List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread II

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades

Spoiler: Draft Pick order

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Spoiler: Key dates

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm
Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[New_Roo]

Bedford is a shitmen.

You have no idea


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[New_Roo]

McStay is a spud. Let the Pies stick to that commitment.

He isn't a spud. He is a good solid honest footballer. Pushed out of his best position at the lions. Works hard, strong mark and great left peg. He isn't a superstar but we don't need that. Just a solid contributor alongside souva.... look how far Coll have got with a similar type of player in mio


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[leighlee13]

Can anyone open this?

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-hq/afl-trade-news-tanner-bruhn-to-cost-geelong-firstround-pick-latest-whispers/news-story/4ed6d397d062126cd5d72272f93b3ed9

Mcstay gets a mention.

AFL trade news: Dan McStay, Lloyd Meek, Jack Crisp, and the latest whispers​

As the Brisbane Lions lick their wounds after a Preliminary Final mauling, coach Chris Fagan has addressed the Dan McStay trade issue.

Glenn McFarlane and Marc McGowan

Brisbane coach Chris Fagan is all but resigned to losing Collingwood-bound Daniel McStay in free agency despite him not revealing his intentions yet.
The Lions’ season came to a crashing halt at Geelong’s hands on Friday night in a 71-point preliminary final demolition that illustrated the improvement they still need to make.

Brisbane will get a significant boost next year with likely No.1 selection Will Ashcroft to join a midfield that could also boast Bulldog Josh Dunkley – but Fagan refused to comment on Dunkley’s status.

On the sixth-year coach’s logic on McStay, one of Brisbane or Port Adelaide can expect to lure Dunkley out of the Kennel.

“I don’t know (what McStay is doing), because Dan hasn’t told me,” Fagan said.

“But I would suspect if he was going to be a Brisbane player next year, we would know that by now.

“So, if Collingwood is the club, then Collingwood is the club – that wouldn’t surprise me – but we haven’t had that conversation.”
Fagan deferred a question about Dunkley to his list management team, saying he was “not prepared to comment about potential trades from other clubs”.

The Lions were competitive enough in the first quarter on Friday night but a trend of not being able to solve the Cats’ defensive riddle had already begun.

Fagan was yet to address his players when he spoke to the media but expected the post-mortem to be a mixture of optimism about the strides they made in 2022 versus the preliminary final “disappointment”.

“There have been a lot of good things that have happened this year,” he said.

“(Friday night) wasn’t one of them, so we shouldn’t not talk about those things.

“But we should also talk about the learnings we get from playing against a great side like Geelong, which just played a brilliant finals game tonight and looks in great shape for next week.”

Which Vic clubs are into big Docker?​

Greater Western Sydney is not one of the clubs chasing Fremantle ruckman Lloyd Meek.

Meek is caught in the Luke Jackson trade crossfire, given he has already struggled for regular senior opportunities with Sean Darcy the resident No.1 big man and Rory Lobb as forward-ruck.

Jackson is yet to specify whether he wants to be a Docker or Eagle but the strong suspicion is he will make his way to Fremantle eventually.

But Lobb’s trade request to the Western Bulldogs — even though the Dockers are standing firm they won’t trade him now Griffin Logue is leaving — and Meek being contracted until the end of next year are complicating factors.

If Lobb is to leave and Jackson lands at Freo, the Dockers still might prefer to have Meek as depth in case of injury to Darcy or Jackson because there are no other ruckmen on the list.

West Coast, which remains in the Jackson race, is understood to be one club keen to bring in Meek as it considers life after 32-year-old Nic Naitanui, who just re-signed for two years.

Melbourne is also an option, given it will lose Jackson to Fremantle and has little ruck depth behind Max Gawn, even with Collingwood’s Brodie Grundy expected to be in red and blue in 2023.

But Meek won’t be at the Giants, who already have Braydon Preuss, Matt Flynn and Kieren Briggs and may bring in Tiger Ivan Soldo as part of the potential package for Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper.

CRISP TO BE REWARDED WITH LONG-TERM PIES DEAL​

Jack Crisp’s extraordinary rise from hard-running half-back to a powerful midfield force is likely to be rewarded with a new long-term deal in the months after Collingwood’s 2022 trade/free agency period.

While the Magpies have yet to start serious negotiations with Crisp as they work through more immediate list management issues, Crisp’s manager Anthony McConville is keen to kick-start the dialogue after next month’s trade period.

