List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread II

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades

Spoiler: Draft Pick order

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Spoiler: Key dates

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When does Free Agency begin? How long does the Trade Period go for? Find out on AFL.com.au.

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm
Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[BlueandWhiteinmyBlood]

I trust Clarko and Viney. They will get this done appropriately for what our club deserves. I can see pick 1 = 3, 12, 18. I’m finding the JHF trade harder to decipher but would be extremely happy if we kept him too. If we happened to get pick 12, that ain’t going to Saints for Hunter Clark

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Hunter Clark

Age

26

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

9.6

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.9

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

, would be used on someone like Jefferson in my opinion. Hunter Clark

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Hunter Clark

Age

26

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

9.6

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.9

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

is a second round pick.

 

[tales129]

Was thinking about this earlier if we can walk away with 2,3,12 Clark and a F1st for jhf and 1 I think it’s around the mark

• 2 of sheezel cadman and wardlaw
• A pick before cooper that depending on what’s there we can either trade up live or flick into the first round next year
• Clark - for pick 18
• Future first I’d expect to be between 12-18 next year.

Basically two trades
1> 3,12,18
Jhf > 2, F1st

This is all hinging on the potential that next years kpf are better than cadman

 

[Hearts to hearts]

Was thinking about this earlier if we can walk away with 2,3,12 Clark and a F1st for jhf and 1 I think it’s around the mark

• 2 of sheezel cadman and wardlaw
• A pick before cooper that depending on what’s there we can either trade up live or flick into the first round next year
• Clark - for pick 18
• Future first I’d expect to be between 12-18 next year.

Basically two trades
1> 3,12,18
Jhf > 2, F1st

This is all hinging on the potential that next years kpf are better than cadman

Cadman would have to be better than two of Wardlaw/Sheezel/Tsatas combined to prefer the alternative.

I know multiclub deals are wild but in this case I don’t like thinking pick 1 is on the table if we haven’t got pick 2, so a package of deals can help.

And I honestly don’t care if a multiclub deal works out well for Port or not. I only care if the result works for us. I’d rather have a better outcome for North where Port is also happy than a lesser outcome for North that hits them harder. The only revenge that counts, if you are into that, is our club getting better on field.

 

[chickenonachain]

Is this trade circus still on going over the weekend or do they have the weekend off?

 

[The b shart]

If we don't go cadman what options do we have on regards to key forwards if larkey goes down?

Comben, not up to it, too injury prone. CCJ is more a resting ruck.

Whose left? He needs some help and that should be the main priority.

Any genuine stop gap options available?

 

[GS WARRIORS]

Settle there is a bloke called Todd Viney and another named Clarkson who will have veto on this - please stop having a go at Rawlings every 5 minutes. Viney is a good operator and I can see him sitting back laughing at Tom Brownes suggested trade.

Yep. Seems like the media have spoken with Port and GWS who are winning big time in the trade. There must be big parts missing.

All we have said this week is.

• 8 and F1 is not good enough and we had better deals last year.

Last night's deal.

• 2 and F1.
• Yes better but we are giving up 12 to get 2, not Port. Port still only have 8 and F1 listed.
• Port need to give us something equaling 12 back like Sin/Bergman
• GWS need to give up more than 3 and12. Maybe something for Clark.

 

[chickenonachain]

Lets give this 4 way deal a try.

Port
In: JFH, Rioli
Out: 8, 33, f1, f2

GWS
In: 1, 2
Out: 3, 12, 15, f1

WC
In: 8, 12, 33, f1(gws), f1(pa), f2(pa)
Out: Rioli, 2, f1

NM
In: 3, 15, f1(wc)
Out: JHF, 1

**** me drunk

 

[Sphynx]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades

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Spoiler: Draft Pick order

AFL Draft - AFL.com.au

Australian Football League. All the latest AFL news, video, results and information

www.afl.com.au

Spoiler: Key dates

AFL Trade Period Key Dates - AFL.com.au

When does Free Agency begin? How long does the Trade Period go for? Find out on AFL.com.au.

www.afl.com.au

Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm
Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement

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Was thinking about this earlier if we can walk away with 2,3,12 Clark and a F1st for jhf and 1 I think it’s around the mark

• 2 of sheezel cadman and wardlaw
• A pick before cooper that depending on what’s there we can either trade up live or flick into the first round next year
• Clark - for pick 18
• Future first I’d expect to be between 12-18 next year.

Basically two trades
1> 3,12,18
Jhf > 2, F1st

This is all hinging on the potential that next years kpf are better than cadman

12 is going to West Coast

 

[Bush Kanga]

After reading thousands of trade scenario’s, it’s done my head in….but

I’d like to see the Hopper deal go down first to see GWS full hand and what we can extract. Maybe Tigers future first comes into it. Then do the trade with them if we are going to.

Worry about Port at the end. If they haven’t shaken a player out of the tree by close of business Monday, the deal is well and truly on the rocks.

 

[ToxicMegaPunts]

If we don't go cadman what options do we have on regards to key forwards if larkey goes down?

Comben, not up to it, too injury prone. CCJ is more a resting ruck.

Whose left? He needs some help and that should be the main priority.

Any genuine stop gap options available?

 

[Hearts to hearts]

Is this trade circus still on going over the weekend or do they have the weekend off?

From memory, no trades are processed over the weekend but discussions can carry on.

