List Mgmt. 2022 Senior List - The Final TWO Spots

[Bletch]

I don't know, but if Cottrell hurt his finger karate chopping an opponent and then showed dissent...

...It would be a whinging infringing fringe ginger ninja's injured finger...

Just hope it's a stinger that doesn't linger...

could this thread get any cringer?

 

[agro]

Hold my beer.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Sorry to interrupt but about the MSD...

Mid-season draft: The 26 leading contenders in line for an AFL shot

Check out who's on the radar for next week's mid-season draft

www.afl.com.au

 

[F_therest]

I think we need a Levi type, rather than a pure ruck.
Somebody who can fill a spot as a ruck, or a key forward, or a key back. They can cover injuries in any of those areas, without demanding a best 22 spot, or unbalancing our development in the 2s.

Ballenden sounds like the right 'type', probably doesn't get to our pick.
But I don't think we should have 4 rucks on the list with only TDK a legit forward option of the 4.

Do we need a ruck? I feel getting a ruck would indicate the club feels that state player we pick is more ready than Mirkov.

Would love a forward ruck and key defender.

 

[F_therest]

Ballenden is more of a key defender and won the B&F for Lions reserves last year playing as a key defender including games where he had in excess of 30 disposals.He is a reasonable ruckman who generally gives a good contest, but is a great intercept defender with a really good kick. Can play forward as well, I have seen him play a lot in Brisbane and there was genuine shock when he was delisted. He was one of the best players when Carlton reserves played Brisbane reserves. O'Brien had something to prove, and that sounds a dominant game, but I wouldn't discount Ballenden on one game, when he has done well enough in SA to be named to the state team and acquitted himself well in that game.

Any chance of there being 'personal' issues that led to his delisting?

I guess Brisbane are relatively stacked for key defenders with Andrews, Gardiner, Adams and Payne. There may be another im not aware of too.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Ballenden is more of a key defender and won the B&F for Lions reserves last year playing as a key defender including games where he had in excess of 30 disposals.He is a reasonable ruckman who generally gives a good contest, but is a great intercept defender with a really good kick. Can play forward as well, I have seen him play a lot in Brisbane and there was genuine shock when he was delisted. He was one of the best players when Carlton reserves played Brisbane reserves. O'Brien had something to prove, and that sounds a dominant game, but I wouldn't discount Ballenden on one game, when he has done well enough in SA to be named to the state team and acquitted himself well in that game.

Fair point. Didnt realise he could play key defence. In that case his versatility could be handy. Noticed he won the lions reserves b&f last year. Odd he got delisted after that. Its not like they are stacked with great KPP.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

I feel getting a ruck would indicate the club feels that state player we pick is more ready than Mirkov.

Well Mirkov was barely a state player when we took him and hasn't played much since.

 

[BrisbaneBlue]

Fair point. Didnt realise he could play key defence. In that case his versatility could be handy. Noticed he won the lions reserves b&f last year. Odd he got delisted after that. Its not like they are stacked with great KPP.

They have quality key position players. They have Andrews, Adams, Gardiner, Payne, and Lester down back. Forwards Daniher, McStay, Hipwood, Fullarton, and in the ruck McInerney, Lane, Smith, and Fort. Not sure why he was delisted given the season he had last year.

 

[BrisbaneBlue]

Any chance of there being 'personal' issues that led to his delisting?

I guess Brisbane are relatively stacked for key defenders with Andrews, Gardiner, Adams and Payne. There may be another im not aware of too.

From what I know he was popular with the players as he was a Lions Academy player who was highly regarded in his draft year. My son is an underager in Brisbane who has a bit to do with the Lions academy and Ballenden is highly regarded by the players, although he is apparently a quiet guy. I haven't heard of any personal issues, but I think as a player who grew up in Brisbane and then ended up playing for Brisbane he may not have been "hungry". I expect the delisting may have been a kick up the backside that motivated him to go to SA and perform. I know when he was delisted they offerred him a contract to stay on their VFL list.

I also think players from non-AFL states take longer to develop as the Lions and Suns academy (potentially GWS and Swans academy as well) don't play many games and focus mainly on individual players and less on team structure. That show in the results when they play against Victorian underage development teams such as Gellong Falcons, Western Jets, Dandenong, etc

 

[Arr0w]

Ballenden is laconic by nature, similar to Young

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

Sorry to interrupt but about the MSD...

