List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread II

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades

Spoiler: Draft Pick order

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Spoiler: Key dates

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm
Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[roos 10]

Who has spoke to him Saints or us?

Both

 

[Harris 10]

Both

The last thing we need, stay away.

 

[Shermanator]

Both

 

[Shinboner1]

Hunter is Polec 2.0.

Nah I don't think so. Hunter can carry, polec was always a support player

 

[Psicosis]

 

[shinboner magic]

Nobles is on trade radio

 

[Shinboner1]

Nobles is on trade radio

'I tried my best to piss off the players this year so they'd all ask for trades and come cheap' -David Noble.

 

[Kangaroos techno]

I'd rather recruit Hartung over Hunter.

Billy is younger and one of the hardest trainers. Good example for the young players.



He's also working in construction so could help oversee the arden developments.

 

[Shinboner1]

Tbh I thought when you said Hunter you were talking about Hunter clark

11

Hunter Clark

Age

26

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

9.6

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.9

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

not lachie Hunter

 

[Moti]

Hunter is likely to be AA next year but not the end-of-year team so I would be staying away.

 

[Rooboy 96]

I heard this a month ago it’s just on bulldogs board

I was hoping we would have a no dickheads or no duckers rule in place by now


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[The Nostradamus]

Would think we have enough players trying to get to us that we don’t need to worry about any lachie hunter possibility

Just get Logue, tucker and hunter Clark

11

Hunter Clark

Age

26

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

9.6

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.9

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

done

 

[wazza03]

We need to get Bowes to nominate us. Get Clarko to sell his vision.
Having picks 1 & 7 would be sensational especially given our next pick is at 55.
Imagine adding Logue, Tucker, Clark, Bowes, Hill and pick 7 this off season.
Improves our depth immediately and youth of (pick 1)Cadman/Wardlaw (pick 7) Busslinger/Humphrey and Harvey.


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[see see]

I think the AFL should bring out like a 12 month advent calendar, with all sorts of different shaped chocolates to cover the year ..... oooohhh look at that a little choccie Brad Scott under the "March 7 New Rule" flap

Heads up rickety, that's not chocolate.

Bards certainly had that effect on me.

 

[Kanga Glory]

Noble will talking to Louge before he got the arse

 

[giantroo]

Gold Coast could shed as much as $2 million in salary cap room in the next 15 days in an aggressive bid to overhaul its total player payments.

The Suns will be the first club in modern history to make dramatic use of the salary dump mechanism which allows clubs to move on highly paid players for little or no draft return.

It will give Victorian clubs the chance to add quality Suns players and draft picks to their lists with very little downside or risk.

Running defender Jack Bowes

12

Jack Bowes

Age

27

Ht

189cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.5

4star

MG

318.1

4star

D

18.0

4star

K

11.8

5star

HB

6.3

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

318.1

4star

D

11.6

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.4

4star

has interest from multiple clubs who would secure the Suns pick seven to accept the last two-years of back-ended highly paid deal.

The Herald Sun understands that deal is worth over $500,000 in each of the next two seasons, with Essendon, Hawthorn, St Kilda and Geelong among the interested parties.

Essendon has vast cap space, St Kilda wants to get back into the draft, and Hawthorn has already thrived by securing Jack Scrimshaw

14

Jack Scrimshaw

Age

27

Ht

194cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.8

4star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.1

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.4

3star

MG

200.7

3star

D

12.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

5.3

3star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.3

2star

MG

167.0

3star

D

10.2

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

155.6

3star

as a fellow Suns top 10 pick from the same draft.

The Suns would have paid Izak Rankine

23

Izak Rankine

Age

25

Ht

179cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.7

4star

D

13.0

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.7

4star

D

13.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.7

5star

CL

1.7

4star

around $650,000 a season over a long-term deal but will not replace him as a small forward given their confidence in Malcolm Rosas and Ben Ainsworth

9

Ben Ainsworth

Age

27

Ht

178cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

8.1

3star

HB

6.1

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.7

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

12.8

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.3

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

13.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

6.8

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

3.4

5star

G

0.6

3star

.

Brayden Fiorini

8

Brayden Fiorini

Age

28

Ht

187cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.9

5star

K

13.9

5star

HB

9.1

5star

M

4.7

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

2.9

4star

D

16.3

4star

K

11.0

4star

HB

5.3

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.7

3star

CL

0.7

3star

D

21.2

5star

K

10.2

4star

HB

11.0

5star

M

4.6

5star

T

4.2

5star

CL

3.2

5star

will also be involved in a salary dump, most likely to Collingwood, which could see the Pies absorb his $600,000 salary next year and improve their draft hand.

Alex Sexton

6

Alex Sexton

Age

32

Ht

186cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.4

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

316.2

4star

D

9.6

2star

K

7.3

3star

HB

2.3

2star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.9

3star

D

9.4

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

2.0

4star

is also due over $500,000 on the last year of a back ended deal but if there is little interest from rivals the club and his management might consider restructuring his deal.

The Suns are investigating restructuring some existing contracts after smoothing out Darcy Macpherson

44

Darcy Macpherson

Age

28

Ht

175cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.1

4star

K

9.3

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.9

5star

MG

187.8

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

6.3

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.5

3star

MG

137.3

2star

D

11.6

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

4.8

5star

MG

113.6

2star

’s contract last year over an additional year.

Jeremy Sharp is not well paid but could head to Fremantle, while versatile tall Josh Corbett

19

Josh Corbett

Age

29

Ht

190cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.0

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

10.4

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.6

3star

is also linked to the Dockers.