 

[TruRoos7]

3 and 12 for 1 is a shit deal in anyone’s language…!

It’s like 500 points over value but gets Gws the best player in the draft (Ashcroft has to be excluded as he isn’t actually in the draft as he isn’t available to anyone but Brions).

Why the **** would we even contemplate, like these ****ing trade gurus keep coming up with, for 500 points value a trade down 2 spots!

 

[The b shart]

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[Mordecai]

3 and 12 for 1 is a s**t deal in anyone’s language…!

It’s like 500 points over value but gets Gws the best player in the draft (Ashcroft has to be excluded as he isn’t actually in the draft as he isn’t available to anyone but Brions).

Why the * would we even contemplate, like these ******* trade gurus keep coming up with, for 500 points value a trade down 2 spots!

Because the top 5 are good and we get a free swing with 12

 

[7577969923]

1 alone is arguably worth 3 and 15, and JHF's worth is clearly higher than a future 1st.

Add a Josh Sinn to that haul and it is close.

 

[Ry009]

I trust Clarko and Viney. They will get this done appropriately for what our club deserves. I can see pick 1 = 3, 12, 18. I’m finding the JHF trade harder to decipher but would be extremely happy if we kept him too. If we happened to get pick 12, that ain’t going to Saints for Hunter Clark, would be used on someone like Jefferson in my opinion. Hunter Clark is a second round pick.

Agree on the value, but he's under contract with StKilda. It's a bit rich of us (not referring to you) to point to JHF's contract and then ask for Clark without giving St Kilda a reason to let him out of his contract.

Unless we give a pick in the teens, he's staying at StKilda IMO.

Personally would prefer we hold JHF at the moment, and also see where Clark is at in 12 months.

 

[XU1-ROO]

North, for losing Horne-Francis, would scoop up pick No.2 as well as likely Port Adelaide's future first-round pick, with a number of other current and future draft selections also discussed as part of the trade talks.
This on the AFL website. Wow we scoop up pick 2 and loss pick 1 for Ports F1 and other crapy picks.
If we want picks like 12 15 19. We can have them when we finish in the top 8.

 

[chickenonachain]

From memory, no trades are processed over the weekend but discussions can carry on.

Thanks for that I was hoping for a reprieve over the weekend

 

[Smoocher]

I don't think Cadman is the answer.

He is rated the 4-5th best player in this draft.

Any stand out tall forward in past years is rated as number 1.

GWS need him because:-

1. He is the best tall in this draft.

2. He is a country boy and more likely to not ask for a trade after 2 years.

Having said that if we do pick him I'm all on board.

IN CLARKO I TRUST

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[CBSlogger]

God I love this man

 

[kirbonavich]

12, 15, 18 from GWS out pick 1, 59 & F4

3365 points received, lost 3158 in this draft and 158 next year or a surplus of 39 points - fair for both parties.

8, F1, 33 from Port for old mate, points received will range from 4100-3200 depending on Ports finish in 2023 (4-14 for arguments sake)
Compensation for pick 1 wasted but less than the 5000 mega point offer from Radelaide in 2021.

This leaves North with 8, 12, 15, 18, 33

In addition one would assume pick 1, 4-14 and 19 in next years draft.

Ample opportunity of landing:

Jhye Clark - inside mid with pick 8
Matthew Jefferson - KF with pick 12
Jedd Busslinger - KD with pick 15
Lewis Hayes - KD with pick 18
Jakob Ryan - Running defender with pick 33

Personally I don’t mind inbounding 5 of the ‘best’ kids in the country in a draft.

Pick one is just pointless with all the FS, academy etc

 

[Ashley B]

If we are trading two pick 1 s we need at least 2 top 5 picks back and the rest, **** them , keep them both. As I said earlier we have worked diligently to become this shit on field we need top picks, the cream,not copious amounts of late round 1 picks .

 

[Harvey Manfrenjensenden]

Yep. Seems like the media have spoken with Port and GWS who are winning big time in the trade. There must be big parts missing.

All we have said this week is.

• 8 and F1 is not good enough and we had better deals last year.

Last night's deal.

• 2 and F1.
• Yes better but we are giving up 12 to get 2, not Port. Port still only have 8 and F1 listed.
• Port need to give us something equaling 12 back like Sin/Bergman
• GWS need to give up more than 3 and12. Maybe something for Clark.

This.

2 and F1 is ok

Giving up 12 to get 2 is not the right deal for us. It needs another 1st or a player be it from port or enough currency to land Clark.

I will say I don't think going in with the mind set that Port needs to lose will get us the best possible deal. Don't get me wrong I want them to pay, but if they get other clubs in on the deal and we get what we want, them walking away with a good deal for them is not our concern.

As long as we get what we believe is the right deal as we have the most currency in this 2 number 1 picks.

 

[King Hansen]

Souup roos_fanatic08 where does Cadman sit against 2023 draft talls

Who the **** would know? Harry Lemmey was meant to go top 5 this year and now he's be lucky to get drafted. 12 months is a long time.

Cadman was an unknown for most people this time last year too

 

[kirbonavich]

If we are trading two pick 1 s we need at least 2 top 5 picks back and the rest, * them , keep them both. As I said earlier we have worked diligently to become this s**t on field we need top picks, the cream,not copious amounts of late round 1 picks .

We don’t even have the pie to put the cream on.

Ablett is arguably the best cream in history, didn’t work out well for GC.