Crisp, who turns 29 next month, still has one more year to run on the five-year deal he inked in early 2019.

In the years since he has elevated his game to a new level, winning last year’s Copeland Trophy and he remains one of the favourites to make it back-to-back best and fairests.

“He’s contracted until the end of next year, so I would imagine once we get past (the) trade (period) and when the club sees its salary cap position, those conversations will come,” McConville, from Macs Sports Promotions, told Moneyball.

“He has just been such a consistent player so I am sure common sense will prevail.”

Crisp hasn’t missed a Collingwood game since joining the club in late 2014.

He was included in the deal that saw Brisbane secure Dayne Beams, with the Magpies getting Crisp, pick 5 (drafting Jordan De Goey) and pick 25 (traded to North Melbourne for Levi Greenwood).

The Magpies have offered restricted free agent De Goey a four-year $3.2 million contract — with some behaviour clauses — as they look to stave off interest from a cashed-up St Kilda.

Collingwood will have a busy trade and free agency period with a number of players expected to join the club in 2023.

Lions forward Dan McStay is certain to be in black and white next season, as is GWS small forward Bobby Hill.

Adelaide’s Billy Frampton and Gold Coast’s Brayden Fiorini are keen to join the Magpies, while Hawk Tom Mitchell has been linked to a number of clubs, including Collingwood.

Will Bombers move on possession magnet?​

Essendon will not make a move on former Hawthorn and Collingwood wingman Tom Phillips for next season.

Phillips was linked to the Bombers to help add some depth to their outside midfield options, but the club is not prepared to add him to the list under a new coach for 2023.

Phillips played four games for the Hawks this year after 22 last season but the club was keen to head in a more youthful direction under Sam Mitchell.

The wingman, who is 26, could still play at the top level for several more years if he is given the opportunity.

Phillips is renowned for his hard run and ability to win high possession numbers but he was moved on from Collingwood as part of the 2020 salary cap cleanse.

Essendon has spoken to ex-Blue Liam Stocker but there are no guarantees the hard nut defender will receive an AFL lifeline for next season after four years at Carlton.

Blues’ midfielder Will Setterfield is also looking for a new opportunity, while Paddy Dow could also be tempted after a dominant year in the VFL.

Essendon will zero in on young talent and is intent on keeping its top draft pick to pick up another elite young talents after adding Nik Cox, Zach Reid, Archie Perkins and Ben Hobbs over the past two drafts.

Win or lose! Former Bomber expected at The Hangar​

Essendon premiership player Dean Solomon seems certain to be at Tullamarine next season, regardless of whether he wins the race to become the club’s senior coach or not.

Solomon, 43, pitched for the club’s senior coaching job on Wednesday along with three other candidates, including his close friend and former teammate James Hird.

Even before Ben Rutten was sacked as coach, the highly-rated Solomon was approached about potentially playing a role in the Bombers’ football department next season.

Solomon could be offered a long-term deal working within the club in what would be a welcome return for the much-loved 2000 premiership hardman.

He was a long-time assistant coach at Gold Coast and filled in as caretaker coach for three games after Rodney Eade was sacked.

He lost out on the Suns’ senior job when Stuart Dew was appointed and was moved on from the Gold Coast at the end of 2020.

He took a break from coaching until he and Hird were approached by GWS caretaker Mark McVeigh mid-season to come on as part-time assistant coaches. He wants to get back into football full-time.

Logue trade might have some more meat on bone​

A second Fremantle player could be headed to North Melbourne behind Griffin Logue, with Darcy Tucker set to undergo a medical in the coming weeks.

Tucker dodged an ACL injury playing in the WAFL two weekends ago but is recovering from surgery to repair a torn meniscus in his right knee.

The Dockers used the 25-year-old in defence in recent times but it’s understood the Kangaroos see him as a midfield option who can also play on the wing and up forward.

He has struggled to cement a regular spot under Justin Longmuir and would have a clearer path to games at North Melbourne.

Tucker is yet to nominate a club, with Essendon among his other suitors, but Fremantle is willing to trade him at the right price, potentially in the same deal as Logue, who has chosen the Roos.

North’s new coach Alastair Clarkson is quickly becoming the AFL’s answer to the Pied Piper as he aggressively works alongside list boss Brady Rawlings to add more mature talent to the existing playing group.

But Tucker is believed to have been on Rawlings’ radar before Clarkson was appointed.