If the Suns can move on those players or restructure their contracts it will realign their salary cap and give them opportunities to be aggressive in free agency or the trade period in coming years.

After nine first-round picks in the past four years the Suns have judged that having cap space is more critical to their fortunes in coming years than stockpiling more early picks.

The Suns will secure Ben Long

22

Ben Long

Age

28

Ht

186cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.9

3star

K

6.2

2star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.7

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

12.8

3star

K

6.7

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.3

3star

G

0.0

1star

D

13.4

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

3.2

5star

G

0.6

3star

on a four-year deal and has some interest in Western Bulldogs defender Jason Johannisen

39

Jason Johannisen

Age

33

Ht

181cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.2

5star

K

12.9

5star

HB

7.3

5star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

418.9

5star

D

16.3

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.9

3star

MG

283.1

4star

D

15.6

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.6

4star

but is not prepared to offer him the three-year deal he has requested.

He has been offered a two-year deal at the Dogs so could stay there if another suitor doesn’t emerge.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

I don’t understand why you’d cut Bowes but then try to bring in Johannison on a 3 year deal. Johannison is done as an AFL footballer.

 

[giantroo]

 

[DocSholl]

Not sure we have the currency to bring in Bowes on top of the targets we have, unless we then split 7 or refused to trade for Logue.

 

[Hearts to hearts]

Not sure we have the currency to bring in Bowes on top of the targets we have, unless we then split 7.

We have to draft three so we are out of list spots if we get everyone we are linked with and then start adding any other good options that come up. (Hopes poster with green/red/orange summary shows up when summoned.)

 

[Shinboner1]

Gold Coast could shed as much as $2 million in salary cap room in the next 15 days in an aggressive bid to overhaul its total player payments.

The Suns will be the first club in modern history to make dramatic use of the salary dump mechanism which allows clubs to move on highly paid players for little or no draft return.

It will give Victorian clubs the chance to add quality Suns players and draft picks to their lists with very little downside or risk.

Running defender Jack Bowes has interest from multiple clubs who would secure the Suns pick seven to accept the last two-years of back-ended highly paid deal.

The Herald Sun understands that deal is worth over $500,000 in each of the next two seasons, with Essendon, Hawthorn, St Kilda and Geelong among the interested parties.

Essendon has vast cap space, St Kilda wants to get back into the draft, and Hawthorn has already thrived by securing Jack Scrimshaw as a fellow Suns top 10 pick from the same draft.

The Suns would have paid Izak Rankine around $650,000 a season over a long-term deal but will not replace him as a small forward given their confidence in Malcolm Rosas and Ben Ainsworth.

Brayden Fiorini will also be involved in a salary dump, most likely to Collingwood, which could see the Pies absorb his $600,000 salary next year and improve their draft hand.

Alex Sexton is also due over $500,000 on the last year of a back ended deal but if there is little interest from rivals the club and his management might consider restructuring his deal.

The Suns are investigating restructuring some existing contracts after smoothing out Darcy Macpherson’s contract last year over an additional year.

Jeremy Sharp is not well paid but could head to Fremantle, while versatile tall Josh Corbett is also linked to the Dockers.

If the Suns can move on those players or restructure their contracts it will realign their salary cap and give them opportunities to be aggressive in free agency or the trade period in coming years.

After nine first-round picks in the past four years the Suns have judged that having cap space is more critical to their fortunes in coming years than stockpiling more early picks.

The Suns will secure Ben Long on a four-year deal and has some interest in Western Bulldogs defender Jason Johannisen but is not prepared to offer him the three-year deal he has requested.

He has been offered a two-year deal at the Dogs so could stay there if another suitor doesn’t emerge.

Nothing about Norths vast cap space..

 

[hoffseason gains]

We probably don’t want Bowes. Bowes, from what I’ve read, wants to play mid. He would not scratch our starting midfield. He is more effective than Tucker for example but Tucker is not on $600k+ with backended years of $850k apparently. Gold Coast are not trading Bowes and 7 for cap space and that’s it, they’d most likely want at least one second round pick (or even future first for a good team) back, we simply don’t have the picks to facilitate that and our other desired trades. It would be nice to have pick 7 but it’s that pick and Bowes takes up two more list spots which makes it really really tight as well from that aspect. Just not that realistic for us.

 

[the flying ham]

Nothing about Norths vast cap space..

Youd think Tucker 350 to 400, logue 600k, Clark 500 to 600k. Not so vast

 

[buttox]

We have to draft three so we are out of list spots if we get everyone we are linked with and then start adding any other good options that come up. (Hopes poster with green/red/orange summary shows up when summoned.)

So out of contract 2022 we currently have the following

Turner, J Walker, Jed, Atu, Kyron, Mcguiness (cat b), P Walker.

Orange = on thin ice
Red = Already Delisted this year.

If the oranges all go.
We will have 8 open list spots.
Players coming in so far
Logue, Tucker and 3 minimum national draft picks. So 5 of the 8 are already spoken for. 1 of Turner, Jed, Atu and Walker is already gone.
Clarko said he wants to bring in 5-6 senior players. Only way that works is if all the guys in Orange are gone.
That is how it stands currently.
For mine the best we can do with the last 3 spots is
Clark
Gunston
Hill/ Bowes
Hope this helps.

 

[Shinboner1]

Youd think Tucker 350 to 400, logue 600k, Clark 500 to 600k. Not so vast

Yeah but surely jed anderson is on 1.2mil a year and it evens out.
In all seriousness we're dropping 2-3 players on ok money (350-500k), its not like we're swapping 1st contract rookies for established players here.