Mid-season draft: The 26 leading contenders in line for an AFL shot

Check out who's on the radar for next week's mid-season draft

www.afl.com.au

Any of our ITK's willing to have a crack at Carlton's preferred top 18?

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

Fletcher Hart looks an interesting prospect....

18yo, 199cm....

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Any of our ITK's willing to have a crack at Carlton's preferred top 18?

Might help your query

AFL mid-season draft state of play: The clubs set to pick - and the players they’ve been linked to

The clubs set to pick - and the stars they’re eyeing to fill a chasm: AFL Draft Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[The Smoking Gun]

I like Zac Strom who is a 198cm swingman and AFL ready. I'd initially use him as a KPD and use Young as a KPF/Ruck until McKay returns. Strom is an absolute professional off the field and been a solid performer for South Freo for years. Reckon he'd fit right in to a fast-maturing Blues side. Luckily he's not 30 yet so the Cats are unlikely to be interested.

There's some genuinely interesting young KPPs & Rucks to have a look at:

• Max Ramsden 202cm Ruck who can do 2km at 6:04. Doubt he gets to us.
• Fletcher Hart 199cm KPF and still 18yo.
• Mutaz El Nour 192+cm defender. Supposedly grown a bit if you believe afl.com.au

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

Zac Strom​

Fremantle and Brisbane both showed strong interest in Strom during the pre-season supplemental selection period, but neither club was able to invite the South Fremantle utility to train ahead of the deadline because of his ineligibility. The 28-year-old chiropractor has built an impressive professional career away from football, but was prepared to put his life on hold when the Dockers and Lions showed interest in February and is still hoping they come knocking on June 1. The 198cm utility has been a star for South Fremantle in the WAFL for a long time and could plug some holes for AFL sides in the second half of 2022.

 

[Arr0w]

Zac Strom​

Fremantle and Brisbane both showed strong interest in Strom during the pre-season supplemental selection period, but neither club was able to invite the South Fremantle utility to train ahead of the deadline because of his ineligibility. The 28-year-old chiropractor has built an impressive professional career away from football, but was prepared to put his life on hold when the Dockers and Lions showed interest in February and is still hoping they come knocking on June 1. The 198cm utility has been a star for South Fremantle in the WAFL for a long time and could plug some holes for AFL sides in the second half of 2022.

Bluemour Melting Pot XXVII

I shaved my head today (my usual 'hairdo') but was too lazy to shave my stubble/beard. My wife queried it and I replied that I was rocking the Adam Saad look. Mr_Plow, is it possible for someone's eyes to roll backwards so hard they fall out via the ankles? Asking for a friend's wife...

www.bigfooty.com

 

[rp84]

Zac Strom​

Fremantle and Brisbane both showed strong interest in Strom during the pre-season supplemental selection period, but neither club was able to invite the South Fremantle utility to train ahead of the deadline because of his ineligibility. The 28-year-old chiropractor has built an impressive professional career away from football, but was prepared to put his life on hold when the Dockers and Lions showed interest in February and is still hoping they come knocking on June 1. The 198cm utility has been a star for South Fremantle in the WAFL for a long time and could plug some holes for AFL sides in the second half of 2022.

Kinda sounds perfect. Need someone ready to play for 3-4 years while we draft some kids to fill the age gaps.

 

[no fate]

If we took Sam Durdin

38

Sam Durdin

Age

29

Ht

199cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.7

2star

K

6.2

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

11.2

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.6

4star

we'd be going back to the 2014 draft 'gold mine' that has so far netted us (oh boy):