St Kilda’s Ben Long, who has since nominated Gold Coast, Hunter Clark and Bradley Hill, as well as wantaway Giant Tanner Bruhn, have all met with or been linked with North Melbourne since the season ended.

Bruhn is yet to officially declare his preference but is leaning towards Geelong, while there have been no developments with Clark in the past fortnight.

Hill is contracted until 2025 at the Saints but played in the Hawks’ flag three-peat from 2013-15 under Clarkson, so it is a situation to monitor.

If the Roos and Dockers are unable to agree on a suitable trade deal over Logue, North could follow in Carlton’s footsteps on Jack Martin and try to land the 24-year-old in the pre-season draft.

It would mean North, which has asked the AFL for a suite of draft picks as part of an assistance package, would not have to cough up a draft pick to secure Logue.

The Kangaroos have only one pick inside the first 50 selections, however they are expected to receive at least one pick at the end of the first round, plus additional list spots, from the league.

Carlton picked up Martin for nothing the same way from Gold Coast three years ago, after the Suns and Blues were unable to agree on a trade.

Johannisen is firming to stay a Bulldog​

Saint Ben Long’s decision to request a trade to Gold Coast on a four-year deal means 2016 Norm Smith medallist Jason Johannisen is firming to stay a Bulldog.

Johannisen, who turns 30 in November, was among the Suns’ options to replace injured half-back trio Lachie Weller, Wil Powell and Connor Budarick, who are all recovering from ACL tears.

He was keen for a three-year deal at Gold Coast but is no longer a priority for the Suns since Long’s commitment fills that defensive need.

The Dogs are understood to have presented Johannisen with a two-year offer that may now be his best option as negotiations continue.

 

[benbanjo]

You have no idea


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He isn't a spud. He is a good solid footballer. Pushed out of his best position at the lions. Works hard, strong mark and great left peg. He isn't a superstar but we don't need that. Just a solid contributor alongside souva.... look how far Coll have got with a similar type of player in mio


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We have another Shitmen lover here.

 

[buttox]

AFL trade news: Dan McStay, Lloyd Meek, Jack Crisp, and the latest whispers​

As the Brisbane Lions lick their wounds after a Preliminary Final mauling, coach Chris Fagan has addressed the Dan McStay trade issue.

Glenn McFarlane and Marc McGowan

Brisbane coach Chris Fagan is all but resigned to losing Collingwood-bound Daniel McStay in free agency despite him not revealing his intentions yet.
The Lions’ season came to a crashing halt at Geelong’s hands on Friday night in a 71-point preliminary final demolition that illustrated the improvement they still need to make.

Brisbane will get a significant boost next year with likely No.1 selection Will Ashcroft to join a midfield that could also boast Bulldog Josh Dunkley – but Fagan refused to comment on Dunkley’s status.

On the sixth-year coach’s logic on McStay, one of Brisbane or Port Adelaide can expect to lure Dunkley out of the Kennel.

“I don’t know (what McStay is doing), because Dan hasn’t told me,” Fagan said.

“But I would suspect if he was going to be a Brisbane player next year, we would know that by now.

“So, if Collingwood is the club, then Collingwood is the club – that wouldn’t surprise me – but we haven’t had that conversation.”
Fagan deferred a question about Dunkley to his list management team, saying he was “not prepared to comment about potential trades from other clubs”.

The Lions were competitive enough in the first quarter on Friday night but a trend of not being able to solve the Cats’ defensive riddle had already begun.

Fagan was yet to address his players when he spoke to the media but expected the post-mortem to be a mixture of optimism about the strides they made in 2022 versus the preliminary final “disappointment”.

“There have been a lot of good things that have happened this year,” he said.

“(Friday night) wasn’t one of them, so we shouldn’t not talk about those things.

“But we should also talk about the learnings we get from playing against a great side like Geelong, which just played a brilliant finals game tonight and looks in great shape for next week.”

Which Vic clubs are into big Docker?​

Greater Western Sydney is not one of the clubs chasing Fremantle ruckman Lloyd Meek.

Meek is caught in the Luke Jackson trade crossfire, given he has already struggled for regular senior opportunities with Sean Darcy the resident No.1 big man and Rory Lobb as forward-ruck.

Jackson is yet to specify whether he wants to be a Docker or Eagle but the strong suspicion is he will make his way to Fremantle eventually.

