30m, and easy to shrug off. Jack is really too slow and not agile enough to be a pressure forward, even with all the will in the world.

We desperately need Motlop to come in and have an impact, almost immediately.

When Harry attacks the ball and leads hard he 100% looks a million dollars but I noticed last night that he seemed far to willing to engage in wrestling with his opponent and when he did that he started flaying his arms about and looking to the umpires at which point he essentially becomes completely useless to us.

My real concern is I’ve noticed him do this far too much this season.

 

[SurreyBlue]

Simple, we fell into our old habits with not enough pressure provided on their ball carriers.
If we didn’t win the ball, we sat on our hands. If they didn’t win the ball, they hunted us.
That was the main difference in the game.