Jarrod Pickett

Jarrod Pickett

Age

29

Ht

178cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.8

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

3.1

3star

M

1.9

2star

T

2.4

4star

G

0.5

3star

No current season stats available

D

8.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.2

4star

G

0.4

3star

Caleb Marchbank
Jarrod Garlett

Jarrod Garlett

Age

30

Ht

180cm

Wt

74kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

3.9

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

0.5

3star

No current season stats available

D

7.4

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

2.8

3star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.4

3star

Blaine Boekhorst

Blaine Boekhorst

Age

32

Ht

187cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.9

4star

K

8.2

3star

HB

5.7

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.4

4star

CL

0.7

3star

No current season stats available

D

12.0

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

2.2

4star

CL

0.6

3star

Hugh Goddard

45

Hugh Goddard

Age

29

Ht

198cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.5

2star

K

3.5

1star

HB

6.0

4star

M

2.9

3star

T

1.1

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.6

4star

K

4.6

2star

HB

9.0

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

0.8

3star

Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
Mitch McGovern

11

Mitch Mcgovern

Age

31

Ht

190cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.1

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

2.9

3star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

189.8

3star

D

7.6

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

1.1

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.9

3star

MG

179.6

3star

D

10.8

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.0

5star

MG

218.0

4star

Marc Pittonet

27

Marc Pittonet

Age

29

Ht

202cm

Wt

107kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.7

2star

K

2.9

1star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

3.1

5star

HO

22.3

5star

D

8.6

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.0

3star

CL

3.7

5star

HO

25.9

5star

D

5.8

2star

K

1.2

1star

HB

4.6

4star

CL

2.4

5star

HO

16.6

5star

Oscar McDonald

21

Oscar Mcdonald

Age

30

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

191.4

3star

D

11.3

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.7

3star

MG

157.7

3star

D

14.8

4star

K

5.4

2star

HB

9.4

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

0.4

3star

MG

138.4

3star

Clem Smith

Clem Smith

Age

30

Ht

178cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.9

2star

K

3.4

1star

HB

4.4

3star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.3

3star

MG

112.7

2star

No current season stats available

D

9.0

3star

K

4.2

2star

HB

4.8

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

MG

130.0

3star

Jayden Foster
Josh Deluca

There was some gold in that draft too, would be nice to get back in the old time machine and make some different decisions there, Touk Miller

11

Touk Miller

Age

30

Ht

178cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.7

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

12.3

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

5.4

5star

CL

4.2

5star

D

22.0

5star

K

11.4

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

2.9

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

17.8

5star

K

5.8

3star

HB

12.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.0

5star

instead of BB or DVR would have been a good start.

Inb4 any potential complaints about this summation, yes Pitto goes OK, and our 3 "M"s from the current backline might theoretically be alright if they could get on the park. Our team would want for nothing if they'd been durable.

 

[BigBreakfast]

^^^

In last year's MSD (small sample).... 7 of the 22 selections were rucks. And project ones at that... avg 19yo.

You'd never(-ish) get 7 rucks selected in the top 22 picks of the National Draft.

Just an example of how MSD strategy means other players can 'slide'...

Stop making so much sense

 

[F_therest]

From what I know he was popular with the players as he was a Lions Academy player who was highly regarded in his draft year. My son is an underager in Brisbane who has a bit to do with the Lions academy and Ballenden is highly regarded by the players, although he is apparently a quiet guy. I haven't heard of any personal issues, but I think as a player who grew up in Brisbane and then ended up playing for Brisbane he may not have been "hungry". I expect the delisting may have been a kick up the backside that motivated him to go to SA and perform. I know when he was delisted they offerred him a contract to stay on their VFL list.

I also think players from non-AFL states take longer to develop as the Lions and Suns academy (potentially GWS and Swans academy as well) don't play many games and focus mainly on individual players and less on team structure. That show in the results when they play against Victorian underage development teams such as Gellong Falcons, Western Jets, Dandenong, etc

My guess is he'll be taken by a team like North or Adelaide who really need key defenders in their best 22. For Ballenden, who has named contract terms, makes sense to go somewhere he's likely to be best 22 and have a long career.

Realistically we have very good talls and it may be difficult for him to be anything but depth.

 

[Kramer1]

I don't know, but if Cottrell hurt his finger karate chopping an opponent and then showed dissent...

...It would be a whinging infringing fringe ginger ninja's injured finger...

Possibly your best work.

 

[Kramer1]

Does anyone here have the tactical nous to geurilla vaccinate Jonesy with a blow dart?

 

[WalshYouLegend]

Zac Strom​

Fremantle and Brisbane both showed strong interest in Strom during the pre-season supplemental selection period, but neither club was able to invite the South Fremantle utility to train ahead of the deadline because of his ineligibility. The 28-year-old chiropractor has built an impressive professional career away from football, but was prepared to put his life on hold when the Dockers and Lions showed interest in February and is still hoping they come knocking on June 1. The 198cm utility has been a star for South Fremantle in the WAFL for a long time and could plug some holes for AFL sides in the second half of 2022.

As a qualified chiropractor this guy is TWO for one. We get his excellent positional services plus he'll fix up Oscar McDonald's back and have him on field again within a week too. Fantastic!

 

[teagueyubeauty]

He’d have incredibly strong hands, vice like on the ball


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[swuzzlebubble]

Realistically we have very good talls and it may be difficult for him to be anything but depth.

IE exactly what we need someone for