But Lobb’s trade request to the Western Bulldogs — even though the Dockers are standing firm they won’t trade him now Griffin Logue is leaving — and Meek being contracted until the end of next year are complicating factors.

If Lobb is to leave and Jackson lands at Freo, the Dockers still might prefer to have Meek as depth in case of injury to Darcy or Jackson because there are no other ruckmen on the list.

West Coast, which remains in the Jackson race, is understood to be one club keen to bring in Meek as it considers life after 32-year-old Nic Naitanui, who just re-signed for two years.

Melbourne is also an option, given it will lose Jackson to Fremantle and has little ruck depth behind Max Gawn, even with Collingwood’s Brodie Grundy expected to be in red and blue in 2023.

But Meek won’t be at the Giants, who already have Braydon Preuss, Matt Flynn and Kieren Briggs and may bring in Tiger Ivan Soldo as part of the potential package for Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper.

CRISP TO BE REWARDED WITH LONG-TERM PIES DEAL​

Jack Crisp’s extraordinary rise from hard-running half-back to a powerful midfield force is likely to be rewarded with a new long-term deal in the months after Collingwood’s 2022 trade/free agency period.

While the Magpies have yet to start serious negotiations with Crisp as they work through more immediate list management issues, Crisp’s manager Anthony McConville is keen to kick-start the dialogue after next month’s trade period.

Crisp, who turns 29 next month, still has one more year to run on the five-year deal he inked in early 2019.

In the years since he has elevated his game to a new level, winning last year’s Copeland Trophy and he remains one of the favourites to make it back-to-back best and fairests.

“He’s contracted until the end of next year, so I would imagine once we get past (the) trade (period) and when the club sees its salary cap position, those conversations will come,” McConville, from Macs Sports Promotions, told Moneyball.

“He has just been such a consistent player so I am sure common sense will prevail.”

Crisp hasn’t missed a Collingwood game since joining the club in late 2014.

He was included in the deal that saw Brisbane secure Dayne Beams, with the Magpies getting Crisp, pick 5 (drafting Jordan De Goey) and pick 25 (traded to North Melbourne for Levi Greenwood).

The Magpies have offered restricted free agent De Goey a four-year $3.2 million contract — with some behaviour clauses — as they look to stave off interest from a cashed-up St Kilda.

Collingwood will have a busy trade and free agency period with a number of players expected to join the club in 2023.

Lions forward Dan McStay is certain to be in black and white next season, as is GWS small forward Bobby Hill.

Adelaide’s Billy Frampton and Gold Coast’s Brayden Fiorini are keen to join the Magpies, while Hawk Tom Mitchell has been linked to a number of clubs, including Collingwood.

Will Bombers move on possession magnet?​

Essendon will not make a move on former Hawthorn and Collingwood wingman Tom Phillips for next season.

Phillips was linked to the Bombers to help add some depth to their outside midfield options, but the club is not prepared to add him to the list under a new coach for 2023.

Phillips played four games for the Hawks this year after 22 last season but the club was keen to head in a more youthful direction under Sam Mitchell.

The wingman, who is 26, could still play at the top level for several more years if he is given the opportunity.

Phillips is renowned for his hard run and ability to win high possession numbers but he was moved on from Collingwood as part of the 2020 salary cap cleanse.

Essendon has spoken to ex-Blue Liam Stocker but there are no guarantees the hard nut defender will receive an AFL lifeline for next season after four years at Carlton.

Blues’ midfielder Will Setterfield is also looking for a new opportunity, while Paddy Dow could also be tempted after a dominant year in the VFL.

Essendon will zero in on young talent and is intent on keeping its top draft pick to pick up another elite young talents after adding Nik Cox, Zach Reid, Archie Perkins and Ben Hobbs over the past two drafts.

Win or lose! Former Bomber expected at The Hangar​

Essendon premiership player Dean Solomon seems certain to be at Tullamarine next season, regardless of whether he wins the race to become the club’s senior coach or not.

Solomon, 43, pitched for the club’s senior coaching job on Wednesday along with three other candidates, including his close friend and former teammate James Hird.

Even before Ben Rutten was sacked as coach, the highly-rated Solomon was approached about potentially playing a role in the Bombers’ football department next season.

Solomon could be offered a long-term deal working within the club in what would be a welcome return for the much-loved 2000 premiership hardman.

He was a long-time assistant coach at Gold Coast and filled in as caretaker coach for three games after Rodney Eade was sacked.

He lost out on the Suns’ senior job when Stuart Dew was appointed and was moved on from the Gold Coast at the end of 2020.

He took a break from coaching until he and Hird were approached by GWS caretaker Mark McVeigh mid-season to come on as part-time assistant coaches. He wants to get back into football full-time.

Logue trade might have some more meat on bone​

A second Fremantle player could be headed to North Melbourne behind Griffin Logue, with Darcy Tucker set to undergo a medical in the coming weeks.

Tucker dodged an ACL injury playing in the WAFL two weekends ago but is recovering from surgery to repair a torn meniscus in his right knee.

The Dockers used the 25-year-old in defence in recent times but it’s understood the Kangaroos see him as a midfield option who can also play on the wing and up forward.

He has struggled to cement a regular spot under Justin Longmuir and would have a clearer path to games at North Melbourne.

Tucker is yet to nominate a club, with Essendon among his other suitors, but Fremantle is willing to trade him at the right price, potentially in the same deal as Logue, who has chosen the Roos.

North’s new coach Alastair Clarkson is quickly becoming the AFL’s answer to the Pied Piper as he aggressively works alongside list boss Brady Rawlings to add more mature talent to the existing playing group.

But Tucker is believed to have been on Rawlings’ radar before Clarkson was appointed.

St Kilda’s Ben Long, who has since nominated Gold Coast, Hunter Clark and Bradley Hill, as well as wantaway Giant Tanner Bruhn, have all met with or been linked with North Melbourne since the season ended.

Bruhn is yet to officially declare his preference but is leaning towards Geelong, while there have been no developments with Clark in the past fortnight.

Hill is contracted until 2025 at the Saints but played in the Hawks’ flag three-peat from 2013-15 under Clarkson, so it is a situation to monitor.

If the Roos and Dockers are unable to agree on a suitable trade deal over Logue, North could follow in Carlton’s footsteps on Jack Martin and try to land the 24-year-old in the pre-season draft.

It would mean North, which has asked the AFL for a suite of draft picks as part of an assistance package, would not have to cough up a draft pick to secure Logue.

The Kangaroos have only one pick inside the first 50 selections, however they are expected to receive at least one pick at the end of the first round, plus additional list spots, from the league.

Carlton picked up Martin for nothing the same way from Gold Coast three years ago, after the Suns and Blues were unable to agree on a trade.

Johannisen is firming to stay a Bulldog​

Saint Ben Long’s decision to request a trade to Gold Coast on a four-year deal means 2016 Norm Smith medallist Jason Johannisen is firming to stay a Bulldog.

Johannisen, who turns 30 in November, was among the Suns’ options to replace injured half-back trio Lachie Weller, Wil Powell and Connor Budarick, who are all recovering from ACL tears.

He was keen for a three-year deal at Gold Coast but is no longer a priority for the Suns since Long’s commitment fills that defensive need.

The Dogs are understood to have presented Johannisen with a two-year offer that may now be his best option as negotiations continue.

Thanks!

 

[Only Forwards]

We should go after Noble from Collingwood, just for the lols.

 

[Makeshift Park]

That would be a good free get for us as a stop gap CHF

Despite his limitations, mcstay has too much footy left in him to agree to be hired as a stop gap. He’ll want and get a five year contract.
Gunston for 2-3 years would be a more sensible hire.

 

[New_Roo]

We have another Shitmen lover here.

Good on you. Neither are superstars but both fit needs and are better than what we currently have.


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[Lomas]

AFL trade news: Dan McStay, Lloyd Meek, Jack Crisp, and the latest whispers​

As the Brisbane Lions lick their wounds after a Preliminary Final mauling, coach Chris Fagan has addressed the Dan McStay trade issue.

Glenn McFarlane and Marc McGowan

Brisbane coach Chris Fagan is all but resigned to losing Collingwood-bound Daniel McStay in free agency despite him not revealing his intentions yet.
The Lions’ season came to a crashing halt at Geelong’s hands on Friday night in a 71-point preliminary final demolition that illustrated the improvement they still need to make.

Brisbane will get a significant boost next year with likely No.1 selection Will Ashcroft to join a midfield that could also boast Bulldog Josh Dunkley – but Fagan refused to comment on Dunkley’s status.

On the sixth-year coach’s logic on McStay, one of Brisbane or Port Adelaide can expect to lure Dunkley out of the Kennel.

“I don’t know (what McStay is doing), because Dan hasn’t told me,” Fagan said.

“But I would suspect if he was going to be a Brisbane player next year, we would know that by now.

“So, if Collingwood is the club, then Collingwood is the club – that wouldn’t surprise me – but we haven’t had that conversation.”
Fagan deferred a question about Dunkley to his list management team, saying he was “not prepared to comment about potential trades from other clubs”.

The Lions were competitive enough in the first quarter on Friday night but a trend of not being able to solve the Cats’ defensive riddle had already begun.

Fagan was yet to address his players when he spoke to the media but expected the post-mortem to be a mixture of optimism about the strides they made in 2022 versus the preliminary final “disappointment”.

“There have been a lot of good things that have happened this year,” he said.

“(Friday night) wasn’t one of them, so we shouldn’t not talk about those things.

“But we should also talk about the learnings we get from playing against a great side like Geelong, which just played a brilliant finals game tonight and looks in great shape for next week.”

Which Vic clubs are into big Docker?​

Greater Western Sydney is not one of the clubs chasing Fremantle ruckman Lloyd Meek.

Meek is caught in the Luke Jackson trade crossfire, given he has already struggled for regular senior opportunities with Sean Darcy the resident No.1 big man and Rory Lobb as forward-ruck.

Jackson is yet to specify whether he wants to be a Docker or Eagle but the strong suspicion is he will make his way to Fremantle eventually.

But Lobb’s trade request to the Western Bulldogs — even though the Dockers are standing firm they won’t trade him now Griffin Logue is leaving — and Meek being contracted until the end of next year are complicating factors.

If Lobb is to leave and Jackson lands at Freo, the Dockers still might prefer to have Meek as depth in case of injury to Darcy or Jackson because there are no other ruckmen on the list.

West Coast, which remains in the Jackson race, is understood to be one club keen to bring in Meek as it considers life after 32-year-old Nic Naitanui, who just re-signed for two years.

Melbourne is also an option, given it will lose Jackson to Fremantle and has little ruck depth behind Max Gawn, even with Collingwood’s Brodie Grundy expected to be in red and blue in 2023.

But Meek won’t be at the Giants, who already have Braydon Preuss, Matt Flynn and Kieren Briggs and may bring in Tiger Ivan Soldo as part of the potential package for Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper.

CRISP TO BE REWARDED WITH LONG-TERM PIES DEAL​

Jack Crisp’s extraordinary rise from hard-running half-back to a powerful midfield force is likely to be rewarded with a new long-term deal in the months after Collingwood’s 2022 trade/free agency period.

While the Magpies have yet to start serious negotiations with Crisp as they work through more immediate list management issues, Crisp’s manager Anthony McConville is keen to kick-start the dialogue after next month’s trade period.

Crisp, who turns 29 next month, still has one more year to run on the five-year deal he inked in early 2019.

In the years since he has elevated his game to a new level, winning last year’s Copeland Trophy and he remains one of the favourites to make it back-to-back best and fairests.

“He’s contracted until the end of next year, so I would imagine once we get past (the) trade (period) and when the club sees its salary cap position, those conversations will come,” McConville, from Macs Sports Promotions, told Moneyball.

“He has just been such a consistent player so I am sure common sense will prevail.”

Crisp hasn’t missed a Collingwood game since joining the club in late 2014.

He was included in the deal that saw Brisbane secure Dayne Beams, with the Magpies getting Crisp, pick 5 (drafting Jordan De Goey) and pick 25 (traded to North Melbourne for Levi Greenwood).

The Magpies have offered restricted free agent De Goey a four-year $3.2 million contract — with some behaviour clauses — as they look to stave off interest from a cashed-up St Kilda.

Collingwood will have a busy trade and free agency period with a number of players expected to join the club in 2023.

Lions forward Dan McStay is certain to be in black and white next season, as is GWS small forward Bobby Hill.

Adelaide’s Billy Frampton and Gold Coast’s Brayden Fiorini are keen to join the Magpies, while Hawk Tom Mitchell has been linked to a number of clubs, including Collingwood.

Will Bombers move on possession magnet?​

Essendon will not make a move on former Hawthorn and Collingwood wingman Tom Phillips for next season.

Phillips was linked to the Bombers to help add some depth to their outside midfield options, but the club is not prepared to add him to the list under a new coach for 2023.

Phillips played four games for the Hawks this year after 22 last season but the club was keen to head in a more youthful direction under Sam Mitchell.

The wingman, who is 26, could still play at the top level for several more years if he is given the opportunity.

Phillips is renowned for his hard run and ability to win high possession numbers but he was moved on from Collingwood as part of the 2020 salary cap cleanse.

Essendon has spoken to ex-Blue Liam Stocker but there are no guarantees the hard nut defender will receive an AFL lifeline for next season after four years at Carlton.

Blues’ midfielder Will Setterfield is also looking for a new opportunity, while Paddy Dow could also be tempted after a dominant year in the VFL.

Essendon will zero in on young talent and is intent on keeping its top draft pick to pick up another elite young talents after adding Nik Cox, Zach Reid, Archie Perkins and Ben Hobbs over the past two drafts.

Win or lose! Former Bomber expected at The Hangar​

Essendon premiership player Dean Solomon seems certain to be at Tullamarine next season, regardless of whether he wins the race to become the club’s senior coach or not.

Solomon, 43, pitched for the club’s senior coaching job on Wednesday along with three other candidates, including his close friend and former teammate James Hird.

Even before Ben Rutten was sacked as coach, the highly-rated Solomon was approached about potentially playing a role in the Bombers’ football department next season.

Solomon could be offered a long-term deal working within the club in what would be a welcome return for the much-loved 2000 premiership hardman.

He was a long-time assistant coach at Gold Coast and filled in as caretaker coach for three games after Rodney Eade was sacked.

He lost out on the Suns’ senior job when Stuart Dew was appointed and was moved on from the Gold Coast at the end of 2020.

He took a break from coaching until he and Hird were approached by GWS caretaker Mark McVeigh mid-season to come on as part-time assistant coaches. He wants to get back into football full-time.

Logue trade might have some more meat on bone​

A second Fremantle player could be headed to North Melbourne behind Griffin Logue, with Darcy Tucker set to undergo a medical in the coming weeks.

Tucker dodged an ACL injury playing in the WAFL two weekends ago but is recovering from surgery to repair a torn meniscus in his right knee.

The Dockers used the 25-year-old in defence in recent times but it’s understood the Kangaroos see him as a midfield option who can also play on the wing and up forward.

He has struggled to cement a regular spot under Justin Longmuir and would have a clearer path to games at North Melbourne.

Tucker is yet to nominate a club, with Essendon among his other suitors, but Fremantle is willing to trade him at the right price, potentially in the same deal as Logue, who has chosen the Roos.

North’s new coach Alastair Clarkson is quickly becoming the AFL’s answer to the Pied Piper as he aggressively works alongside list boss Brady Rawlings to add more mature talent to the existing playing group.

But Tucker is believed to have been on Rawlings’ radar before Clarkson was appointed.

St Kilda’s Ben Long, who has since nominated Gold Coast, Hunter Clark and Bradley Hill, as well as wantaway Giant Tanner Bruhn, have all met with or been linked with North Melbourne since the season ended.

Bruhn is yet to officially declare his preference but is leaning towards Geelong, while there have been no developments with Clark in the past fortnight.

Hill is contracted until 2025 at the Saints but played in the Hawks’ flag three-peat from 2013-15 under Clarkson, so it is a situation to monitor.

If the Roos and Dockers are unable to agree on a suitable trade deal over Logue, North could follow in Carlton’s footsteps on Jack Martin and try to land the 24-year-old in the pre-season draft.

It would mean North, which has asked the AFL for a suite of draft picks as part of an assistance package, would not have to cough up a draft pick to secure Logue.

The Kangaroos have only one pick inside the first 50 selections, however they are expected to receive at least one pick at the end of the first round, plus additional list spots, from the league.

Carlton picked up Martin for nothing the same way from Gold Coast three years ago, after the Suns and Blues were unable to agree on a trade.

Johannisen is firming to stay a Bulldog​

Saint Ben Long’s decision to request a trade to Gold Coast on a four-year deal means 2016 Norm Smith medallist Jason Johannisen is firming to stay a Bulldog.

Johannisen, who turns 30 in November, was among the Suns’ options to replace injured half-back trio Lachie Weller, Wil Powell and Connor Budarick, who are all recovering from ACL tears.

He was keen for a three-year deal at Gold Coast but is no longer a priority for the Suns since Long’s commitment fills that defensive need.

The Dogs are understood to have presented Johannisen with a two-year offer that may now be his best option as negotiations continue.

Solomon going to * regardless pretty much says he won't be coach. Jimmy with his * dream team again.

 

[BlueandWhiteinmyBlood]

There's a kid by the name of Zac Foot, who plays for Southport. He has serious speed and is very good, around goals. He's only 21 and played 2 games for Sydney, in 2020. I like the way he goes about it. Thoughts?

He is a good footballer but just one of those footballers who can never take the next step. Will be a gun at VFL for years.

I’m also a yes for Bedford! He is going to be a playa!

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

The last 15-20 pages could be mistaken for pages 2 years ago when a certain spud from Gold Coast was getting people incensed.

That same guy kicked 53 goals this year and came 7th or so in the Coleman.

People on here criminally over and underrate both our own and opposition players. The funny thing that happens each year, like clockwork.

 

[buttox]

The last 15-20 pages could be mistaken for pages 2 years ago when a certain spud from Gold Coast was getting people incensed.

That same guy kicked 53 goals this year and came 7th or so in the Coleman.

People on here criminally over and underrate both our own and opposition players. The funny thing that happens each year, like clockwork.

Radroos only good call ever.
2 meter Peter.
I wish we had got him.

 

[shinboner magic]

One more week and we become kings of the off season

 

[Kangaroos techno]

Getting McStay would be like adding another Walker albeit with a better hairline. No thanks. Way overpriced for a stop gap.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

Peter Wright was a strange case because he was on 500k a year as GC was blowing out their cap to keep players (same reason they lost Brodie and eventually will drop Fiorini for chips on huge coin). The Bombers gave him an extra year on an existing two year deal. He had a good year though, for a team not near finals.

 

[New_Roo]

He is a good footballer but just one of those footballers who can never take the next step. Will be a gun at VFL for years.

I’m also a yes for Bedford! He is going to be a playa!

Mmm looks like you love shitmen too, beware of the banjo


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[Lomas]

Mmm looks like you love shitmen too, beware of the banjo


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Yes, Deliverance taught us that at least.

 

[for3sh0ck]

McStay, McNo thanks. Would rather have my McFace ripped off by machinery

 

[Lomas]

McStay, McNo thanks. Would rather have my McFace ripped off by machinery

Not McLovin it?

 

[Agenda 21]

He is a good footballer but just one of those footballers who can never take the next step. Will be a gun at VFL for years.

I’m also a yes for Bedford! He is going to be a playa!

He's played 2 senior AFL games, as a 19 year old, in a hub period. How is that enough evidence to say that he can never take the next step, at the top level? He's maturing, dominating VFL finals (against AFL listed players) and will be looked at by clubs, guaranteed. Even as a rookie. I've probably put the jinx on him for the VFL granny, but my point still stands.

 

[Pagans Paddock99]

GC traded Will Brodie

23

Will Brodie

Age

27

Ht

190cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.0

5star

K

8.2

3star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

4.0

1star

HB

10.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

2star

CL

3.0

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

5.4

5star

CL

2.8

5star

and pick 19 for Freo’s future second (pick #31) in a salary dump last year.

Reportedly looking to do the same this year. Coupled with the need to reduce their list spots at the end of their assistance package and having 5 picks inside the first two rounds, they might be in the market for using these picks to persuade others to alleviate their salary cap issues?

Apparently Fiorini the latest in the gun who has averaged 35+ disposals in the VFL this year.

What deal could we swing to cash in?

Fiorini & GC pick #25 for our future 3rd?

GC pick #25, pick #31 & Fiorini for our pick #19 or future second?

This would give us the picks required to improve negotiations in trades?




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[Shinboner1]

Unpopular opinion but I reckon Lloyd Meek would be fantastic for us.
Pretty decent up forward and great as a 2nd ruck.

 

[Dodecahedron]

So McStay has packed his McLuggage eh?

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Unpopular opinion but I reckon Lloyd Meek would be fantastic for us.
Pretty decent up forward and great as a 2nd ruck.

Not unpopular. He is a good footballer and has played well when given the chance. Absolutely dominant at WAFL level and finally has a mature body.

I’m pretty confident he’ll end up a better ruck than either CCJ or Xerri and I’d happily offload one of them to get Meek.

 

[marklovesbeer]

Clarke would be good

I can’t believe he’s going to play in a Grand Final this week.